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Do you like the Human or Demon route more?

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BiggestDickest

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their tits are a bit small to milk them alot....
Honestly, the only reason for "small" tits is appearance. I like small tits. In fact, tits like Eveline's are already huge by my standard. I understand everyone asking for big tits are also after their appearance, because you guys like big tits. But I want to make girls that are attractive by my standard.

On a side note, in terms of the volume of milk produced, I actually looked up the average amount of milk a human and a cow produce. As it turns out, according to the numbers I found anyway, a woman produces on average 1 litre of milk per day, while a cow produces on average 4-60 litres of milk per day. So, on the lower end of the spectrum, you just need 4 women to replace 1 cow! In addition to that, in the UK, sometimes cow is used to insult women. Maybe the women there produce as much milk as a cow? Who knows? :)
 
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Honestly, the only reason for "small" tits is appearance. I like small tits. In fact, tits like Eveline's are already huge by my standard. I understand everyone asking for big tits are also after their appearance, because you guys like big tits. But I want to make girls that are attractive by my standard.

On a side note, in terms of the volume of milk produced, I actually looked up the average amount of milk a human and a cow produce. As it turns out, according to the numbers I found anyway, a woman produces on average 1 litre of milk per day, while a cow produces on average 4-60 litres of milk per day. So, on the lower end of the spectrum, you just need 4 women to replace 1 cow! In addition to that, in the UK, sometimes cow is used to insult women. Maybe the women there produce as much milk as a cow? Who knows? :)
i understand, i just can't play a game that has women who look like they are still in puberty. good luck with your game though.
 

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i understand, i just can't play a game that has women who look like they are still in puberty. good luck with your game though.
I appreciate your respect, but honestly, the women in my game certainly look fully grown, whether in height or tit size. If we are talking about women in puberty, they are loli. Games like Personal Assistant, Summer Camp, 23 Sisters have loli. The women in my game certainly don't look like those. And the tit size of the women in my game aren't really small. I mean, there are fully grown women in real life with AAA or AA cups. My girls have A-C cups. That's like the average boob size in real life.
 

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I appreciate your respect, but honestly, the women in my game certainly look fully grown, whether in height or tit size. If we are talking about women in puberty, they are loli. Games like Personal Assistant, Summer Camp, 23 Sisters have loli. The women in my game certainly don't look like those. And the tit size of the women in my game aren't really small. I mean, there are fully grown women in real life with AAA or AA cups. My girls have A-C cups. That's like the average boob size in real life.
Yeah that's just ridiculous. I would much prefer for the girls to be significantly bigger myself, but to say that they don't look like grown women? Ridiculous, and makes me question if this person has only seen women in porn.
 

torgpolariski

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I appreciate your respect, but honestly, the women in my game certainly look fully grown, whether in height or tit size. If we are talking about women in puberty, they are loli. Games like Personal Assistant, Summer Camp, 23 Sisters have loli. The women in my game certainly don't look like those. And the tit size of the women in my game aren't really small. I mean, there are fully grown women in real life with AAA or AA cups. My girls have A-C cups. That's like the average boob size in real life.
"I mean..... fantasy is ALWAYS better than reality, yeah?"
average is generally boring, and most all the girls i've been with had big chests, and butts. i can't stand looking at girls who look like they're from the 1970's...
anyway, good luck.
 

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"I mean..... fantasy is ALWAYS better than reality, yeah?"
average is generally boring, and most all the girls i've been with had big chests, and butts. i can't stand looking at girls who look like they're from the 1970's...
anyway, good luck.
Well, not everyone would agree with that statement. I mean, a lot of people say there are too many fantastical elements in my game. To some people, even the girls in this game look fantastical or exotic. It depends on your experience in real life. What is common in one part of the world might not be common in another part. I'm not facepalming you, just explaining that there are people like me that like small tits.
 
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Well, I just watched a video on something called the Waco Siege. Never heard of it before. What surprised me the most is its background. I thought I wrote the most ridiculous story ever for Human Dairy Farm. I never thought that something similar actually happened in real life.

