VN Ren'Py Hot Property [v0.2.0] [Hematite]

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HematiteDev

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I always find it rather curious to read the criticism aimed at AI-generated animations. Until just a few months ago, it was unthinkable for us developers to produce quality animations without facing endless production times. Today, however, it’s possible to create scenes lasting several minutes with relatively little effort.
And, in many cases, the quality is even superior to that of animations made in Daz Studio.
So why all the objections? Because they aren’t “real”? Because AI supposedly takes work away from artists? Or perhaps simply because criticizing anything made with AI has become a trendy attitude?
 

gregers

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I always find it rather curious to read the criticism aimed at AI-generated animations. Until just a few months ago, it was unthinkable for us developers to produce quality animations without facing endless production times. Today, however, it’s possible to create scenes lasting several minutes with relatively little effort.
And, in many cases, the quality is even superior to that of animations made in Daz Studio.
So why all the objections? Because they aren’t “real”? Because AI supposedly takes work away from artists? Or perhaps simply because criticizing anything made with AI has become a trendy attitude?
Or because they look like shit. It's a mystery.
 

Eleanorduval

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I encountered no lesbian scenes, but depending on your choices, I'm sure it would play out differently. For what it's worth, I only liked Amber.

Interesting start.
Ah I see u rejected sex with the two police women,but u get nothing if u do it (I didn’t play last update).
 

HematiteDev

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Or because they look like shit. It's a mystery.
If they look like that to you, fair enough. Tastes differ.
What I find curious is that people rarely criticize the years of stiff, awkward Daz animations with the same intensity.
AI isn’t perfect, but it finally allows small developers to create things that were simply impossible before.
Some see that progress and others prefer to focus on the flaws. Both approaches are valid — just not equally constructive.
 

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Not sure if I am the only one who is not exactly happy with the current amount of content for this latest update, but there was almost none for me. Are there particular choices you have had to make to actually get more content like the more "corrupt" playthrough?
 

Larry2000

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I always find it rather curious to read the criticism aimed at AI-generated animations. Until just a few months ago, it was unthinkable for us developers to produce quality animations without facing endless production times. Today, however, it’s possible to create scenes lasting several minutes with relatively little effort.
And, in many cases, the quality is even superior to that of animations made in Daz Studio.
So why all the objections? Because they aren’t “real”? Because AI supposedly takes work away from artists? Or perhaps simply because criticizing anything made with AI has become a trendy attitude?
As a developer myself, though not one that focuses on creating renders/visual effects (so feel free to strike that against me), I personally don't look at it as bubbly as you do.

To the other persons response, it doesn't just look bad, it's textbook uncanny valley. What I've seen in AI tech is for people to avoid doing hard work in order to achieve easy results. Now, I may be speaking out my ass as I already admitted that I don't make animations, but I also don't hold my artist friends and those I work with on the visual aspect to the same regards as AI.

When I consume work from a human, I like human results. I don't care if your art (generally speaking) is basically stick figure quality, if you made it, it has value. Having an infinite rack of servers do the work for you doesn't have the same affect to me (sorry if it sounds like I'm being reductive, I just really hate AI).

If they look like that to you, fair enough. Tastes differ.
What I find curious is that people rarely criticize the years of stiff, awkward Daz animations with the same intensity.
You say "stiff, awkward Daz animations" I call it learning. You need to make decisions to learn. AI cookie cuts everything into an amalgamation of thousands of artists work into one in a worst case scenario. In the case specifically of animation, it smudges made up life into your renders. Working hard to figure out the kinks in a process is the most rewarding part. I'm not saying AI can't help to eliminate mundane tasks in the future, but to let an AI CREATE for you, is where I draw the line.

Bottom line, any creator should be proud of what they create regardless of their result. You shouldn't need to take shortcuts to show your worth. You've already made a game that I assume didn't have AI right? You should be incredibly proud of that. From my understanding from my memory, people didn't have a problem with the animations or the art on that game. The only part they did have a problem with was the plot. Which is human. It's your direct impact. So no need for AI in my opinion.

