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Disclaimer: I love the story and love the characters. My comments are from a critic point of view, but nonetheless made with lots of love! In fact, this is one of those stories I love so much I almost always end up starting over, and while my comments are on the "believable side of things" I think it is a mistake to always criticize a novel for it realism. A novel should be mainly criticized for its plot, for the inconsistency of their characters and for the use of deus ex machinas.


There are a few problems if you will with the setting.

Charlotte: The biggest problem with her we all now what it is. She is clearly a woman living in fear given her past experience. But from a literary point of view, it really made more sense for her to hire a female body guard, regardless of MC being the best. In fact, given how rich she is, she could arguably hire two, MC and the female he spoke of. The second one would be the one close enough to Emma, living with them while MC would be the organizer, protecting them from the distance. Not only this would make more sense to the likes of Charlotte, it would also be more effective as a mean of protection.
There is a problem, if you will with this argument. It only seems worth it once you know that the threat is big enough. But if the threat is not big enough, you don't need the very best bodyguard in the industry.
Having said that, I disagree with most claiming Charlotte is simply out of the picture given her past. I do believe that the relationship with the MC can be part of a healing process for her. The problem would be "oh I fall in love with MC. Magically, all my problems are gone". That would definitely be a poor approach.
MY TAKE on the matter would be something like this: the current situation with Emma forced Charlotte to acknowledge her problems, realizing how much her problems have hurt her children, in particular Emma (more on this below) and her own inability to become happy. Also, the idea of a finally a gone guy that is there without trying to take advantage of her open up her mind in how unfair she has been and make her realize even further that her disposition is not natural. These fact would take her to require the help of a psychiatrist. Now, with a little of innovative disposition, the specialist sees the presence of MC as a catalyst to further help Charlotte grow and heal, making their connection grow not as a cause for her healing process, but as a consequence of it.

Emma: I have already gone several post about how Emma should be younger for everything to fit better. This is really the only one correction you need to make her work perfectly in the novel (15 years old Emma acting like a 11/12 years old). At the same time, that correction would make her what many of you are claiming: not romanceable. While I totally love the cutie, even myself feel many more times a father's kind of love intead of a "daddy" towards her. So, in the end, she really does not need a lover, she needs someone that would love her and protect her what at the same time helping her grow up and develop into the the best person and woman she can be, something that her mother has failed to do so given by sheltering her. MC could become a father figure that lets her bloom.

Lucy: I think all is good with her. In fact, an MC that prefers her over her sister would be totally good given her inferiority complex. I also would like to further explore this problem in a realistic but not low kick way. That is, I don't want suddenly Lucy becoming a villain, but it would be nice to see her inferiority complex plays a few more times.

Suzy: As my second favorite characters, I have also written a lot about her. I think she can do for a fantastic rival heroine. Love and hate relationship. I don't want to repeat myself (that is new!) so if anybody wants to further discuss it I can search for my posts.


Me too!! Which scene are you talking about'?
the scene where she's scared of a spider and MC runs in the room while Emma is naked
 
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I think this story is off to a good start. I tend to enjoy these where the story itself can work without necessarily having to have a fap scene every few clicks. I am looking forward to seeing if it becomes a head slapping "saw that coming" moment or something really unexpected actually happens.
 

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Good post overall. I tend to agree with a lot of it. Even the section about Emma. But how do you have the developer change the bits about Emma's designer career. Do 15-year-olds really do such projects in high school? It's not just her doing those competitions. It's the entire class.

You might need to do something about Zak too. At least the movies he appears in. 15-year-old pool boy and surfer heartthrob? Maybe, but it's a stretch.

So I don't think it's quite so simple as changing Emma's age and school. Even I could do that with a couple of mass replaces to the scripts.
 
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romancing Charlotte really feels as a healing process or at least i hope it will be
Love will help her a lot :), but we need to wait a pretty long time, because, if Charlie changed her behavior to the MC in a moment, plot will became awful. (It concerns to all 4 love interests in the game). The MC should built relationship of trust with all Lloyds' ladies and then we can count on some friendship and then we can expect love interest from one of the lady. It's a long shot path.