So, one party of this siege is a bunch of Christians called Branch Davidians. Their leader David Koresh ordered all the women to be his wives, and married couples were separated, and they complied. The women were even desperate to be chosen to be fucked. In the end, he fathered dozens of children with them. They were living secretly in a remote area until they were discovered, not a farm but something like a church I think.

Well, despite the whole thing ending in a tragedy, it's funny how ridiculous people can be. Maybe it's not so unrealistic that the MC in Human Dairy Farm can kidnap lots of women without being discovered. Who knows?
 

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Well, I just watched a video on something called the Waco Siege. Never heard of it before.
Ah Waco, it's like a drop in the bucket that is crazy shit Americans do to each other.

Middle America is even crazier with the Mormon churches being like mini cults sometimes.

We aren't so populated that there aren't places in America where you have small towns that haven't seen real growth in decades.
 
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BiggestDickest

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Ah Waco, it's like a drop in the bucket that is crazy shit Americans do to each other.

Middle America is even crazier with the Mormon churches being like mini cults sometimes.

We aren't so populated that there aren't places in America where you have small towns that haven't seen real growth in decades.
Well there was something similar in South Korea a while ago, . They are pretty densely populated, still have these things happening.

Not sure what's the deal with cults. Like, what's in the mind of the followers?

But yeah, cults. I do sometimes hear about them in America. The funny thing is, some of these cults aren't small churches. I mean Mormon is pretty famous. It's funny how churches became associated with these things. I mean, churches in Europe have their scandals but, not on this scale as far as I know.
 

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Well there was something similar in South Korea a while ago, . They are pretty densely populated, still have these things happening.

Not sure what's the deal with cults. Like, what's in the mind of the followers?

But yeah, cults. I do sometimes hear about them in America. The funny thing is, some of these cults aren't small churches. I mean Mormon is pretty famous. It's funny how churches became associated with these things. I mean, churches in Europe have their scandals but, not on this scale as far as I know.
Humans are hard wired to believe in something greater than themselves and stability.

Promise them spirtual awakenings or absolution from terrible things they believe they've done and poof, easy makings for a cult.

Maybe the MC needs to start his own :unsure:

With Holy water Milk of course :unsure:
 

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Humans are hard wired to believe in something greater than themselves and stability.

Promise them spirtual awakenings or absolution from terrible things they believe they've done and poof, easy makings for a cult.

Maybe the MC needs to start his own :unsure:

With Holy water Milk of course :unsure:
Hehe. Well, yeah, now that I think of it, the whole premise of the game is a bit like a cult, except that the MC straight up kidnaps women instead of tricking them into following him. But he does have his own philosophies and morality, which is kinda what those cult leaders often do. That is indeed part of the story going forward. That is going to be his future interactions with the captured girls, to play into their beliefs to convince them his actions are right. Now that I think of it, this is very much a cult story. I didn't even realise that. But don't worry, this is more than just that. I actually draw most of the philosophies in the game from history, and, emperors and conquerors are not just cult leaders.
 
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A long long time ago, I wrote my first piece of erotic novel, but the reception for it was so overwhelmingly negative, that I never made anything erotic ever since, until I discovered this forums. Well, might as well put all my eggs in one basket. It was after all a part of my youth. In a lot of ways, it resembles the VNs here with broken English. It's not that broken, but it's certainly not up to the standard of a novel either. Anyways, here it is if anyone is interested in a little reading while they wait for the next update.
 
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As a person totally *not* into lactation, rape or maledom - i.e. all the main fetishes of the game - I find this dark masterpiece unusually captivating and immersive.
Also it is one of the rare non-cliche VNs that I've stopped clicking through and actually started reading the text.
Thank you for finding time and resolve to make this and share with us.
 
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As a person totally *not* into lactation, rape or maledom
I'm surprised you downloaded the game at all XD. Let me guess, you are into pregnancy or incest? If so, those 2 are also one of the main fetishes of this game.

Thank you. I really appreciate it when people like the story. I think it is the meat of this game. I actually find the sex scenes lacklustre in comparison, not that I want them to be, but because I don't know how to improve them. But yeah, the story is where most of my focus is. And I often have to make compromises on skipping parts of the planned story because some renders are too troublesome or impossible to make with the available assets. If I was just writing a novel without all the other accompaniments, I think the story would be even better.
 

