Karnewarrior

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But yeah, things have to be done first. I hope that explanation was okay to you. I could have missed something or forgotten something. I remember doing other stuff, but yeah, that's it.
Good. I figured it would be stuff like this.


I'm mostly worried about your Will To Work, combined with getting used to just not putting stuff out. That combination has lead to the death of almost every project I never completed and will no doubt kill more.

Looks like you're keeping apace though, despite the constant negativity of the thread. I still think capping things off even if it means losing a feature temporarily would be wise, but I'm sated for signs of progress regardless.

Hopefully, posts like this will help curb negativity. Obviously it's not an obligation as it is with Patrons, but if you're going to be as active in this thread as you are, you might consider some light devlogs every once in a while, to remind people that you are indeed still working.
 

slothen29

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Why did it get abandoned?
No posts on patreon in 3 months. I believe once flagged on this site as abandoned it only gets the tag removed on update. f95 also flags abandoned after 18 months without update regardless of patreon activity.

The other reason is the following timeline:

May 2020 - release of v0.1.1
Nov 2020 - release of v0.1.2 - finishes off all ch0 non-seasonal content and includes Halloween content
Jan-Oct 2021 - lots of sneak peaks for v0.1.3 ("chapter 1")
June 2022 - Game is tagged as Abandoned by f95 for the first time, as it has been 18 months since the last update.
Nov 2022 - "I've stopped the development of Chapter 1 a month and a half ago, exactly at Halloween. I will resume the development of Chapter 1 on January 1st. " Komi is working on the Christmas update.
April 2023 - released of v0.1.2.1 , now renamed the "snowy update" because its April 25. This is a large seasonal event with story, lewds, and includes some updates to the game's systems. This content is set after the events of chapter1, which have not yet been finalized or released.
May 2023 - release of v0.1.2.3b, final version of the snowy update, after a full month of patching and bugfixing.
Dec 2023 - 4 year anniversary patreon post
March 2024 - 3 months to the day from the last patreon post, game is tagged as "abandoned" a second time.
 

bolso_lula

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but how many hours of new content each update has? in general, like 20 hours? 40? if is this big it would be worth the wait.
 

Seidou

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Komi, I see that you're active here and I just have one question, why can't you release what you have right now? You've been working nearly a year straight, there should be a lot of content and I'm sure everybody here would enjoy it. To me it just looks like there's no end goal in sight, there is no "chapter 1 part 1 release". And I assure you a lot of weight would be taken off of your shoulders.
 

deskt

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I remember him mentioning that Chapter 1 was going to be around 20 hours long, but that was 2 years ago. I imagine it's closer to 40 hours now lol.
that would be the case if
1) komi has really done what he said over the past few years
2) so many re-dones were not made
In the end one of this is true and the other is a lie, we just wait to see which of the 2 is

Komi, I see that you're active here and I just have one question, why can't you release what you have right now? You've been working nearly a year straight, there should be a lot of content and I'm sure everybody here would enjoy it. To me it just looks like there's no end goal in sight, there is no "chapter 1 part 1 release". And I assure you a lot of weight would be taken off of your shoulders.
some people have already asked the same question before, but we still don't know beyond "I don't want to."
 

God_Batman

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Man...i was waiting since last year and i didnt had any news about it, bruh I was suprised to see the abandoned tag.
 

Karnewarrior

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Komi, I see that you're active here and I just have one question, why can't you release what you have right now? You've been working nearly a year straight, there should be a lot of content and I'm sure everybody here would enjoy it. To me it just looks like there's no end goal in sight, there is no "chapter 1 part 1 release". And I assure you a lot of weight would be taken off of your shoulders.
He said it's because a lot of things are currently broken for the purposes of gameplay. Stuff like UI that doesn't allow you to place puzzle pieces correctly or logic that looks for the wrong variable to see when your done and that sort of stuff.

I'm not convinced rewriting the whole system was wise and I'm definitely unconvinced holding the update back until everything is perfect is the way to go, but that's what Komi's doing. You can see example stuff in that post from a while back for what he's working on.
 

riderin

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mucho texto
I'm not gonna bother quoting all the points, I'll just point some specifics and laugh.
You just proved that you have 0 real communication and leadership abilities. Nothing what you showed is any complicated to describe and explain to competent even "cheap" programmers, or artists.

Am i getting it right that you even doing translation by hand? Not even hiring proper translator? Man i wish i could ask you as straight forward as i want to express it, but rules are rules.

You mean you hire artists for your items and icons? Can you show us "your" icons? Because a lot of icons i see on screenshots i even know where you got them...

Progress and updates are available on Patreon which haven't been updated since 15th december last year ROFL. Komi always have time to pick fights on this forum, but never time to update his own Patrons who pay him money. Let me guess you update them on discord? Where you barely update shit besides telling everyone how sick you are, or tired while posting KK screenshot which can be made in 30 minutes by competent KK artist. But wait you update your trello... Tracking down where is the actual latest Komi progress report is a game on its own lol. Komi love to play those games, its never easy with him if you catch him in one of his bs, he is already 30 mottes ahead of us, and prepping 50 bailey just in case.

Interesting observation on files you showed, there is like ~200ish of them, and you can see date of modifications. Look even at the VERY top, bunch of files being worked on 14th and than a week of nothing. That we have 2 weeks of modifications and another week of nothing. And even this "active" development looks sparce, for active development. Small clumps of very few files changes. It looks like updates of singular dev, in a proper big company enviroment where there is a lot of routine and overhead. For solo project it looks... Like person barely does anything really.
But names of your own files tells a bigger story than you think they do. You just tattled on yourself hard bro. ;)
 
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riderin

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After press on a button, cover everything except my to cool for school animation with a sliding cover from right to left. Add monocolore silhouette of my animation sliding to the left (attach paint level drawing as an example here). Direction of sliding/tweening always from right to left. Tween slide 3 buttons with Blueprints, Gear and Leave. Slide logo of blueprints at top right.

Tell him that I want exactly this;
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I would personally use paint to demo what i want. But i bet this can be explained.

Okay then... A programmer? So I would have to sit down and explain all the game's system to a guy.
This shows much more about YOU as a person. Spend an hour explaining your approach, and you double your productivity. Yes overhead is involved in any team work, 9 women can't make baby in a month. But in a good team 2-4 people can do dream work.
Nothing you shows, is complex, as i said in previous post, if you speak all just point to your utter incompetence.
Remember when you will be wiping your tears with dollar bills, that it could all have been much better, if you only tried a little harder to better yourself.
 

God_Batman

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Man...its truly amazing to see how humans are talented to produce any kind of violence just because they want to LMAO.

( It gets even funnier when it's about porn games )
 
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deskt

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I'm not gonna bother quoting all the points, I'll just point some specifics and laugh.
This shows much more about YOU as a person. Spend an hour explaining your approach, and you double your productivity. Yes overhead is involved in any team work, 9 women can't make baby in a month. But in a good team 2-4 people can do dream work.
Nothing you shows, is complex, as i said in previous post, if you speak all just point to your utter incompetence.
Remember when you will be wiping your tears with dollar bills, that it could all have been much better, if you only tried a little harder to better yourself.
quite nice to see that there are people who have common sense
Man...its truly amazing to see how humans are talented to produce any kind of violence just because they want to LMAO.

( It gets even funnier when it's about porn games )
we are human this happens with anything
 
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