Ren'Py Her Fall [Ch. 8.0] [TwizSin]

[Erick101]

Here you go! I just went back and made this version for you. I also ran a quick test to make sure everything was working properly. Damn there were so many tips and tricks I have learned over the last 2 weeks. I just finished chapter 4 on my patreon. So going back and looking at some of these animations and renders hurts me with how much I just didn't know. Just an FYI chapter 3's free version goes live in 9 days. You will definitely see a big boost in quality going from chapter 2 to chapter 3. But anyways here is a pixeldrain link of chapter 2 for Android.

I appreciate your work Thank you

 

[kokom]

hmm

 

[TwiztidSinX]

I am currently uploading chapter 3, to the same 5 sites that chapter 2 was uploaded to. Again like before if someone requests an Android version I will make it. But until then I am currently uploading the pc and mac versions. after the uploads finish I will update the main post with the new links and updated information. So I will be releasing it a bit early again like the last release.

 

[PrinceCydon]

I am curious what do you consider NTR? Would you consider it NTR if you are a male main character and you are cheating on your girlfriend? If not then would it not go to the same logic that if you are playing a female main character and you are cheating on your boyfriend that that is also not NTR? Not being a dick or anything I am actually curious what the common held definition would be. I mean to me NTR is cuckolding which is like when you follow a dude that has a small dick who gets off to having his gf/wife getting fucked by some dude with a big dick. To that definition there is no NTR in this game and there will not be.

This is exactly what NTR is, but some people can't handle seeing any female character having sex with any male other than the one they identify with. It's very silly, but we're all here playing porn games so some maladjustment is to be expected, XD It's also interesting how they automatically seem to identify with the characters getting cheated on by the girl, but that's straying a little too close to armchair therapy for an adult pirate site.

Just keep doing your thing and making the game you want. The anti-NTR folk are never happy unless they're playing a male MC game where all the female characters fall in love with the MC and talk about how amazing he is and every other guy in the game is a piece of shit that the MC has to save scores of women from. With a game like this, it's not worth trying to please them. You never will.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

I am curious what do you consider NTR? Would you consider it NTR if you are a male main character and you are cheating on your girlfriend? If not then would it not go to the same logic that if you are playing a female main character and you are cheating on your boyfriend that that is also not NTR? Not being a dick or anything I am actually curious what the common held definition would be. I mean to me NTR is cuckolding which is like when you follow a dude that has a small dick who gets off to having his gf/wife getting fucked by some dude with a big dick. To that definition there is no NTR in this game and there will not be. As I said in previous posts it is more a story about corruption and lust. The order of events based on the chapters I have planned out is:

Chapter 1: Masaki gets raped by Kishimoto, He did not realize she was a virgin and he did was reading the signs wrong. Before the end of the night Masaki gets into in and starts worrying about pleasing him properly. (Beginning of corruption and lust.

Chapter 2 Masaki finally goes on her first real date with Ryou as he came to town to visit her. Kishimoto feels bad for what he did to Ryou and tries to set Ryou up to finally get laid. Instead Ryou allows Misaki to leave and ends the date. Kishimoto decides to offer another night with Misaki.

Imma be real I just typed out the main plot of chapters 1-7 and then realized how much of a bad idea that would be since why would people want to play it if everything is spoiled in advanced. So I deleted it. Side note chapter 3 is coming along nicely currently around 50-60% done with it with 300renders and 35 animations done so far though I just started an Onsen sex scene that will be adding a bunch more animations.

Aight, I'm just going to mostly gloss over the differences between intentional cheating and netorare (stealing) because I don't feel like getting into a discussion about the nuances of the Japanese alphabet.
In classical Japanese nonsense a man being stolen away from his girl isn't netorare, it's reverse netorare.
A woman being stolen away from her boyfriend is netorare regardless of whether the story is told from the victim or the heroine's perspective. That's well established in doujinshi, but a little more controversial in AVNs where perspective is much more integral to the story telling. For anyone saying that cheating FMC isn't netorare according to this site's tag definitions I suggest you look at this 8 page list of games on this site not following the strict wording of that rule.
The exact same story from the bull's perspective is netori.

Now for my question, are we going to at some point be forced to make decisions for the male victim character? I like FMC NTR but I don't like playing as the male cuck so I'm just asking now for clarity.

 

[TwiztidSinX]

This is exactly what NTR is, but some people can't handle seeing any female character having sex with any male other than the one they identify with. It's very silly, but we're all here playing porn games so some maladjustment is to be expected, XD It's also interesting how they automatically seem to identify with the characters getting cheated on by the girl, but that's straying a little too close to armchair therapy for an adult pirate site.

Just keep doing your thing and making the game you want. The anti-NTR folk are never happy unless they're playing a male MC game where all the female characters fall in love with the MC and talk about how amazing he is and every other guy in the game is a piece of shit that the MC has to save scores of women from. With a game like this, it's not worth trying to please them. You never will.

