Trono-10

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from my perspective Mars could never love or have any affection AT ALL towards Erin

I've never saw Mars as a person capable of loving anyone

At every choice and input i could have, i would choose only to use the girls as masturbators/fuck toys and nothing more, because that's what i felt it was the best course from Mars' storyline since the beginning. I hate everytime they throw affection into his persona, i don't think it fits at all, i just ignore it, pretend it didn't happen and kept on.
In any fiction there is a part that isn't written; a part that only exists in the spectator's head. If you choose to have it as your head canon that Mars is a ruthless sex monster then that's your version of the story and it's fine.

It's clearly been shown that Mars is not a sex monster incapable of affection; his relationship with Vi is testament enough of that. It's just that this is the one thing he's been formed to do and one he's extremely good at. But after so long ruining lives he's grown sick and tired of it.

Maybe in a future path you can push him towards more of an unfeeling tyrant but as far as the story goes, he's doing a job he's grown to dislike, because he knows the ending is never pretty and he doesn't want that.
 
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How can an art be so godlike and sometimes also rough? There's definitely issues with lighting and coloring in some scenes. There's also issues with proportions of the human body in some characters.

Unfortunately, Mars suffers the most from this in various scenes, it is a bit jarring noticing the differences when say you watch scenes of him with Cecille and then scenes of him with Sera back to back for example. I've made this comment before but he can go from pale-ish, to tan, to outright black.

With Yvet and Odette, Mars is dark-skinned. With Sera, he at best has a beach tan. It might be just contrast. There's also proportions. Not only Mars but Cecille and Sera don't seem to have quite consistent body sizes (especially when we're talking bust for Cecille, everything else for Sera) or perhaps it is the artist's trying different perspectives/povs which is giving this impression.

Cecille is immune to lighting and coloring issues at least. In fact, she's got the best art in the game and the least issues. This is just a comment, I don't really expect Nitrolith to redraw a significant part of the game's art just because a few shades of lighting in a few scenes are brighter or darker.
 

GreenBlue

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How can an art be so godlike and sometimes also rough? There's definitely issues with lighting and coloring in some scenes. There's also issues with proportions of the human body in some characters.

Unfortunately, Mars suffers the most from this in various scenes, it is a bit jarring noticing the differences when say you watch scenes of him with Cecille and then scenes of him with Sera back to back for example. I've made this comment before but he can go from pale-ish, to tan, to outright black.

With Yvet and Odette, Mars is dark-skinned. With Sera, he at best has a beach tan. It might be just contrast. There's also proportions. Not only Mars but Cecille and Sera don't seem to have quite consistent body sizes (especially when we're talking bust for Cecille, everything else for Sera) or perhaps it is the artist's trying different perspectives/povs which is giving this impression.

Cecille is immune to lighting and coloring issues at least. In fact, she's got the best art in the game and the least issues. This is just a comment, I don't really expect Nitrolith to redraw a significant part of the game's art just because a few shades of lighting in a few scenes are brighter or darker.
I was a body proportion nazi too. But I started to respect and like art like this. It gives it a lot of character and uniqueness. I know it's a stupid defense. But ill probably recognize them anywhere. "Oh this art was done by that guy, what's his name Nitro-something?"
And I like that is pixelated, It probably takes less time to do a frame compared with full photoshop art. Ergo more frames/art. And it does the job nearly the same.
Still, there is scenes with Elena where I thought she has a scar on her face, but it was her hair lol.
 
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I was a body proportion nazi too. But I started to respect and like art like this art. It gives it a lot of character and uniqueness. I know it's a stupid defense. But ill probably recognize them anywhere. "Oh this art was done by that guy, what's his name Nitro-something?"
And I like that is pixelated, It probably takes less time to do a frame compared with full photoshop art. Ergo more frames/art. And it does the job nearly the same.
Still, there is scenes with Elena where I thought she has a scar on her face, but it was her hair lol.
Same, it kind of grows on you. It is exactly because some of those oddities and slight issues are so recognizable that you can just immediately recognize it. It has its charm, somehow.

Despite the character and plot being so good, this game wouldn't be so great without its art and all its quirkiness.
 
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GreenBlue

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Same, it kind of grows on you. It is exactly because some of those oddities and slight issues are so recognizable that you can just immediately recognize it. It has its charm, somehow.

Despite the character and plot being so good, this game wouldn't be so great without its art and all its quirkiness.
Yep, the strongest point of this game is the story, and the art is the second strong point, there is only one game I saw with this kind of art style, "Aurelia" the dialogue and story was not what I wanted, I wanted flowery old school DnD fantasy dialogue where instead of saying pussy, you say nether region, and dick is phallus.(I want fancy porn :D) But it's all just "fuck my pussy please" current year bullshit.

Anyways this game is in 0.1%, even NTR haters will love it.
 

Shadow Blade

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How to advance after the hero spies on them? I only get the uneventful image where they are resting in the bed. the level is above 2000000 and going to the fighting section doesn't show anything new. I need to focus in a secondnary character?
 

Sewyoba

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How to advance after the hero spies on them? I only get the uneventful image where they are resting in the bed. the level is above 2000000 and going to the fighting section doesn't show anything new. I need to focus in a secondnary character?
You have no idea how little it narrows it down, lol. Fighting section doesn't matter because it's early in development, so you can safely skip it. Go around talking to everyone, you probably need to talk to Lavinia, or yeah, advancing Sera
 

Lucas012

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Question: If all solo routes eventually lead to the duel in some form, how in the hell are new players starting from the next update supposed to achieve a harem route?
 

