Ren'Py Hero Party Must Fall [v0.5.0 Bugfix 2] [Nitrolith]

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angelsweep said:
The drawing and coloring is great. Nitro has improved a lot as an artist. My feelings regarding this are - this is great art but not a great Sera. Getting a softer body because she abandons the fighter role is nice, but her face looks way less sharp and her hair not being blue is a bit eeh. What bothers me the most is the face. Reminds me more of Elena than it does of Sera
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For me, being able to control/ dominate such a strong woman with a toned body was half the erotic part of Sera. If she gives up her role and becomes flabby like Cecille, what are their differences? We already have a cow, we don't need to lose the tiger and gain another cow.

I've reigned my expectations a little bit regarding this game as it isn't really going where I would like it to go but that is totally okay! I know for sure that I will buy it instantly if it comes to steam and play each new version as soon as possible.
 
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Aenys_Faelin said:
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I think that of course Sera looks really hot here, but there are some criticisms I have with this design.

To me personally the biggest criticism is the face, that does not look like Sera at all, there is something about the face that just does not look like her at all. The hair also appeared to change but to me that doesn't really matters but I can see why people don't like it and it would be confusing for someone to play the game and then out of nowhere her hair is different.

Another criticism is her body, this is not a criticism from me but I can see how some people might not like it. When it comes to the story her body changing actually makes sense, she had the body that she had for the purpose to fight and protect Erin but now that Mars offers her a peaceful life it makes sense that she will loose some of her muscularity even if that's why people ended up liking Sera. Her boobs changing also could have happens because of the course but who knows.

My final criticism is why does she looks like Elena 2.0. I saw somebody bring this up and I agree, now this COULD be because of Sera's personality and if I remember right, characters in the story said that she could be a good mom (if I'm wrong please tell me) and now her body is starting to show that, it could also be the course, but again this is not the same Sera that people ended up liking.

I GET IT the point is she changed but I think that what people would expect is more like a personality change instead of a full body change were you cant even tell who she is, by the way there is also a possibility that I cant tell who she is because of the new art style.

Outside of that this looks good, I still think she looks hot and maybe there is a explanation for the big change, I wouldn't mind this being the final design good job Nitrolith keep working hard and thank you for all your hard work.
 
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Sewyoba said:
That's not Sera, that's Gwyn (side character knight). Sera is reserved and stoic, while Gwyn is more of a stereotypical strong woman
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I understand where you are coming from, but Gwyn is a secondary character that has only been 'romanceable-fuckable' in the last update. There is no struggle with her, she has no curse, and you also do not have any mechanics around her.

Compared to Sera, whom you literally fight over and can beat into a pulp, who is toned with abs, and whose character arc is about physical struggle and pain(which is also why you degrade her even more with Cecille later), Gwyn doesn't really fill that role. Gwyn is the leader/protector of the village, so her corruption also plays a part in power dynamics, that is true. Sera is reserved and stoic, that is also true, but you do not win over that aspect of her character, you win over her distrust and later hatred for you.
 
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So ah, i'm trying to figure it out but i'm not getting there and there's no guide on the FP for it so i gotta ask, what's the 'goal' when training the blonde woman, i can't imagine the villain MC wants the curse to break so it's some kind of balancing act but then what am i trying to maximize and what am i trying to minimize? What should i be looking for for cues?
 
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Bingoogus said:
So ah, i'm trying to figure it out but i'm not getting there and there's no guide on the FP for it so i gotta ask, what's the 'goal' when training the blonde woman, i can't imagine the villain MC wants the curse to break so it's some kind of balancing act but then what am i trying to maximize and what am i trying to minimize? What should i be looking for for cues?
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Just "break" the curse. The MC isn't being honest about what happens after it "breaks."
Make sure to select the option to keep watching the events if you max out the bar before you've seen all of the story content though.
 
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lnppo said:
Just "break" the curse. The MC isn't being honest about what happens after it "breaks."
Make sure to select the option to keep watching the events if you max out the bar before you've seen all of the story content though.
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Ah ok, thanks.
 
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Aenys_Faelin said:
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I like it. The shiny shading is overused, but this is often the case with porn game drawings. Seems like every budding artist spams it everywhere the moment they can. It does give the "look" of supple flesh.

