Unity Hunt and Snare [r35b] [Rufflenecks]

[Tabby the pervert]

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3, the reason why there aren't any large recruitable characters is really simple, there's no sex scenes for them
here a large recruited character
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I've mentioned Arktis and Tilli on Sardaan island because these were created for Sardaan that was created with small sand species when medium-om-small sex scenes were already available. There was no practical reason for not utilizing NPC size at that time.
The only reason why they recruitAsCrew to medium size is that Ruffleneck (or whoever were doing that) didn't bother to set bodySize parameter for any character in the game. They are all zero = medium.
Old characters like Kara or Bosun don't have bodySize parameter in their bytes files at all.
Interestingly, CabinPaw bytes file from early 2024 does not have bodySize parameter, while newer file does. So it may have been modified/recreated at the time she got a full act. Yet that bodySize in new file is zero (medium), so still not utilized.

While the recruitAsCrew is the only function where bodySize actually matters, but it not used by in-game NPCs, there is another case where bodySize works but probably should not, at least now: Player character size. If you either start a new game or change a character bytes file for existing saved game to different bodySize, your character is rendered in that body size. Soon you'll see that the game is not ready for that. Offered prey sex scenes are either wrong or none, the only correct one is for small player on medium prey. Aiming with large player is hard because the camera view point is not adjusted for player size, etc. Not sure if Ruffleneck originally considered 3 player sizes, but it's definitely out of scope now as the number of sex animation combinations would multiply (large on small, small on large, two other sizes for full acts).

 

[FurryLion]

I've mentioned Arktis and Tilli on Sardaan island because these were created for Sardaan that was created with small sand species when medium-om-small sex scenes were already available. There was no practical reason for not utilizing NPC size at that time.
The only reason why they recruitAsCrew to medium size is that Ruffleneck (or whoever were doing that) didn't bother to set bodySize parameter for any character in the game. They are all zero = medium.
Old characters like Kara or Bosun don't have bodySize parameter in their bytes files at all.
Interestingly, CabinPaw bytes file from early 2024 does not have bodySize parameter, while newer file does. So it may have been modified/recreated at the time she got a full act. Yet that bodySize in new file is zero (medium), so still not utilized.

While the recruitAsCrew is the only function where bodySize actually matters, but it not used by in-game NPCs, there is another case where bodySize works but probably should not, at least now: Player character size.

1, you're confusing written sex scenes and random acts in the wild
2, bodySize is relatively new and there's no reason to update bosun since he's not recruitable and Juin has always been different xD
3, player bodysize shouldn't work like that, seems like a new bug

 

[FurryLion]

It took me multiple runs to catch each character in every size.

EDIT: Note1: I'm not sure if spawn_unaltered = true will work for you if you have disabled spawning females in the options menu. Both bytes files are females which seems to not be your preference.
Note2: One spawner seems to spawn one random size for all characters at one time and different size at another spawn batch. But it may be just coincidence. Also it is hard to tell the prey size until you stand next to it.

so... you can spawn large prey? then what's the problem? everything works as it should (apart from the mod being a mess)

 

[Tabby the pervert]

so... you can spawn large prey? then what's the problem? everything works as it should (apart from the mod being a mess)

The only point of that experiment was to prove that your statement that you can change the prey character size by changing bodySize parameter in bytes file in your post https://f95zone.to/threads/hunt-and-snare-r35b-rufflenecks.3408/post-18724425 is false.
Testing that single purpose mod has proven that prey spawner ignores bodySize in bytes file entirely, both for custom spawn point and for existing in-game spawn points. It spawns prey in size randomized per SizeChance values or in default medium size if SizeChance parameters are absent.
There is nothing wrong with that, it is just a proof how the prey is spawned.

1, you're confusing written sex scenes and random acts in the wild
2, bodySize is relatively new and there's no reason to update bosun since he's not recruitable and Juin has always been different xD
3, player bodysize shouldn't work like that, seems like a new bug

I'm not confusing anything. I'm just saying that introducing the bodySize parameter in bytes file is sort of pointless if is not set properly for any in-game NPCs to match their body size, so utilizing recruitAsCrew in modding existing NPC does not render the correct size.
If the point was to use it for custom NPCs by users in their mods, then they should make the bodysize to be part of Character definition in pail file, not an undocumented parameter in binary file without UI, that even Ruffleneck is not using. Now it can be adjusted only (note 1) in a hex editor by those with enough computer background to figure it out, which is a bit above an average game user.

Note 1: Or by compiling some tool from Github yourself, which is even more user skill demanding. Definitely not meant to be used by users.

 

[FurryLion]

The only point of that experiment was to prove that your statement that you can change the prey character size by changing bodySize parameter in bytes file in your post https://f95zone.to/threads/hunt-and-snare-r35b-rufflenecks.3408/post-18724425 is false.
Testing that single purpose mod has proven that prey spawner ignores bodySize in bytes file entirely

well you're kinda missing the point that bodySize is the result of spawning large prey and i never claimed that changing bodysize and then using it for a spawner is the correct way, that's on you

I'm just saying that introducing the bodySize parameter in bytes file is sort of pointless

just bc you don't know what it's for doesn't make it pointless, it's been quite obvious you're just guessing most of the time what features there are and their intended use

 

[Tabby the pervert]

well you're kinda missing the point that bodySize is the result of spawning large prey and i never claimed that changing bodysize and then using it for a spawner is the correct way, that's on you

just bc you don't know what it's for doesn't make it pointless, it's been quite obvious you're just guessing most of the time what features there are and their intended use

1. Then read again my post that you were reacting to, accusing me of being wrong.
2. As you too. Only Ruffleneck and his coding guy Drathek know exactly what it is intended for. But since Ruffleneck is not using that (at least yet), there might be some disconnect. If you are in some connection to them, you could remind them that it is not set properly for existing NPCs and that it is an easy fix.

Anyway, enough pointless bickering here. I would be not surprised if some moderator wipes the last page. You can PM me if it was not enough for you.

 

[FurryLion]

1. Then read again my post that you were reacting to, accusing me of being wrong.

you mean this ?

As it turns out, you can't make a large character, prey or NPC.

 

[FurryLion]

2. As you too.

nope