Lastly, to be frank, that smile in the previews made me ill. Please fix it or drown the animation in the nearest lake D:

If any of my comment made you feel bad or offended, I understand, but it's not my intention at all. It's just hard to see a person that was already doing well use AI "overnight" in my view. If you want to talk about any of this in-depth, feel free to send a message privately :)
 

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I always find it rather curious to read the criticism aimed at AI-generated animations. Until just a few months ago, it was unthinkable for us developers to produce quality animations without facing endless production times. Today, however, it’s possible to create scenes lasting several minutes with relatively little effort.
And, in many cases, the quality is even superior to that of animations made in Daz Studio.
So why all the objections? Because they aren’t “real”? Because AI supposedly takes work away from artists? Or perhaps simply because criticizing anything made with AI has become a trendy attitude?
Yeah I'll be honest, I was expecting a lot of :love: comments towards the gif. I see nothing wrong with it and I like it.

It's definitely trendy but not entirely because without real art, A.I can't come up with anything. That's the consensus anyway. A.I has to steal and mash up already created ART and some people have a rigid worldview of it.

even if A.I is used to ENHANCE real art, it's unacceptable to some.
 

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You were forced by those platforms to remove all violent and gory content, and then make comedies.
a......
overall, lost soul but quality still great.

I always find it rather curious to read the criticism aimed at AI-generated animations. Until just a few months ago, it was unthinkable for us developers to produce quality animations without facing endless production times. Today, however, it’s possible to create scenes lasting several minutes with relatively little effort.
And, in many cases, the quality is even superior to that of animations made in Daz Studio.
So why all the objections? Because they aren’t “real”? Because AI supposedly takes work away from artists? Or perhaps simply because criticizing anything made with AI has become a trendy attitude?
Whether people accept it or not, times will change. It's just a matter of different people's ability to accept it.
 

Pgsurprise

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Yeah I'll be honest, I was expecting a lot of :love: comments towards the gif. I see nothing wrong with it and I like it.

It's definitely trendy but not entirely because without real art, A.I can't come up with anything. That's the consensus anyway. A.I has to steal and mash up already created ART and some people have a rigid worldview of it.

even if A.I is used to ENHANCE real art, it's unacceptable to some.
If they changed it to have the artists opt in for their works to be used then my ethical objections will go away. There are lawsuits, in the USA at least, about that. It'll be interesting how that turns out.
 
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Pgsurprise

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Yeah I'll be honest, I was expecting a lot of :love: comments towards the gif. I see nothing wrong with it and I like it.

It's definitely trendy but not entirely because without real art, A.I can't come up with anything. That's the consensus anyway. A.I has to steal and mash up already created ART and some people have a rigid worldview of it.

even if A.I is used to ENHANCE real art, it's unacceptable to some.
If they changed it to have the artists opt in for their works to be used then my ethical objections will go away. There are lawsuits, in the USA at least, about that. It'll be interesting how that turns out.
 

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It requires a mod or a built-in walkthrough. There are too many options that affect the story and unlock screen.
 
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monksims

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Typo in a variable name:
Code:
While running game code:
  File "game/script/sc_06.rpy", line 510, in script
    if sc_06_3 == 2:
  File "game/script/sc_06.rpy", line 510, in <module>
    if sc_06_3 == 2:
       ^^^^^^^    
NameError: name 'sc_06_3' is not defined. Did you mean: 'sc_06_03'?
I fixed it for myself already but it's weird that a typo like that exists. Any full playthrough would have caught it in testing. Because I haven't played any previous versions of this VN, I have no idea when this line was added to it.

By the way, if I needed a variable with only TWO states, I'd use a simple boolean True/False instead of integers like 1/2. That way if statements are too easy to write:
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