The worst comment I have had so far is from the itch.io page. Because I have been doing daily dev logs on there letting people keep up with how the story is going. In one of my logs I mentioned that I am currently unemployed, and looking for a new job so the updates of this game will probably slow down when I get back to work. The comment was this "Who could have guessed that the cuck who made this game is unemployed. Keep adding more guys thats totally what people want"

I was just like motherfucker are you fucking kidding me? Calling me a Cuck? I literally stated multiple times I am not the author of this, I choose a doujin that had multiple parts, that the girls looked attractive, and that had an open ending. Those were my requirements so that I could follow the story through the canon parts then by the time I reached the end of what was canon I could add my own stuff and change it as I see fit. He was commenting on chapter 2, It is all canon until the end of chapter 5, I am currently working on the first non-canon original chapter. Not only that when it comes to real life I have never been cucked or cheated on. Though I have broke up with a chick she got with a new dude a week later, called me said he was better in bed, I then talked her into meeting up with me while he was at work, and fucked her in his bed. Only happened once but that still would make me the person doing the cucking not the cuck. When I have been creating this story I have been seeing myself as the Kishimoto character, which is why I have been telling people to play through like you are kishimoto and dont put yourself in ryous shoes. But that is all over by chapter 6 as what I am writing now Ryou has fully joined up with Kishimotos crew and is now a part of everything. So idk no harm no foul? But then again that chapter has awhile yet before it goes live on f95. It will be live on patreon for the 10$ tier in 2 weeks though. when that one goes live there, chapter 4 goes live here.

 

[yilkin]

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[TwiztidSinX]

Aight, I'm just going to mostly gloss over the differences between intentional cheating and netorare (stealing) because I don't feel like getting into a discussion about the nuances of the Japanese alphabet.
In classical Japanese nonsense a man being stolen away from his girl isn't netorare, it's reverse netorare.
A woman being stolen away from her boyfriend is netorare regardless of whether the story is told from the victim or the heroine's perspective. That's well established in doujinshi, but a little more controversial in AVNs where perspective is much more integral to the story telling. For anyone saying that cheating FMC isn't netorare according to this site's tag definitions I suggest you look at this 8 page list of games on this site not following the strict wording of that rule.
The exact same story from the bull's perspective is netori.

Now for my question, are we going to at some point be forced to make decisions for the male victim character? I like FMC NTR but I don't like playing as the male cuck so I'm just asking now for clarity.

No. I will drop some tidbits from future chapters, I have done it before so I dont see the harm in it. I will try my best not to give too much away though. In chapter 3 you follow ryou for a little bit towards the end. As he cheats on Misaki with Kashi (Kishimoto's girlfriend) Kishimoto is the black haired kid in the images. Essentially what is happening is in chapter 1 Kishimoto thought that Misaki was an easy hoe, he did not know she was a virgin, after he had already taken her virginity he felt like shit but said fuck it we have started lets finish, in chapter 2 Kishimoto tries to set it up so that Ryou gets to have sex with misaki but ryou again pusses out, so that brings us to chapter 3 where kishimoto hatches a new plan this time to not only get Ryou laid, but to also get Ryou to pay him back for what he did so he stops feeling so guilty, so he has his girlfriend Kashi seduce Ryou, and fuck him. He finally breaks Misaki. You learn about the existence of a secret club called The Circle, which Kishimoto is the leader of. His entire plan from the beginning was to recruit more girls to the Circle. Where a bunch of rich dudes fuck chicks and creampie them everynight after work. You get a glimpse of the Circle during the last bit of chapter 3.

I go over plot points for stuff that is not released yet, do not read it you want to avoid spoilers..

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I have also toyed around with the idea of Misaki and Ryou going to a swingers club where she could meet the Americans again and Ryou could join in this time. But that all comes down to polls on Discord since I want community feedback I want players to feel like they have a say and their opinion matters while playing this game.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

No. I will drop some tidbits from future chapters, I have done it before so I dont see the harm in it. I will try my best not to give too much away though. In chapter 3 you follow ryou for a little bit towards the end. As he cheats on Misaki with Kashi (Kishimoto's girlfriend) Kishimoto is the black haired kid in the images. Essentially what is happening is in chapter 1 Kishimoto thought that Misaki was an easy hoe, he did not know she was a virgin, after he had already taken her virginity he felt like shit but said fuck it we have started lets finish, in chapter 2 Kishimoto tries to set it up so that Ryou gets to have sex with misaki but ryou again pusses out, so that brings us to chapter 3 where kishimoto hatches a new plan this time to not only get Ryou laid, but to also get Ryou to pay him back for what he did so he stops feeling so guilty, so he has his girlfriend Kashi seduce Ryou, and fuck him. He finally breaks Misaki. You learn about the existence of a secret club called The Circle, which Kishimoto is the leader of. His entire plan from the beginning was to recruit more girls to the Circle. Where a bunch of rich dudes fuck chicks and creampie them everynight after work. You get a glimpse of the Circle during the last bit of chapter 3.

