Dorn

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I feel like the quality of the sex scenes has dropped drastically over the last couple releases. It was amazing at first but now it's really dropped off. The story is interesting but if the sex falls flat it's not really that great.
 
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harem - king

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i don't know if i believe that was Leah's twin .. i think it was Leah in disguise ;)
The entire point is that Laura dropped her guard because she already had Leah under hypnosis. So if you think it was Leah, how do you think she was able to act against Laura who already had her under hypnosis?
 

testerette

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Does anyone know if these girls are able to be extracted or have been remade in Honey select/ai shoujo or anywhere else?
Thanks!
 

mickster101

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This game is friggin' awesome! Compared to the wait-fests like A Wife and Mother, this one is pretty jammed packed with action. It surprisingly did not get boring, though sometimes it was a bit too easy for the MC. Still, it has an interesting plot and 'cast' to make the game fun. I will complain about the Laura arc though, that really ground the game to a halt and didn't prove to be very interesting. It really derailed the game's momentum, but it was not a fatal flaw.

In terms of hopes for this game, I hope to see the MC taking down more married/engaged women, especially the moms of his friends. The corruption of Brittany has been by far the hottest conquest of the game; her initial reluctance and 'taken' status made the win so much sweeter. The moms would of course be very resistant to such advances, but would fall in the end. That they (the girls) will all join in with MC and their respective moms is also really hoped for.
 
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chaughton22

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Good game, although as previous posters have mentioned, the H scene quality has declined with successive patches. The game's early scenes really drew me in, particularly the
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However, many of the later scenes only have 2-3 close up angles in their animations; it's a significant letdown. Hypnosis has great potential, and is generally engaging. I don't regret the download or the time I put in playing love and slave routes pre-gallery mod (hint: OscarSix's gallery/walkthrough mod is crucial with the many branching choices found in the game. The game would have earned an extra star if gallery was included in the base game and a bit more direction provided on some of the more consequential choices, basic quality of life improvements.

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I played this last night after missing a few updates because I really wanted to enjoy this game for a good hour or so.
so imagine my suprise asfter loading up my Save and playing the threesome hot tub scene after which sex in my car followed by takeing Leah out on a first date nice and then we get home and what happends Black Screen and writeing ok I thought couple of missing images I'll read it so I know whats going on when the images come back.

But they didn't come back it just kept going and going. starnge I thought no one lives at the bottom and a mineshaft so no rooms that dark so maybe it my PC. And still it kept going and going by now i had swoped from reading to skimming.
then I see wait as sec we are having our first sex with Leah and all it we get is text that can't be right thats quite an important moment in their relationship. so out of curiosity I played one and now it was morning and the pictures where back what happend next I will never know because as soon as I found out it wasn't missing pictures or a glitch on my PC but delibrate by the Dev I quite out the game and deleted it.

This could of been the greatest story since romeo and juliet had the best ending of any game ever but I wouldn't know.
Because as far as I'm concerned the Dev screwed us over on that one scene for what ever twisted reason it dosn't matter it was enough to put me off this game and for me thats all that matters.

best part I looked it up in search and a few of you mentioned that scene but no one really complained and thats just baffling to me that you would let the Dev screw with you like that.

Before anyone says atleast it had text you could use your imagination my answere is no offence but screw you its a game I was playing if I wanted to use my imagination I'd read a fucking book not play this porn game.
It's not the f-kin 80's its not a Dungeon and dragons txt only game for fuck sake.

It a shame it was a good game it had tons of promise I would of even beed willing to suported it if Patreon didn't seem to have issues charging my PayPal account which no other subscription has issues with and I can't seem to get it sorted out despite haveing made a new Pay Pal account but what ever don't matter anyway because that would of made me pull my support.

Well thats it rant over I have said all I am gonna say on this game as far as i'm concerned it on the ignore list it now it nolonger exists to me.
I don't exspect anyone to take notice and I certainly don't expect the Dev to care if they can pull a stunt like that why would they.