Sera needs more muscle though. More defined delts, core and lats. You can justify the big tits with muh curse, but every character is turning sameish.
 
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DevilishTemptation said:
How can an art be so godlike and sometimes also rough? There's definitely issues with lighting and coloring in some scenes. There's also issues with proportions of the human body in some characters.

Unfortunately, Mars suffers the most from this in various scenes, it is a bit jarring noticing the differences when say you watch scenes of him with Cecille and then scenes of him with Sera back to back for example. I've made this comment before but he can go from pale-ish, to tan, to outright black.

With Yvet and Odette, Mars is dark-skinned. With Sera, he at best has a beach tan. It might be just contrast. There's also proportions. Not only Mars but Cecille and Sera don't seem to have quite consistent body sizes (especially when we're talking bust for Cecille, everything else for Sera) or perhaps it is the artist's trying different perspectives/povs which is giving this impression.

Cecille is immune to lighting and coloring issues at least. In fact, she's got the best art in the game and the least issues. This is just a comment, I don't really expect Nitrolith to redraw a significant part of the game's art just because a few shades of lighting in a few scenes are brighter or darker.
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I must have mentioned this a dozen times but this happens because traditionally cuck porn tends to have race play in it. Subconsciously, Nitro seems to be going for that skin contrast, though he refutes it.

Nitro has personally said that he uses the "same colors" in every scene so Mars isn't actually changing skin colors, but if you take out photoshop and actually check the damn thing, yes. Mars does become much darker with pale women. It's very jarring and often hilarious to see Mars go from Tyrone to Drake to even Chad.

As for the proportions, most of it is because Nitro's art is evolving and what he finds sexy is also changing. He did say he started tihs game to practice drawing and he has much improved. He also gave himself the in-story excuse of the curse to change characters' bodies. However the art can get fucky especially in sex scenes. Mars' penis seems disembodied in some of the scenes, like the penis is attached to something other than his crotch. Cecille seems to lack half her bones, especially her clavicle and ribs in the side-to-side laying down position. Hands are pretty bad especially when he draws them held together. I can't even mention the new gyaru girl's animated scenes. Nitro does not do anatomy well. IIRC he said in the discord, not verbatim, that "anime art style allows you to get away with bad anatomy". This is true to some extent, but Nitro abuses it a tad much.

But most of this is for the trained eye. It does look sexy at first glance.
 
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destroyerofassholes said:
I must have mentioned this a dozen times but this happens because traditionally cuck porn tends to have race play in it. Subconsciously, Nitro seems to be going for that skin contrast, though he refutes it.

Nitro has personally said that he uses the "same colors" in every scene so Mars isn't actually changing skin colors, but if you take out photoshop and actually check the damn thing, yes. Mars does become much darker with pale women. It's very jarring and often hilarious to see Mars go from Tyrone to Drake to even Chad.

As for the proportions, most of it is because Nitro's art is evolving and what he finds sexy is also changing. He did say he started tihs game to practice drawing and he has much improved. He also gave himself the in-story excuse of the curse to change characters' bodies. However the art can get fucky especially in sex scenes. Mars' penis seems disembodied in some of the scenes, like the penis is attached to something other than his crotch. Cecille seems to lack half her bones, especially her clavicle and ribs in the side-to-side laying down position. Hands are pretty bad especially when he draws them held together. I can't even mention the new gyaru girl's animated scenes. Nitro does not do anatomy well. IIRC he said in the discord, not verbatim, that "anime art style allows you to get away with bad anatomy". This is true to some extent, but Nitro abuses it a tad much.

But most of this is for the trained eye. It does look sexy at first glance.
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I actually think Nitro is kind of obsessed with the race play thing lmao like apart from the narratives he included in the last updates, there's literally an unused CG where Elena is wearing a cheerleader outfit with a confederate flag design. Idk if it's a patreon requesting things but it seems to me he wants to spin it into that direction lol
 
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gargamel44 said:
I actually thing Nitro is kind of obsessed with the race play thing lmao like apart from the narratives he included in the last updates, there's literally an unused CG where Elena is wearing a cheerleader confederate flag. Idk if it's a patreon requesting things but it seems to me he wants to spin it into that direction lol
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I hadn't realized. That is fucked up. But it wouldn't surprise me, porn game developers and the fans often tend to be anormal.
 
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