I go over plot points for stuff that is not released yet, do not read it you want to avoid spoilers..

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I have also toyed around with the idea of Misaki and Ryou going to a swingers club where she could meet the Americans again and Ryou could join in this time. But that all comes down to polls on Discord since I want community feedback I want players to feel like they have a say and their opinion matters while playing this game.

Aight I'm not completely sure if that's my thing, but it kinda sounds hilarious enough that I'll check it out anyway. Thanks for letting me know

 

[molitar]

umm.. how do you have cheating and swinging? swinging isn't cheating because it's agreed upon by both sides.

 

[TwiztidSinX]

umm.. how do you have cheating and swinging? swinging isn't cheating because it's agreed upon by both sides.

Well mainly swinging will come up later... But yea... In chapter 3 they are both cheating on each other.

 

[shuji-n]

I love NTR games and doujinshi!

 

[emreiccc]

Is this an adaptation of DASHIMAKITAMAGO's hentai series? The character design and names and the story are very similar.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

umm.. how do you have cheating and swinging? swinging isn't cheating because it's agreed upon by both sides.

Cheating can lead to swinging and swinging can lead to cheating. The NTR to NTRS pipeline and the NTRS to NTR pipeline are both very real things.

 

[Bearjkk]

compressed pls?

 

[Letstryitout]

I swear we have more NTR games with Koikatsu in just 2 years than the whole Honey Select in 7 years. It feels like Koikatsu is reserved for NTR while Honey Select is reserved for more vanilla stuff, just making a point.

 

[TwiztidSinX]

Is this an adaptation of DASHIMAKITAMAGO's hentai series? The character design and names and the story are very similar.

It is based off if it yes, but I have been changing bits here and there, and I am continuing it past where the Doujin ends. If you liked that story you should love this one.

 

[TwiztidSinX]

I swear we have more NTR games with Koikatsu in just 2 years than the whole Honey Select in 7 years. It feels like Koikatsu is reserved for NTR while Honey Select is reserved for more vanilla stuff, just making a point.

I actually only choose Koikatsu because I thought the characters looked better, I have KKP, KKS, HS1, and HS2. I literally could have picked any of the studios to make the game in. I just made the Misaki character in all 4 studios and decided I liked how she looked in Koikatsu the best. Though I have been debating using HS2 for whatever my next game is though I have no idea what it will be about yet. Since I plan on continuing this story for at least 10 total chapters.

compressed pls?

All of my uploads are already compressed before I release them. I have been compressing as I go so that someone else didn't have to do it for me. Well compressing as in converting the files to webm and webp file format since that format compresses the files a fair bit and is the standard people convert to when they are compressing Ren'Py games. I also lower the quality from 4k down to 1080p, to help with file sizes for people. Though at some point I wouldn't mind releasing the 4k png renders and mp4 animations.

 

[kgirlffx]

Bold putting a learning project up for other people to see. Don't take anything folks say too much to hear.

Seems like you're getting the basics down well. Just some advice, if you have any kind of stat tracking, make sure it's solid now, if you try to change it later it's a pain in the ass.

Go slow. New developers often want to rush and they end up with bad and difficult code that tanks their projects.

 

[TwiztidSinX]

Bold putting a learning project up for other people to see. Don't take anything folks say too much to hear.

Seems like you're getting the basics down well. Just some advice, if you have any kind of stat tracking, make sure it's solid now, if you try to change it later it's a pain in the ass.

Go slow. New developers often want to rush and they end up with bad and difficult code that tanks their projects.

Since I am so new to this, like this isnt just a learning project it is my first ever project. I mean I used to code NPCs and stuff for ragnarok online 15+ years ago in c++ but that doesnt seem to have much use here. As for stat checkers, this story at the moment is completely kinetic I may go back later and change some stuff and add choices and extra routes and all that once I learn how to do that kinda thing. I still need to go back and rewrite all the code in chapter 1 as its horrible. Example I did not know how show worked. So I just used show for everything in chapter 1 and half of chapter 2 before my pc started lagging. Thats when I learned how scene worked. I then went back and just sprinkled scene throughout chapter 1 and chapter 2 every 10 images or so. But I need to get around to going back and fixing it. Hell in chapter 1 I didn't even know that you could have show/scene command on the same line as the image name or that the with fade/dissolve could be on the same line. Thats why I put in a changelog that chapter 1 could easily be brought down from 1000+ lines down to 5-600. Just havent gotten around to it. I think I will do it before I finish chapter 6s release though. Since I have been able to complete a chapter in 8 or 9 days. Since I have 14 days to finish chapter 6 I have the time to go back and recode chapters 1 and 2 and maybe get some of the renders and animations from the first 2 chapters up to the quality that chapters 4 and 5 are at. Just never decided if I wanted to push through to chapter 10 then take a big break from new content and just go back and fix any errors I made in the earlier days.