The problem would be "oh I fall in love with MC. Magically, all my problems are gone". That would definitely be a poor approach.
I feel the same. Well, there you are, great minds think alike :WeSmart: (No offence, I'm trying to laugh a bit). In fact, it was clearly logical conclusion to make. I'm glad to see someone, who took my point of view.

the idea that Charlotte could be healed by just a decent guy and love after her past and way she behaves is less likely.
I disagree with you, and I didn't catch who was saying that "decent guy" could heal? You may call me naive, but time and love heals our life wounds. I give an example from my life: my aunt get married in 80's, her husband was like a wolf in sheepskin - kind and friendly on public and abuser in home, added to that he was an alcoholic. My aunt forgive him so many times, she even lose a count how many. She forgive his adulteries, (jeez, she even knew all the names of his sluts), he betrayed her many times and all of this continued until his death. I asked a lot of questions to my aunt and the last one was: if there's a opportunity to have a relationship with a man after so many years of loneliness, will you be with him or probably start a new family?" She answered that maybe she will try again to be woman in love, but she needs to fall in love so hard like some kind of magic need to show up, because she looks at men through x-rays glasses and play with her is a really bad idea - she sees right through them at once. My aunt doesn't disappoint in men, she believes in love and doesn't compare her bloody husband with all men on Earth.

the kind of trauma's she had to endure and how she is shown to react to them over time makes quite a strong case for her needing some professional help to deal with them if this was real life instead of a game and overcoming the trauma's and how they made her behave and then she will still need to overcome some deep seated trust issues likely.
"I believe in love, it's all we got...
...Without love I wouldn't believe,
I couldn't believe in you,
And I wouldn't believe in me
Without love"
Elton John sang it perfectly what I'm gonna saying right now. And these words, even if they're a boring cliché in art or in life being, but love gives us a strength, hope, faith, self-confidence in what we're doing. And I believe that Charlotte will have an appointment to psychiatrist again, because she will want to deal with her own old problem, but she needs to trust to the MC, fall in love with the MC. Why she should change something in her life, everything looks good to her, but the MC will show her that is not. Then she will have hesitation in her behavior towards the MC and she will suffer because of it - her mind tell her to stop, her heart tell her to try, her reflexes tell her to run away... Because she has been building the ice-castle so many years, decades, that it will be impossible to ruin that castle at once. It's predictable to go to psychiatrist, because she needs a clear second opinion, she needs answers, help to rebalance her priorities of life. Charlotte is a tough woman, but in that case emotions will overwhelm her.

Not only this would make more sense to the likes of Charlotte, it would also be more effective as a mean of protection.
Having a team of bodyguards is quite logical, but, unfortunately, plot won't work in that way, and it will be a real hardcore for dev to deal with it. Even Jed Mercurio write analogical event that David save Julia and storms Pascoe house by himself (he got a team in the other car, but doesn't ask them for a help), and that twist of plot help to bring close together Julia and David (David is only one, who cares about her, he was there with her in the car, he's a hero, who save her life).

I do believe that the relationship with the MC can be part of a healing process for her.
I believe too :)

the current situation with Emma forced Charlotte to acknowledge her problems, realizing how much her problems have hurt her children, in particular Emma (more on this below) and her own inability to become happy.
My thoughts exactly! Dev has been already hinted to us that the MC had moved in correct direction (a gift with photos of Charlottes' children) Own children means all to their mothers. But Charlie needs a frank talk, she needs a clear point of view. She needs to know about bullying to Emma.

But what will happen with Lucy if the MC does prefer Charlotte?
Well, she needs to have that man to lose ;). In fact, if there's a possibility to make a love triangle, Charlotte will leave the MC and the MC like Geralt in the Witcher 3 ended up with nothing at all, BUT dev has been already said there's no harem in this game, so maybe HillsideVN will tease these type of gamers :whistle: and then spoiled their intentions (I'm a pure evil :devilish:)
 

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She would seek for a bar to get drunk, go in Steve's, get along with that "no-filter crazy but funny pervert" and live a beautiful and nasty life :D
They are perfect for each other tbh, Bonnie and Clyde (Hillside Edition) :KEK:
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Good post overall. I tend to agree with a lot of it. Even the section about Emma. But how do you have the developer change the bits about Emma's designer career. Do 15-year-olds really do such projects in high school? It's not just her doing those competitions. It's the entire class.

You might need to do something about Zak too. At least the movies he appears in. 15-year-old pool boy and surfer heartthrob? Maybe, but it's a stretch.

