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raixen

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I personally don't even feel anything when looking at this. best way to do avoid that feeling is keep yourself and the main character of this story separate. doing so makes it really easy to enjoy it more (at least for me anyways.)
Oh I personally enjoy it. But I also know how to separate fiction from real life and am sure many others do as well. You will however have a few who can't and they also end up being the loudest (despite the option to not play or read through such games and the abundance of harem based content on this site)
 

MrWally

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Oh I personally enjoy it. But I also know how to separate fiction from real life and am sure many others do as well. You will however have a few who can't and they also end up being the loudest (despite the option to not play or read through such games and the abundance of harem based content on this site)
Same. But storywise it's easier then using pics. So for most of his game i would extend the text and pics, because it's a lot of repeat with to short stories
 

raixen

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Same. But storywise it's easier then using pics. So for most of his game i would extend the text and pics, because it's a lot of repeat with to short stories
Ya. There aren't enough images rendered so it doesn't match what's on the text and can also be awkward. It's a fault of the VN design though. The gold standard would be somethign like DeLuca Family. It has so many rendered images for even minor details. But I doubt the author of this game/VN would put in that kind of effort.
 

gplegendary

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I downloaded it on my windows pc, but it doesn't work. I keep clicking on the application but it doesn't open . Any help guys ?

( My pc has no problems BTW it's perfectly fine )
 

Notretsam

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doesn't appear so, the last update I see on Patreon is pausing payments, that was on August 30th and nothing since.

Their website doesn't even have the most recent chapter listed, appears it only goes up to 7.

All in all, it doesn't seem encouraging at all really.
 

Ob Nixillis

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Also their payment model is kinda fucky. They want a large sum up front for all their games instead of a much more appealing option for smaller sums for each game.
 

pearlo

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The dev's last post was august 30, when he was pausing payments 'just in case...'.
I wouldn't count on an update this year and I expect an 'abandoned' tag coming in february.
 

Notretsam

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Feel like someone else could take this idea or one of the ideas from the many other VN's Kirsess did and run with it in there own VN, some good ideas between them all that can certainly be combined into a decent length kinetic novel.
 
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REGUser

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Feel like someone else could take this idea or one of the ideas from the many other VN's Kirsess did and run with it in there own VN, some good ideas between them all that can certainly be combined into a decent length kinetic novel.
His best were definitely "Mom is a Model" and "Cool Mom Sofia" I've said before he should just focus on them, the rest are garbage with hardly any renders and just background shots with dialogue on them and he demands money for such minimal effort. I don't even care if there's no animations here but he was charging a whole bunch just for the collection despite there being hardly anything per update.

If he stops being greedy and focus on getting a solid game out first then maybe fans are more inclined to spend, asking for the latest 3090 RTX GPU for this piece of crap is a bit much and people can see right through that. I can make this game on my 8 year old laptop, lets stop pretending it takes you a month to make and lets start grinding and getting work done before begging people for money @Kirsses.
 

Notretsam

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His best were definitely "Mom is a Model" and "Cool Mom Sofia" I've said before he should just focus on them, the rest are garbage with hardly any renders and just background shots with dialogue on them and he demands money for such minimal effort. I don't even care if there's no animations here but he was charging a whole bunch just for the collection despite there being hardly anything per update.

If he stops being greedy and focus on getting a solid game out first then maybe fans are more inclined to spend, asking for the latest 3090 RTX GPU for this piece of crap is a bit much and people can see right through that. I can make this game on my 8 year old laptop, lets stop pretending it takes you a month to make and lets start grinding and getting work done before begging people for money @Kirsses.
It actually can take over a month to make and you will find there is no way you can make this on an 8-year-old laptop in a month, I can pretty much guarantee that from experience.

However, it does look bad on the developer, especially since this has now been abandoned and I'm going assume the other ones that are currently still active will be abandoned soon as well.

On a side note, my fave was Mom is a Meteorologist which was completed, it was the first one I saw, this one was tough to fully buy into as the MC had a girlfriend and I found it hard to believe he would have a girlfriend.
 

Slappy Kinkaid

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To be fair & to clarify, if the MC were her husband, I'd still think it's fucked up & I wouldn't enjoy it, but I wouldn't have any particular problem with it. It's the fact that it's her SON that she's abusing like this & the fact that his demeanor shows that this has been the norm his whole life, THAT'S what pissed me off. THAT is where the line was crossed.
 

Slappy Kinkaid

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Well, if I had to make some sort of armchair psychiatrist opinion, I'd first look to see if they also comment on other games that have tags/themes/genres they don't like. Let's say "gay". If they comment on a gay game that they don't like gay games, then they just like having people read their opinions. However, if they make a point to come into every NTR thread that comes along and say they don't like it, then that's likely "reaction formation" and they're trying to reinforce their own denial of excitement by signaling to others. In other words, the only people they're trying to convince are themselves.
Overall I'd say that's pretty accurate. I don't think I fall into that category because I tend to float all over the place on here because I've found pretty damn good games of all kinds of different genres. Typically, I don't even play to fap, but for the enjoyment of the game itself. So that all said, While most of the hate this game gets likely falls into your description, not all of it does. I for one stumbled across it on another site & frankly I despise it. Though the reason I hate it isn't because of fetish mismatches or anything like that, it's because, to me, it seems less about the NTR content it's displayed as & more about the fetishization of child abuse, as the MC is clearly the product of being raised the same way he's being treated in the game. Child abuse is one of those things that makes me go from zero to murderous rampage immediately.
 

Slappy Kinkaid

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Rewriting this again for berevity & clarity. Though this type of game isn't my cup of tea, I have no issue with NTR, I'm not intending to kink shame, & to keep things on topic, I'll leave my opinions on the quality of the game out of this.

My issue with the game is it is very heavy on child abuse. Now maybe that was completely unintentional on the dev's part, but by choosing the woman's son as the MC & as the person to be the "weak, wimpy beta" male to be cucked, abused & degraded, That makes it child abuse.

& before anyone says "excuse me, he's 18. He's an adult, therefore it isn't child abuse". Actually, yes it is. With how broken & lacking in any self worth & self esteem the MC is presented as, clearly the way she treats him in this game would logically be how she treated him as a child.

"Well ok, in trying to push the kink, maybe he accidentially went into territory that could be read as child abuse. So what? Why is it a big deal?" First of all, It couldn't be "potentially read as child abuse", it absolutely is child abuse. Her attitude & behavior towards her own child is beyond appalling, especially in contrast to what it SHOULD be. Secondly, why is it a big deal? Why does rule 7 ban any CP like content? Why does creating or possessing CP get you sent to prison when all other porn is completely legal? Why does, for most people, the thought of a man beating his child illicit so much more vitriol & anger than if he were to beat his wife? It's because almost all of society agrees DO NOT HARM CHILDREN.

So if I were to give the dev some constructive criticism, I'd say you're better off rewriting these as the MC observing his mother cucking his dad. By putting the MC as the cucked character, whether you intended to or not, you turned this into a child abuse kink piece.
 
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Manifold

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He was decent enough to freeze payments from his patrons on Patreon as soon as he stopped delivering (and before the "abandoned" tag was added here on F95 for his games).

You might see he still has some support on his patreon page, but AFAIK they're not paying anything anymore.

Yeah, his games had many flaws (too few renders, etc.) but they were original and completely wacko. And I really would have loved to see more of his more "temperate" story "My mother is a model", it was a slow burn compared to the others but the story had more depth to it.

Who knows, maybe he'll be back eventually.
 
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