VN Ren'Py Completed Human Dairy Farm [v0.6] [BiggestDickest]

[A Fox In a Dress Suit]

So there will be a remake with another engine or this is the goodbye?

 

[BiggestDickest]

So there will be a remake with another engine or this is the goodbye?

I wouldn't call my next game a remake, but it will feature one or a few of the themes of this game because pretty much all the themes I find hot are in this game. It will be smaller in scope, so I won't run into the same problems I had in this game.

 

[kinkybastard]

I wouldn't call my next game a remake, but it will feature one or a few of the themes of this game because pretty much all the themes I find hot are in this game. It will be smaller in scope, so I won't run into the same problems I had in this game.

well good luck anyway, if you need any creative input, or a ccouple of lines of dialogue, i'm sure the pervies here in the zone will be happy to help you out!
also, maybe it wasn't the scope of the game that broke this project but the limitations in visualization, so my recommendation, start with a small framework and expand, some games have grown quite impressively over time.

and now go ahead and amaze us!

 

[Degen003]

abandoned, this is not an ,,ending''

 

[taler]

Anyone else recommend some other games like this? Not dairy but literally everything else about the game was perfect to me.

I like the villain protag who doesn't feel guilty, the maledom etc.

 

[killed_kaykay]

It is a rushed ending, sorry. About why I rushed it, there are many reasons, but in short I am not able to continue making it like I did in the previous updates. The difficulty in making lactation content is one of the major reasons. Needless to say, lactation is one of the main themes of this game, since it is literally called Human Dairy Farm, but Daz3d severely lacks resources that I can use to make lactation content. Really, the only assets there are are just static props that look like milk squirting out or flowing down the girl's chest. I have already used the same assets repeatedly in multiple sex scenes and already I'm frustrated by how limiting it is. For example, I can't make milk flowing down the MC's chin, or milk on his chest or dick, or on any other objects such as a cup, bottle, tube. I can't deliver what I find erotic in lactation porn any more than what I have already made.

There are also other story elements related to lactation I wanted to make, yet I couldn't because of the lack of resources. I wanted to expand the dairy farm for example, or even to build a dairy plant. There are no such assets in Daz3d. I couldn't even show the exterior of the farm because I couldn't even load the only farm asset in Daz3d that is extremely poorly optimised. And then there are other dairy products such as butter, cheese, yogurt, ice cream that I want to show as part of the story progression of how the MC expands his dairy business, but once again I can't. Maybe someone will say, "These aren't important. I can continue making the game without these." Well I disagree if someone makes such an argument, because then this game would lose one of its core themes, not to mention there are other problems I ran into while making this game. So, trust me, I'm as disappointed as you guys in failing to deliver this game to its fullest. It's actually even more frustrating for me because I have really really tried many alternatives before coming to this conclusion. It's not that I don't want to, it's that I can't.

You can use Honey select, but have to do all from start again

 

[BiggestDickest]

You can use Honey select, but have to do all from start again

No, Honey Select is even more limited.

 

[taler]

No, Honey Select is even more limited.

Use AI

 

[BiggestDickest]

Use AI

I have been trying but, currently it's very hard to tell a story using AI art.

 

[Black_Prince]

very very extremely disappointing for me as well, was one of my favorites in topics (the hucow topic is quite unique, love it!) concerning hucow, (forced) impregnation, pregnancy, incest, slavery / prisoning, maledom, so this is truly a big lost, because there is nothing comparable afaik... such a pity!

Edit: Please don't give it up, just put it on the side and keep eyes and ears open, maybe you find a working solution some time later... I would suggest, to tag it "on hold" instead of completed/abandoned, also because it is clearly also a heart project from you as it sounds?

 

[BiggestDickest]

very very extremely disappointing for me as well, was one of my favorites in topics (the hucow topic is quite unique, love it!) concerning hucow, (forced) impregnation, pregnancy, incest, slavery / prisoning, maledom, so this is truly a big lost, because there is nothing comparable afaik... such a pity!

Edit: Please don't give it up, just put it on the side and keep eyes and ears open, maybe you find a working solution some time later... I would suggest, to tag it "on hold" instead of completed/abandoned, also because it is clearly also a heart project from you as it sounds?

Well, I left an open ending to this game for the exact reason that I may come back to it when I have better tools. Honestly I don't think that's too far from now because lots of art tools are getting updates. Blender is going to release 4.1 which will make its real-time render engine, Eevee, far more usable. There will be more Daz assets coming out. AI is advancing fast.

 

[Black_Prince]

Sounds at least a little bit promising... enough to let my hope survive ;-)

what about this? I know it has a different look... I don't have knowledge about daz at and engines and all that stuff, but at least the topic matches and it shows how desperate I try to help you to overcome this obstacle Lactation-Kit for DS and G8F

 

[BiggestDickest]

Sounds at least a little bit promising... enough to let my hope survive ;-)

what about this? I know it has a different look... I don't have knowledge about daz at and engines and all that stuff, but at least the topic matches and it shows how desperate I try to help you to overcome this obstacle Lactation-Kit for DS and G8F

Hehe, I am aware of that asset. I have also wanted to make a scene like that, with many women lined up for milking. But that brings us back to one of my first problems. My computer cannot handle that. Now I tried to do something similar for my cover art, but I cheated a lot making that one. They were the same character with different hair and skin colours. Now you may not understand what I'm talking about because this is a bit technical. In short, having many different characters in the same scene requires a powerful computer. While there are ways to lower that requirement, they are extremely labour intensive. I had to do it even for scenes with 3 characters, and it was very painful to do that. If I only need to do that once for a poster or a cover art, that's okay. But when I need to do that dozens of time for every scene, it's really painful.

