- Sep 17, 2020
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I'm a big fan of traps and I'm glad more people are making games centered around them. Love the art style, this game looks like it's only going up from here - Keep up the great work!
Ren'Py Honey Kingdom [v0.2b] [PhantomZz]
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Err what door? There's 2 and neither let you leave. Not really seeing what the fuss is about here, gameplay is non existent but also nothing's happening. Sandbox works if there's places to go and things to see. This just appears to be endless grindy grind.Use the door
- Oct 24, 2019
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So still no journal or hint system to keep this sandbox from feeling like a content desert.
You would think that not whoring Lisa out at the glory hole would lead to being able to bring her into your office for some fun. You'd think that there would be some sort of daily milking and/or anal options to keep her from getting all backed up. So the whole plot arc about getting her to the couch and having to involve Maria to figure out what is going on seems way too contrived for me.
Right now MC has to call people into his office to advance anything. This simply adds to the grind. Once we get Alice squared away with the cafe job and her broom, that daily job with the once a week cleaning should be an automatic thing.
If we don't send Lisa off to the Glory Hole right off, the plot arc should have her hanging around the MC's office all day reading coffee table books or something. That would make it a lot easier to add some side conversations for back story and additional exposition. That should also include coming to an understanding that she wants to be a sex worker or the MC's gopher.
On the gopher route, the daily $$ grind is some sort of journalist shtick so maybe MC can start writing a series of investigative journalism about the trap underground, and Lisa is your goto for networking. That can go hand in hand with Maria where we have no further plot development with her now other than we know she can go to the auction.
The way the map is set up right now adds to the content desert. "Right now, I don't need anything there" usually really means "not implemented yet". So either hide the location on the clickable imagemap or just tell the truth. This phrase gives an artificial feeling that something is there later in the current playable content and thus detracts from the user experience as you keep banging your head against the wall. The Best Buy (lawsuit incoming I'm sure) has one plot point and then turns into an additional npc that has no further dialog. The park seems to open when Kate arrives, but there's nothing there after her first plot point, and you didn't even need to use the map to trigger that event.
The reno work on the additional room should have a timer showing how many days are left before it opens up.
You would think that not whoring Lisa out at the glory hole would lead to being able to bring her into your office for some fun. You'd think that there would be some sort of daily milking and/or anal options to keep her from getting all backed up. So the whole plot arc about getting her to the couch and having to involve Maria to figure out what is going on seems way too contrived for me.
Right now MC has to call people into his office to advance anything. This simply adds to the grind. Once we get Alice squared away with the cafe job and her broom, that daily job with the once a week cleaning should be an automatic thing.
If we don't send Lisa off to the Glory Hole right off, the plot arc should have her hanging around the MC's office all day reading coffee table books or something. That would make it a lot easier to add some side conversations for back story and additional exposition. That should also include coming to an understanding that she wants to be a sex worker or the MC's gopher.
On the gopher route, the daily $$ grind is some sort of journalist shtick so maybe MC can start writing a series of investigative journalism about the trap underground, and Lisa is your goto for networking. That can go hand in hand with Maria where we have no further plot development with her now other than we know she can go to the auction.
The way the map is set up right now adds to the content desert. "Right now, I don't need anything there" usually really means "not implemented yet". So either hide the location on the clickable imagemap or just tell the truth. This phrase gives an artificial feeling that something is there later in the current playable content and thus detracts from the user experience as you keep banging your head against the wall. The Best Buy (lawsuit incoming I'm sure) has one plot point and then turns into an additional npc that has no further dialog. The park seems to open when Kate arrives, but there's nothing there after her first plot point, and you didn't even need to use the map to trigger that event.
The reno work on the additional room should have a timer showing how many days are left before it opens up.
- Sep 28, 2020
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Glad to see you're still going at it, dev.
Way to many newcomers just dissappear lately. Nice to see one of the few promising surprises surviving.
Way to many newcomers just dissappear lately. Nice to see one of the few promising surprises surviving.
@Phantom_zz
Since this game is available in English and Russian, I can't keep myself from writing...
You know that being even just slightly gayish is illegal in Putin's dictatorship, right?
