bigpenniser

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If you do not have an option to meet with Joy to discuss Sara, then you aren't far enough along with the Sara questline. Have you talked with Sara and got a bottle of her tanline remover/cover-up lotion?
No dont think so
Thats the thing I never got any way to talk to her after finishing the rehabilitation quests I think
 

junior366

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Hello everyone.
I'm trying to meet Sara at the nightbar, how do you proceed ?
From page 130 of the Companion Guide: HOW TO GET SARA’S NIGHT BAR SCENES Once Yumiko has arranged for you to meet Sara about Miriam’s self tanning lotion. Sara asked you to talk to Joy so she can go to the Night Bar and have fun. Once you return to Sara and tell her the good news she will give you the lotion and now she can go to the Night Bar once a week on Friday. For the five Night Bar scenes. Hover over each picture and it will give you clues on what clothes she’s wearing etc, etc. Utmost for these, patience your gonna be awhile.
 

darkhound1

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Hehe, I'll take that one out my next batch:

In the scene where Jennifer shows you the photo studio:
"I'm so happy Joy did that for me. It's like a dream come true."​
would be better as​
"I'm so happy Joy did this for me. It's like a dream come true."​

During Aly's pool pose scene:
"I just remember something about one of my former boyfriends..."​
should be​
"I just remembered something about one of my former boyfriends..."​
and:
"What's ot like for a girl to have breasts the size of yours?"​
should be​
"What's it like for a girl to have breasts the size of yours?"​
and:
"The workout (and maybe me turning 18) had another effect too."​
should be​
"The workouts (and maybe me turning 18) had another effect too."​
and (granted, I'm being a little picky with this one):
"Her talking about her tits in unison with the presentation of her huge knockers turns you on quite a bit."​
would be better as​
"Her talking about her huge knockers combined with the presentation of them turns you on quite a bit."​
"presentation" would probably be best replaced by "sight" or maybe "display"​

During Natasha's return to the island scene:
"Feeling more secure, he was really looking or more like googling... *chuckles*"​
should be:​
"Feeling more secure, he was really looking or more like goggling... *chuckles*"​
and:
"Before I talked to him..."​
would be better as​
"Before I said to him..."​
and:
"Since he was at a loss for words at the moment, I didn't give him time to recover..."​
would be better as​
"Since he was at a loss for words at that moment, I didn't give him time to recover..."​

During Renee's drink at the bar scene:
"There was this agency... Busty Escorts and they only had superrich and well-selected clients..."​
Would be better as​
"There was this agency... Busty Escorts and they only had super-rich and well-selected clients..."​
and (this one might be a generic one; this is just where I spotted it):
"What do you think why you were offered this job on the Island, Renee?"​
would be better as (there's a pile of variants for this, so here's just a couple)​
"Why do you think you were offered this job on the Island, Renee?"​
or​
"What do you think was the reason you were offered this job on the Island, Renee?"​

During drinks at the bar scene:
"You know [girl], I fell for you from the moment I first saw you on the island."​
would be better as​
"You know [girl], I fell for you the moment I first saw you on the island."​
Let's point some others I've noticed :

During Amy Yoga workout.
"Can we move one? ..."
It should be "Can we move ON?"

While speaking to Mercedes by the pool.
"I supposed that makes sense"
"I suppose that ..."

First time you find Delizia asleep while studying,
"No! Imean, of you're attractive..."
"No! I mean, you're attractive! ..." English isn't my first laguage, but this "of" gets me confuse.

Amy when drinking with her at the night bar.
"I almost always get want I want ..."
"... get WHAT I want..."

Ok, that's all for now.
And btw thanks a lot for this great game darkhound1
FWIW, I would suggest ogling, gawking, leering, or staring instead of goggling. While goggling is a technically correct usage in this particular context, it seems to be fairly obscure and seldom used.

</grammar_nerd>

p.s. - I also found another typo:
When you hover the pointer over the 6th Achievement for Delizia on the MC's phone, it says, "When Desire returns after her exam, you celebrate by having sex in the gym", but it should say Delizia.

View attachment 1705968
All fixed, thanks.
 

darkhound1

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Here's a persistent file that was causing the game not to load. I had to append the .sav extension to it to get f95 to allow it to be attached.
Thanks, but it's no longer needed. I got one some time ago and investigated the issue. It#s a general ren'py problem. Nothing I can do about it. It will hopefully go away when I upgrade the ren'py version.
 

RHead

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I got Delizia's leaving for exam event while back in my room going for a nap. She leaves and the game goes into exception:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/functions.rpy", line 4048, in <module>
IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/script.rpyc", line 491, in script call
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File "game/events_short.rpyc", line 95, in script call
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File "game/functions.rpyc", line 4048, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 922, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2218, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/functions.rpy", line 4048, in <module>
File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.linux-x86_64/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 277, in choice
File "renpy/python.py", line 992, in __getitem__
rv = list.__getitem__(self, index)
IndexError: list index out of range

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.4.1439
Holiday Island 0.3.5.0
Wed Mar 16 19:10:26 2022
 

darkhound1

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I got Delizia's leaving for exam event while back in my room going for a nap. She leaves and the game goes into exception:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/functions.rpy", line 4048, in <module>
IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/script.rpyc", line 491, in script call
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File "game/functions.rpyc", line 1780, in script call
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File "game/events_short.rpyc", line 95, in script call
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File "game/events_short.rpyc", line 2747, in script call
IAh:�F���dc}�(�>��6�=8�M
File "game/functions.rpyc", line 4048, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 922, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2218, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/functions.rpy", line 4048, in <module>
File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.linux-x86_64/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 277, in choice
File "renpy/python.py", line 992, in __getitem__
rv = list.__getitem__(self, index)
IndexError: list index out of range

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.4.1439
Holiday Island 0.3.5.0
Wed Mar 16 19:10:26 2022
Do you have a save game shortly before this happens?
 