I hate this, because art in real life can be something as cheap as drawing with a pencil. But in digital art, everything is extremely expensive. A drawing tablet is expensive. The hardware requirements for using softwares like Daz3d or Blender are extremely high and expensive. I just tried loading a basement environment in Daz3d, and the environment alone exceeded what my computer can handle. It's just so retarded. It's like the artist that made that environment expected everyone to have RTX 4090. And you can't just have RTX 4090 even if you can afford it. Your other hardware needs to be able to run with it.

Well, to be fair, if you look at the official renders of Daz3d, you'll always just see one character. It's not really meant to have many characters in one scene. But people using Daz3d have been pushing the limits, and well that became the expectation, but not everyone has such hardware. It's not like drawing an extra character on a piece of paper.

 

[TwinSideWings]

At least you are giving this to rest; being honest about not continuing

 

[taler]

Hehe, I am aware of that asset. I have also wanted to make a scene like that, with many women lined up for milking. But that brings us back to one of my first problems. My computer cannot handle that. Now I tried to do something similar for my cover art, but I cheated a lot making that one. They were the same character with different hair and skin colours. Now you may not understand what I'm talking about because this is a bit technical. In short, having many different characters in the same scene requires a powerful computer. While there are ways to lower that requirement, they are extremely labour intensive. I had to do it even for scenes with 3 characters, and it was very painful to do that. If I only need to do that once for a poster or a cover art, that's okay. But when I need to do that dozens of time for every scene, it's really painful.

I hate this, because art in real life can be something as cheap as drawing with a pencil. But in digital art, everything is extremely expensive. A drawing tablet is expensive. The hardware requirements for using softwares like Daz3d or Blender are extremely high and expensive. I just tried loading a basement environment in Daz3d, and the environment alone exceeded what my computer can handle. It's just so retarded. It's like the artist that made that environment expected everyone to have RTX 4090. And you can't just have RTX 4090 even if you can afford it. Your other hardware needs to be able to run with it.

Well, to be fair, if you look at the official renders of Daz3d, you'll always just see one character. It's not really meant to have many characters in one scene. But people using Daz3d have been pushing the limits, and well that became the expectation, but not everyone has such hardware. It's not like drawing an extra character on a piece of paper.

Can you really not afford a 4090? What country are you from? And why is your patreon so cheap?

 

[BiggestDickest]

Can you really not afford a 4090? What country are you from? And why is your patreon so cheap?

No, I cannot afford a 4090. I don't really want to disclose where I am from after learning about the retarded outdated laws of my country. It's best that I don't draw the attention of my local authorities. Laws on porn can be very retarded in some countries. In Japan, it's illegal to distribute uncensored porn, hence why all their porn is censored. In South Korea, it's illegal altogether to distribute any porn, but they have tons of camgirls. In China, it's also illegal.

It doesn't really matter where I am from, though. There are poor people everywhere. Plus I'm kind of disabled by severe eczema, to the point I can't even open a bottle without hurting my hands. I don't think I'm really comparable to the average person, even from a poor country. By the way, using the UK as an example, a RTX 4090 computer costs about £ 4000. The average savings for age 25-34, according to

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, is £4775. It's pretty damn expensive.

My Patreon isn't particularly cheap. I just didn't set up tiers for like $50 or $100 USD. The lower tiers are similar to those of other VN developers. I just don't think my game is worth that much. I'm a gamer myself, so I know how other games of much higher quality sell. You can buy an AAA game for $60. You can buy a month of game time for WoW for $15. Even if I work full-time on my game, I can certainly tell you the production value of my game is much lower than these games. I don't think people should "pay" too much to support me. I'm happy if there are more people tipping me $1 or $3. I think that's about what you should pay if you want to pay, similar to how you tip street performers.

 

[taler]

No, I cannot afford a 4090. I don't really want to disclose where I am from after learning about the retarded outdated laws of my country. It's best that I don't draw the attention of my local authorities. Laws on porn can be very retarded in some countries. In Japan, it's illegal to distribute uncensored porn, hence why all their porn is censored. In South Korea, it's illegal altogether to distribute any porn, but they have tons of camgirls. In China, it's also illegal.

It doesn't really matter where I am from, though. There are poor people everywhere. Plus I'm kind of disabled by severe eczema, to the point I can't even open a bottle without hurting my hands. I don't think I'm really comparable to the average person, even from a poor country. By the way, using the UK as an example, a RTX 4090 computer costs about £ 4000. The average savings for age 25-34, according to

You must be registered to see the links

, is £4775. It's pretty damn expensive.

My Patreon isn't particularly cheap. I just didn't set up tiers for like $50 or $100 USD. The lower tiers are similar to those of other VN developers. I just don't think my game is worth that much. I'm a gamer myself, so I know how other games of much higher quality sell. You can buy an AAA game for $60. You can buy a month of game time for WoW for $15. Even if I work full-time on my game, I can certainly tell you the production value of my game is much lower than these games. I don't think people should "pay" too much to support me. I'm happy if there are more people tipping me $1 or $3. I think that's about what you should pay if you want to pay, similar to how you tip street performers.

Don't compare your VN to "games", compare it to niche porn. I believe your patreon is underpriced.

 

[BiggestDickest]

Don't compare your VN to "games", compare it to niche porn. I believe your patreon is underpriced.

It doesn't change anything. Raising prices doesn't mean more revenues. Chances are even fewer people would be willing to support me at higher prices. If they want, they can already choose the higher tiers.

 

[taler]

It doesn't change anything. Raising prices doesn't mean more revenues. Chances are even fewer people would be willing to support me at higher prices. If they want, they can already choose the higher tiers.

That's not how this works, but okay.

 

[cooties69]

So when this game says it's complete, does it have a "proper" ending, or does it just stop? I know the dev is going to start a new game, so I wanted to ask since it says its version "0.6".