And...
Well, that's Russia, but pretty much (almost) nowhere else.
I'm gonna stop my ranting about the Russian system (for now)... and...
Also, you should make it a lot more clear that the "females" in this game are traps.
The general idea and graphics are okay.
But "girls" with dicks really puts me off, as many, many others here. Why not include both girls and boys and let people decide who to hire???
Also, you seem to argue with yourself whether or not the town/city the brothel is in is, in fact, a town or a city. I read both. And which neighboring town is from breakfast to afternoon kilometers away?
And finally, if your dad leaves you with a company as well as a building, it would not be a secretary making you aware of it, but a lawyer.
Since this game is available in English and Russian, I can't keep myself from writing...
You know that being even just slightly gayish is illegal in Putin's dictatorship, right?
And...
Well, that's Russia, but pretty much (almost) nowhere else.
I'm gonna stop my ranting about the Russian system (for now)... and...
Also, you should make it a lot more clear that the "females" in this game are traps.
The general idea and graphics are okay.
But "girls" with dicks really puts me off, as many, many others here. Why not include both girls and boys and let people decide who to hire???
Also, you seem to argue with yourself whether or not the town/city the brothel is in is, in fact, a town or a city. I read both. And which neighboring town is from breakfast to afternoon kilometers away?
And finally, if your dad leaves you with a company as well as a building, it would not be a secretary making you aware of it, but a lawyer.
This is the "walkthrough" the dev mentioned re version 0.1. I fail to see the reason why people would want to go on his discord just to get this.
BTW I can verify, you CANNOT EXIT and go buy anything (right away at least)- the door only lets you check mail and you can't go to other floors either.
BTW I can verify, you CANNOT EXIT and go buy anything (right away at least)- the door only lets you check mail and you can't go to other floors either.
Oh. A broom is not a "she", by the way. It's an "it". It may be female form in Russian, but not in English.
You make the same mistake with other items.
And... if you make mutated female fucktoys, seriously, you wouldn't include dicks on 100% of them. Maybe one out of 100, but that's pretty much the percentage of guys into cocks. Seriously.
Make this a game for gays, cause that's what it caters for. (not that I dislike homosexuals, but I just don't want to play games with girls with dicks).
It seems like this game, however much others like it, is a fucking mess of senseless stuff.
Once again finally ... it seems that you don't have any say in who to employ at the "hotel". Making this game pretty linear which is not interesting for a sandbox.
Regarding Lisa:
(Hmm, does she really want to give me a blowjob?)
Next screen (Choice):
"Let him continue".
Fuuuuck.
... OH and by the way:
I agreed that Lisa could come and blow me in the mornings.
But she doesn't.
You make the same mistake with other items.
And... if you make mutated female fucktoys, seriously, you wouldn't include dicks on 100% of them. Maybe one out of 100, but that's pretty much the percentage of guys into cocks. Seriously.
Make this a game for gays, cause that's what it caters for. (not that I dislike homosexuals, but I just don't want to play games with girls with dicks).
It seems like this game, however much others like it, is a fucking mess of senseless stuff.
Once again finally ... it seems that you don't have any say in who to employ at the "hotel". Making this game pretty linear which is not interesting for a sandbox.
Regarding Lisa:
(Hmm, does she really want to give me a blowjob?)
Next screen (Choice):
"Let him continue".
Fuuuuck.
... OH and by the way:
I agreed that Lisa could come and blow me in the mornings.
But she doesn't.
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Hello, I am also glad to see you again. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to implement a lot of things in this version (I shouldn't have set myself deadlines), but I hope to catch up in the future.
Kate's character development feels a bit rushed in this update. Going from "I'll run away (maybe)!" to "let me suck your dick" through 3 running events ... bit too easy.
imo there could at least have been one or two more steps to it; one, have to player train at the gym (or at least go on a run in the park), two, buy Kate some running gear or whatever first.
imo there could at least have been one or two more steps to it; one, have to player train at the gym (or at least go on a run in the park), two, buy Kate some running gear or whatever first.
Not doing a full review yet, going to let the game develop a bit more first.