Bantry

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One of the reasons the Guide includes a statement from the developer to NOT achievement hunt, is that one can get tunnel vision and get trapped in a dead end until some other stuff happens. But, human nature being what it is and creatures of habit, blah, blah, blah., people are going to continue to do what they do.

Where am I going with all this? Simple, if you try and just focus on one girl, let's say Sara, you will drive yourself nuts trying to get her to the Nightbar because Holiday Island is a Sandbox game and NOT a linear, go from point A to point B, game. Before you ever get Sara to the Nightbar, you have to meet her in the secret lab, interact with Miriam, interact with Yumiko, interact with Joy, interact with Jennifer, etc. All those interactions take time and cannot happen in one week as much as you would like them to. Maybe you would like to be able to fast forward time to Friday's so as to interact with Sara, but that is not the way the game is designed.

Play the game and interact with the other girls while you wait for time to pass. The Guide includes a lot of information, but just as it doesn't include a list of answers for 'Guess Who' or 'Hotshots' you have to discover some of it on your own. If you do not want to invest that kind of effort in a game, then maybe you need to find something else to play.
 

The Doode

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Still cannot figure out how to get the invitation from Yvette after the incident in the bar.. Been alone, with max stats, six times now... I get the sex picture.. But that is it.. over and over.. Any ideas?
 

anon2002

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FWIW, I would suggest ogling, gawking, leering, or staring instead of goggling. While goggling is a technically correct usage in this particular context, it seems to be fairly obscure and seldom used.

</grammar_nerd>
I'm afraid I'd disagree somewhat (bearing in mind this is all down to opinion).

Goggling has a pretty specific meaning that I think matches the situation very well; it's staring in wide-eyed amazement or surprise, usually with an absence of self-awareness or with incredulity. Gawking is similar though I'd define it as being more slack-jawed than wide-eyed. I don't think goggling is as rarely used as you think. At least it's still used regularly enough in my part of the UK anyway. Besides, it's a damned fine word that deserves to be said aloud, just try it!

Ogling and leering are definitely conscious actions in my opinion, and I think leering is negative behaviour that is decidedly against the MC's character.

It's interesting how versatile language is with this sort of thing. It's fun to see how subtle differences between synonyms can drastically change the meaning or subtext of a sentence.
 
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44Tom

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I'm afraid I'd disagree somewhat (bearing in mind this is all down to opinion).

I don't think goggling is as rarely used as you think. At least it's still used regularly enough in my part of the UK anyway.
In US English, goggling is not used so much. I would say that it is more common to say gawking, gapeing or staring.
 

anon2002

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In US English, goggling is not used so much. I would say that it is more common to say gawking, gapeing or staring.
Interesting! Gawping was more common than gawking (though the same word really) in the UK though the latter is kind of taking over, probably due to US influence, and gapeing would be gaping in the UK. In the UK, gawping/gawking tends to have semi-insulting connotations; implying the person gawping/gawking is a bit stupid. conversely, goggling is more about surprise, disbelief, or confounded expectations. Staring is more of a bland catch-all that doesn't impart any particular nuance.

I'm obviously not sure about the nuances in definition of these words in the US, but the differentiations are certainly present over here, at least in my experience.

Hmm, this is beginning to sound a bit too intellectual for a thread dedicated to massive boobies. May I suggest we all lower our standards back down somewhat folks? :p
 

MarsUltor

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I'm afraid I'd disagree somewhat (bearing in mind this is all down to opinion).

Goggling has a pretty specific meaning that I think matches the situation very well; it's staring in wide-eyed amazement or surprise, usually with an absence of self-awareness or with incredulity. Gawking is similar though I'd define it as being more slack-jawed than wide-eyed. I don't think goggling is as rarely used as you think. At least it's still used regularly enough in my part of the UK anyway. Besides, it's a damned fine word that deserves to be said aloud, just try it!

Ogling and leering are definitely conscious actions in my opinion, and I think leering is negative behaviour that is decidedly against the MC's character.

It's interesting how versatile language is with this sort of thing. It's fun to see how subtle differences between synonyms can drastically change the meaning or subtext of a sentence.
I appreciate your comment and contrasting point of view. As I (half) jokingly implied with my "grammar nerd 'off' pseudo-tag", I enjoy discussions about semantics, rhetoric, connotation, and wordsmithing (I know... bizarre doesn't even begin to describe it), and like many other "ugly Americans", I sometimes fall into the trap of seeing the world in general and the English language in particular through a U.S.-centric lens, forgetting that this game is intended for a global audience and that the dialog (or "dialogue" for you folks across the pond) is not explicitly American English.

IIRC, Natasha is from India (and would be more likely to speak something akin to the Queen's English), so "goggling" would be fine, though I think "gawking", "staring wide-eyed", "staring gobsmacked", or "staring nonplussed" would all work well, too (though "gobsmacked" and "nonplussed" are probably both at least slight exaggerations; I just like saying "gobsmacked" and "nonplussed", the same way you like saying "goggling"). Of course, darkhound1 has the final say.

EDIT: I wholeheartedly agree that bewbs trump semantics any day of the week that ends in "y" . . .
 
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