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I'm surprised you downloaded the game at all XD. Let me guess, you are into pregnancy or incest? If so, those 2 are also one of the main fetishes of this game.
Harem and Incest to be precise, and then I usually ignore all those games with luxury apartments & pristine Daz-next-door dolls lol.
(And yes, sorry, Incest/Pregnancy/Harem are definitely main fetishes as well).

And I often have to make compromises on skipping parts of the planned story because some renders are too troublesome or impossible to make with the available assets.
That's really sad. But I also understand the risks of adding a badly done scene, or not having visuals at all. I mean, you've developed a certain style already, and deviating from this mainline would likely affect the storytelling. Which has been wholesome and atmospheric so far.
 

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That's really sad. But I also understand the risks of adding a badly done scene, or not having visuals at all. I mean, you've developed a certain style already, and deviating from this mainline would likely affect the storytelling. Which has been wholesome and atmospheric so far.
Well, sometimes it's just because I don't know how to manifest the images in my mind. There are very few tutorials on using Daz3d, and the few that exist are on very basic things, so it's up to every artist to discover how to achieve certain effects. I have seen other games where the art is really impressive, but they are using the same Daz3d as I do. Certainly they have a much better understanding of the software. I feel like I'm at my limit. I haven't seen much improvement in my recent works.

If it were up to me, I'd have volumetric light in every scene because it's just so cinematic, but it takes too long to render in Daz3d. It'd be possible in Unreal Engine. When it comes to lighting, I keep cutting corners to reduce render time. If you look at other games, often there's light coming from everywhere, so you can see different colours, or soft shadows and so on, but again that requires a very long render time. I'm not sure if their computers are really that much more powerful than mine, but in my case, it just isn't worth it. I may still be making chapter 1 if I was making renders like that.

There are scenes where I have sort of imagined how the environment would look like, and I searched everywhere for similar assets, but I just couldn't find one that matched my imagination. In some ways, this is like using real porn images to make a game. What I'm really doing is putting together things that were made independent of each other, that were not designed for my ideas. The result is like a really low budget movie that is made by throwing all these different clips together.

Daz, although there are tons of assets for it, most of them are geared towards certain themes. I think that is one of the reasons why most games are so similar. Let's say if I wanted to make a game set in Ancient China, maybe I can find one or two environments, and that's it, but the game would be extremely boring if you have only two environments. It's the same for my game. I want to show how the farm looks like from the outside. I want to show that the MC uses milk for various purposes. I want to show milk running down his chin, but there just aren't such assets. Lactation is one of the main themes of this game, but there are only 3 milk squirts assets I am satisfied with. It's just impossible to make this game without the visuals getting repetitive.
 

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If it were up to me, I'd have volumetric light in every scene because it's just so cinematic, but it takes too long to render in Daz3d. It'd be possible in Unreal Engine. When it comes to lighting, I keep cutting corners to reduce render time. If you look at other games, often there's light coming from everywhere, so you can see different colours, or soft shadows and so on, but again that requires a very long render time. I'm not sure if their computers are really that much more powerful than mine, but in my case, it just isn't worth it. I may still be making chapter 1 if I was making renders like that.
Are you using denoising? If not, learn denoising.
First image is without denoising, second image is denoised with OIDN, same number of samples.
50-samples-raw.jpg 50-samples-oidn.jpg
 

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Are you using denoising? If not, learn denoising.
First image is without denoising, second image is denoised with OIDN, same number of samples.
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I have been using denoising since I was making fan arts for Vae Victis. That's why you don't see any noise in my renders. However, even with denoising, the quality or the sharpness of the renders are still affected by the convergence rate. When you add volumetrics to the scene, it takes very long to reach a high convergence rate. You can just use the denoiser at a relatively low sample or convergence rate, but that will make everything very blurry. It is still a problem in my renders. Some look quite crisp because it doesn't take long to reach a high convergence rate in some scenes, whereas in scenes like the milk tea shop, where there are lots of reflective surfaces, I just used renders with a low convergence rate.

Edit: I should have mentioned the denoiser I use is the default one that comes with Iray. I read that only it has access to depth information, because you have the entire scene open with it, whereas other denoisers can only work on the image as just a flat surface.
 
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