So I don't think it's quite so simple as changing Emma's age and school. Even I could do that with a couple of mass replaces to the scripts.
Well, I don't know what DB has in mind for the future, so the current proposition might not work, but maybe some things like this?

First, there is not need for Zak to be 15 too. You can make him 17, being in his last year of high school. It would work right? 17 YO popular guy banging everything that moves in high school, our dear Emma also in love with the guy. (just writing that sentence makes me angry, little piece of shit)

About Emma's career, it could be something that she is pursuing while in high school. In fact, in can allow for potential problems, where she is starting to take less care about her grades in other subjects by focusing too much on her designer's studies. After all, I don't think it would be that surprising for her to study that besides high school.

Having a team of bodyguards is quite logical, but, unfortunately, plot won't work in that way, and it will be a real hardcore for dev to deal with it. Even Jed Mercurio write analogical event that David save Julia and storms Pascoe house by himself (he got a team in the other car, but doesn't ask them for a help), and that twist of plot help to bring close together Julia and David (David is only one, who cares about her, he was there with her in the car, he's a hero, who save her life).
Oh yes. I had written first "for literary point of view" it would make sense when I wanted for "non literary point of view" precisely as it would make the interaction harder.
You could also go the hard way, make it that way in the story and make the danger escalate to the point in which Charlotte ends up accepting to have MC protecting Emma, maybe after the other bodyguard gets very badly injured.

I feel the same. Well, there you are, great minds think alike :WeSmart: (No offence, I'm trying to laugh a bit). In fact, it was clearly logical conclusion to make. I'm glad to see someone, who took my point of view.
None taken haha
 
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You could also go the hard way, make it that way in the story and make the danger escalate to the point in which Charlotte ends up accepting to have MC protecting Emma, maybe after the other bodyguard gets very badly injured.
I hope we'll see escalation in the future updates - the plot needs a constant development, but rates should increased step by step. The next update may remain the same level of narration, but it should level ups after. We don't know anything about bad boys band (Charlottes' rapers and Zac and his friends), we need wait to see their intentions (only Emma in danger or the whole Lloyd family?). And after that the MC will make a decision how to protect ladies ( :unsure: maybe they go out of town to the lovely little house, where they can get to know each other - it would be perfect holiday :love:).
In my opinion, an extra bodyguard should be in the beginning of the story, include him/her now, whiteout knowing the case of danger, it's not appropriate. Maybe afterwards, when the MC choose his lady, an extra one will be needed ;).
 
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I hope we'll see escalation in the future updates - the plot needs a constant development, but rates should increased step by step. The next update may remain the same level of narration, but it should level ups after. We don't know anything about bad boys band (Charlottes' rapers and Zac and his friends), we need wait to see their intentions (only Emma in danger or the whole Lloyd family?). And after that the MC will make a decision how to protect ladies ( :unsure: maybe they go out of town to the lovely little house, where they can get to know each other - it would be perfect holiday :love:).
In my opinion, an extra bodyguard should be in the beginning of the story, include him/her now, whiteout knowing the case of danger, it's not appropriate. Maybe afterwards, when the MC choose his lady, an extra one will be needed ;).
Well, as I said it hiring only a female bodyguard in the beginning when it looked like a simple stalking case would have made more sense, until the police solved it quickly, instead of having a terrifying man inside the house. But that would do for a harder story.
Still, now that the level of danger have increased you can have MC decide to include another bodyguard to protect at all times both daughters, specially once this Johno asshole becomes known to MC.

We will see what happens. I seriously want to kill all those motherfuckers. Like be a caring and super lovely figure for Emma, giving her hugs and ticking her all the time, everything to make her smile, while secretly making every one of those asshole suffer and slowly disappear. That piece of shit Zak can only hurt my baby. And whoever is stalking her needs to understand that nobody has a very unnatural obsession with my cutie but me!
 

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After missing my last release date I said that I would no longer set a date for future releases. I'm still aiming to release new updates on roughly the same schedule, every 8 weeks, but they will now be released when they are ready.
I'll post a weekly development update for $5+ patrons to let you know what I've been doing and how things are progressing.
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Typically this involves:
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In the first week of developing v0.9 I have completed the story and written approximately 10% of the first draft of the dialogue. I also bought two new outfits for Charlotte (see below). We should get to see her wear at least one of them in v0.9.
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