So,phupdup up there was a little angry, but I do agree with some of their sentiments.
1) The way the game is presented, with the map showing inaccesible locations, makes it feel like there is more to unlock than is actually there. The "phantom content" does the game a disservice by making it feel there is less content than there is. The same amount of liquid in a glass twice the size, looks and feels like a smaller drink.
2) There is actually also just not really a lot of content. I know it is early days, but it would be nice to get a few more repeatable scenes in a little earlier in the game.
3) Some actions are really repetitive. To get coffe, you need to;
Click phone > Call Alice > Work > Cafe > Door > Cafe > Alice > Don't say no
After you add going through the dialogue, that's 10-15 clicks you need to do near every in game day, because coffe improves your money, there's no reason to not drink it.
Like - we don't want the game to play itself, we're playing porn games over over porn medias for a reason - but streamlining a few things, like giving the girls work, and navigating would be good. Perhaps for internal locations, like cafe + other rooms as they become available, a nav bar across the top of the screen would be useful.
All that said - I enjoyed what was there so far, was looking forward to the update being released, and I'll be waiting for the next one.
So,phupdup up there was a little angry, but I do agree with some of their sentiments.
1) The way the game is presented, with the map showing inaccesible locations, makes it feel like there is more to unlock than is actually there. The "phantom content" does the game a disservice by making it feel there is less content than there is. The same amount of liquid in a glass twice the size, looks and feels like a smaller drink.
2) There is actually also just not really a lot of content. I know it is early days, but it would be nice to get a few more repeatable scenes in a little earlier in the game.
3) Some actions are really repetitive. To get coffe, you need to;
Click phone > Call Alice > Work > Cafe > Door > Cafe > Alice > Don't say no
After you add going through the dialogue, that's 10-15 clicks you need to do near every in game day, because coffe improves your money, there's no reason to not drink it.
Like - we don't want the game to play itself, we're playing porn games over over porn medias for a reason - but streamlining a few things, like giving the girls work, and navigating would be good. Perhaps for internal locations, like cafe + other rooms as they become available, a nav bar across the top of the screen would be useful.
All that said - I enjoyed what was there so far, was looking forward to the update being released, and I'll be waiting for the next one.
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Hey, it's fine. Quality over quantity. And I'm not talking just CG quality. Your game as a unique style, and in the sea of games made with the 3 same 3D posing programs, that's actually a real breath of fresh air to see it.Hello, I am also glad to see you again. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to implement a lot of things in this version (I shouldn't have set myself deadlines), but I hope to catch up in the future.
Also, real life goes first, anyway.
Keep at it, don't let potential homophobic comments get you down. You got something great and really intriguing going on with both the concept and the universe, and we look forward to see that you have in store for us.
Edit : Fuck me, so many typos and mistakes today...
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Lisa has 2 storylines of your choice. The choice happens when you talk to her about working (in version 0.1b I think you noticed a notification about this). Each storyline will contain its own unique events.
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This is definitely right up my alley although I do wish there was less mindless clicking. I wouldn't even call it grinding since I never felt gated by money really. I just needed to click 'Laptop->Write article->Laptop->Write Article->Laptop-Write Article->Bedroom Door->Bed->Check the girls in the morning for new convesations/assign work->Loop' a bit too often. Hopefully in the future there will be a "work til something happens or the end of day" button, a way to not need to tell the girls to do the work each day (ideally they should do that until told to stop), and some way to know when a new conversation is available.
The stories themselves are enjoyable, the bees are all cute (though I will say, I thought Maria said they had been created with both sets of genitals to make them the perfect lovers, but really it seems like they all only have a penis and boobs instead), and I like that there's multiple routes (though I hope we don't get too many possible routes, branching this early means a whole lot of replaying, but if the above issues are solved that won't be too bad either). Great work.
The stories themselves are enjoyable, the bees are all cute (though I will say, I thought Maria said they had been created with both sets of genitals to make them the perfect lovers, but really it seems like they all only have a penis and boobs instead), and I like that there's multiple routes (though I hope we don't get too many possible routes, branching this early means a whole lot of replaying, but if the above issues are solved that won't be too bad either). Great work.