Lucas012

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There are no routes yet. Only activities that you have to do to advance the story or optional activities that won't change anything. It is after the duel will the game reach it's final part and will have actions determine what route Mars goes down.

I repeat nothing you do now will affect anything other than some bad endings. By the time we get route splits I am sure the game will provide a way to track affection levels or at least a cheat to change it.
I meant in the sense that you will be forced to skip all other events once you reach the final event for any character. Not to mention the fact that they would all lead to deviations in how the "duel" would happen.
 

Lucas012

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I don't understand what you mean by skipping all other events. The duel is just another story event as far as I know. Nothing you do will change anything about it.
It's mentioned in the last event for Sera (can't remember whether or not it's mentioned in the rest). I'm assuming it's the same for all of them. Besides it wouldn't make much sense for you to be able to continue with the rest of the events since they all lead to the same "duel" albeit for different reasons. And that duel would have happened if you complete the events of any character.
 

SaddamHussein

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Although i understand you since the game gives this choice of play, however from my perspective Mars could never love or have any affection AT ALL towards Erin (not that he can't, he don't wanna, he don't care about anything except power and lust), making Erin his female was the ULTIMATE way of defeating his arch enemy, he didn't just beat the Hero, Mars made Erin his submissive happy female slave. I can't imagine a better way to finish this Erin part of the story.

I've never saw Mars as a person capable of loving anyone (certainly not Erin from all ppl), he's a Demon whom only purpose is bring CHAOS to everybody, specially women.

At every choice and input i could have, i would choose only to use the girls as masturbators/fuck toys and nothing more, because that's what i felt it was the best course from Mars' storyline since the beginning. I hate everytime they throw affection into his persona, i don't think it fits at all, i just ignore it, pretend it didn't happen and kept on.

I like to think Mars' storyline is similar to Asmodeus', Asmodeus was the one who guided Sodom to its utmost degradation by fornication and lust, and he was one the first NTR historic figures.

That being said, i wish at least that when this game is finally over our decision making would change the outcome of many thins, songs included... or not, i could just change it manually as i do now...
How spastic can you be to not even read the fucking game before commenting ? Mars is not sigma chungus patric bateman and he is NOT a demon he is half breed him being half demon half human is the whole point of the fucking game's story. Mars being half breed makes him think for both humans and demons even tho neither humanity or demons want him and that creates interesting points and plot all together. If you want edgelord MC go watch some garbage isekai.
 

Mommysbuttslut

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The duel is something that has to happen for the story to continue. There is no indication that doing or not doing any characters' events will affect anything. Maybe that will change when the game is closer to completion but for now there is no routes to worry about.
Erin's path from the last update doesn't end with the challenge for the duel that Sera and Cecille's does or Elena's implies. Pretty sure it bypasses it entirely. At the very least it would make absolutely no sense given what happens in the Mars x Erin scene.
 

Mommysbuttslut

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It has been a while since I kept up with the latest news from the Discord and Patreon but the last information I remember was the duel was something that needs to happen to end this part of the story so the last part of the story will begin after the time skip. If there is news I am wrong about the duel then fine. Until I see that news, I still assuming the duel is a fixed event of the story like Mars becoming a Hero so it will happen regardless of what choices we make in order to continue the story.
Have you not played the Erin/Mars path from the latest update cycle or something? It ends with Erin begging Mars not to reject him, Mars promising to protect him, Erin thinking "holy crackers", Mars telling Erin he's his, Erin agreeing to it, Erin agreeing that it's his job to be cute and kiss Mars's ass, Erin calling mars super hot, admitting he likes Mars more than girls with big titties, Mars apologizing for what he did to him and promising Erin he'll take responsibility and take care of him, Erin offering Mars his virginity, Mars breaking Erin's chastity cage, Mars getting mad at the girls for bullying Erin and locking him in chastity, Erin confessing his love and begging Mars to marry him, Mars forbidding Erin from self deprecating, Mars promising to pamper him and finally them making love before Erin calls him darling and falls asleep in his arms.
The only way that the current Erin path leads to the duel is if Mars orders him to and I really don't think he'd risk hurting Erin further with an order like that. The duel is needed in every other path to create the conditions that happen in the current Erin path. It'd make no sense for it to happen after he's already accomplished everything he stands to gain from the duel.
 
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Nadekai

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Have you not played the Erin/Mars path from the latest update cycle or something? It ends with Erin begging Mars not to reject him, Mars promising to protect him, Erin thinking "holy crackers", Mars telling Erin he's his, Erin agreeing to it, Erin agreeing that it's his job to be cute and kiss Mars's ass, Erin calling mars super hot, admitting he likes Mars more than girls with big titties, Mars apologizing for what he did to him and promising Erin he'll take responsibility and take care of him, Erin offering Mars his virginity, Mars breaking Erin's chastity cage, Mars getting mad at the girls for bullying Erin and locking him in chastity, Erin confessing his love and begging Mars to marry him, Mars forbidding Erin from self deprecating, Mars promising to pamper him and finally them making love before Erin calls him darling and falls asleep in his arms.
The only way that the current Erin path leads to the duel is if Mars orders him to and I really don't think he'd risk hurting Erin further with an order like that. The duel is needed in every other path to create the conditions that happen in the current Erin path. It'd make no sense for it to happen after he's already accomplished everything he stands to gain from the duel.
You can be cruel and betray Erin after all of this... Sounds like a bad idea for a bad ending
 
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