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Nowaru

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Do we have a separate thread on the topic?
Yes, for a while now seeing that it's already at 90 pages or so. Last few pages should have the links if you need to dl the Repack. Overall it's pretty fun, character creation is more or less identical to HC, but there's an actual game this time around.
 
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SquidLord69

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Yes, for a while now seeing that it's already at 90 pages or so. Last few pages should have the links if you need to dl the Repack. Overall it's pretty fun, character creation is more or less identical to HC, but there's an actual game this time around.
It's under Discussion, not Adult Games. That's why nobody can find it. I think now that there is a proper release someone should make a Game Games thread for prosperity.
 

jackkhovv

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anyone know a way to render screenshots above native resolution in DC? as far as I can tell the screenshot upscaler plugin form KK has not been ported over. it sucks, I actually like HC's character models a lot more, but I can't take high-res screenshots of it.
 

justaplayer69

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Illgames is actually Illusion, they simply renamed the company.
Nope, legally they are not the same, even though you're right, technically it was just a rename. But in the eyes of courts, Illusion ended without a legal successor, and Illgames owns none of their IPs whatsoever. (Meaning KK, KKS, HS, HS2, RG etc. are now free to use, there's no legal entity to sue you, Illusion is no more and Illgames has no copyright save HC).

The difference between renaming and ending+starting anew company is slim, but legally very very important (inheriting IPs and copyrights or not).
 
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aboba54

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Nope, legally they are not the same, even though you're right, technically it was just a rename. But in the eyes of courts, Illusion ended without a legal successor, and Illgames owns none of their IPs whatsoever. (Meaning KK, KKS, HS, HS2, RG etc. are now free to use, there's no legal entity to sue you, Illusion is no more and Illgames has no copyright save HC).

The difference between renaming and ending+starting anew company is slim, but legally very very important (inheriting IPs and copyrights or not).
Their IPs are not public. According to the Japanese laws, the ownership belongs to the creator of the product. You still can get sued for copyright violation. Moreover, we don't know the current legal status of Illusion because there are no public registries.
 

justaplayer69

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Their IPs are not public. According to the Japanese laws, the ownership belongs to the creator of the product.
That's not just Japanese laws, that's the law worldwide, but...
You still can get sued for copyright violation.
...by whom?
Moreover, we don't know the current legal status of Illusion because there are no public registries.
Not entirely true. We do know that people that worked for Illusion are now working at IllGames, and we also do know that IllGames made an official statement that they are legally not affiliated with Illusion in any way.

So while in theory they could sue, in practice there's no legal entity to do that. Not that they cared too much about Koikatsu modders while they still had the chance, tbh. so it is unlikely that they will make some kind of legal comeback just to force copyright claims on court. Not entirely impossible, but highly unlikely.

On the other hand, Honeycome (and Summer Vacation! Scramble) is a different matter, because IllGames owns those copyrights and they are a very much a valid and kicking legal entity that can go to court anytime.
 
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That's not just Japanese laws, that's the law worldwide, but...
...by whom?
Not entirely true. We do know that people that worked for Illusion are now working at IllGames, and we also do know that IllGames made an official statement that they are legally not affiliated with Illusion in any way.

So while in theory they could sue, in practice there's no legal entity to do that. Not that they cared too much about Koikatsu modders while they still had the chance, tbh. so it is unlikely that they will make some kind of legal comeback just to force copyright claims on court. Not entirely impossible, but highly unlikely.

On the other hand, Honeycome (and Summer Vacation! Scramble) is a different matter, because IllGames owns those copyrights and they are a very much a valid and kicking legal entity that can go to court anytime.
They must of not really cared that much about pursuing legal action, because look at the amount of people using Koikatsu and Honey Select 2 to make visual novels and selling them on Patreon, etc.
 

aboba54

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...by whom?
By the game producer or some other Illusion staff member that can hold the rights as a creator of the product.

Not entirely true. We do know that people that worked for Illusion are now working at IllGames, and we also do know that IllGames made an official statement that they are legally not affiliated with Illusion in any way.
So while in theory they could sue, in practice there's no legal entity to do that.
We don't know ILLUSION's status as a legal entity, no data desclosed. As for who can start a legal process, refer to the first answer.

Not that they cared too much about Koikatsu modders while they still had the chance, tbh. so it is unlikely that they will make some kind of legal comeback just to force copyright claims on court. Not entirely impossible, but highly unlikely.
If you (as legal company) try to release Illusion's game (keeping everything but Illusion mentions for example) as your own product, they might act
 

justaplayer69

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By the game producer or some other Illusion staff member that can hold the rights as a creator of the product.
Nope. Intellectual property created by Illusion belongs only to Illusion and nobody else (not even its staff).
An employee who used to work for Illusion creating these games, as an individual has no right to sue you, only the company could.
We don't know ILLUSION's status as a legal entity, no data desclosed.
Again, not true, lots of official statements were disclosed (can't link their old twitter as it went down since). See links:




And again, IllGames officially stated that it is not affiliated with Illusion in any way.
If you (as legal company) try to release Illusion's game
Why would anyone do that? We were talking about modding and ripping assets and using those in third party games. Illusion (while it was still operating) could have, but never sued anybody for that.

Remember, the staff deliberately haven't just renamed the old company, instead they went through with this shutdown/startanew mess to cut all ties with their old IPs.
 

zeolay

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Does anyone have that they are willing to share and does it work with for HoneyCome?
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