I also won't bother to wish the Dev sucess because I nolonger care.
I will wish the fans the best of luck with this game because they will need it.
 

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I played this last night after missing a few updates because I really wanted to enjoy this game for a good hour or so.
so imagine my suprise asfter loading up my Save and playing the threesome hot tub scene after which sex in my car followed by takeing Leah out on a first date nice and then we get home and what happends Black Screen and writeing ok I thought couple of missing images I'll read it so I know whats going on when the images come back.

But they didn't come back it just kept going and going. starnge I thought no one lives at the bottom and a mineshaft so no rooms that dark so maybe it my PC. And still it kept going and going by now i had swoped from reading to skimming.
then I see wait as sec we are having our first sex with Leah and all it we get is text that can't be right thats quite an important moment in their relationship. so out of curiosity I played one and now it was morning and the pictures where back what happend next I will never know because as soon as I found out it wasn't missing pictures or a glitch on my PC but delibrate by the Dev I quite out the game and deleted it.

This could of been the greatest story since romeo and juliet had the best ending of any game ever but I wouldn't know.
Because as far as I'm concerned the Dev screwed us over on that one scene for what ever twisted reason it dosn't matter it was enough to put me off this game and for me thats all that matters.

best part I looked it up in search and a few of you mentioned that scene but no one really complained and thats just baffling to me that you would let the Dev screw with you like that.

Before anyone says atleast it had text you could use your imagination my answere is no offence but screw you its a game I was playing if I wanted to use my imagination I'd read a fucking book not play this porn game.
It's not the f-kin 80's its not a Dungeon and dragons txt only game for fuck sake.

It a shame it was a good game it had tons of promise I would of even beed willing to suported it if Patreon didn't seem to have issues charging my PayPal account which no other subscription has issues with and I can't seem to get it sorted out despite haveing made a new Pay Pal account but what ever don't matter anyway because that would of made me pull my support.

Well thats it rant over I have said all I am gonna say on this game as far as i'm concerned it on the ignore list it now it nolonger exists to me.
I don't exspect anyone to take notice and I certainly don't expect the Dev to care if they can pull a stunt like that why would they.

I also won't bother to wish the Dev sucess because I nolonger care.
I will wish the fans the best of luck with this game because they will need it.
Err, what? I'm pretty sure first time with Leah had pictures. It's a later update that everyone hates.
 

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Err, what? I'm pretty sure first time with Leah had pictures. It's a later update that everyone hates.

He says he load up a threesome save, so its clearly way after the first time with Leah, he probably doesnt remember it

He must be referring to the Laura ending where he wakes up with Leah on top of him because Leah uses his morning wood to satisfy herself since his dick doesnt get hard with her anymore
 

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Err, what? I'm pretty sure first time with Leah had pictures. It's a later update that everyone hates.
Nah. I think he's referring to the scene after the Ashley date. I think that's where it's at. It's all black screens and text. But, it only happens if you choose Leah over Ashley. I ran into that myself. The sex scene with Ashley is all black with text.
 

LWtbo

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Shit I forgot to ignore this thred so I still noticed the comment on my post and being nosie poped in to see whats was said Odviously I didn't specifiy the point I was refering too fully.
Up untill that point I had delibratly tried to avoid any route that would lead Leah as I was planing to play that later.
so aprat from a Black Screen Deep throat scene with Leah that had anoyed me to start with but wasn't as long a scene so despite thinking why did the dev even bother with the deep throat scene if they wasn't gonna show it I let it pass then there was the sleeping with Ashley and Leah where MC almost had proper sex with Ashley but ended up blueballed instead and went to sleep also Black screen this is where Leah descided to kiss the MC and then opens his eyes and the images returns again stupidly pointles I then picked the stoped it option then later you go to Laura's house and Grace is there then you go to the hottub and this is the option for a threesome and thats the threesome I meant.
Then after that you meet Ashley and Have a blowjob followed by sex in your SUV. after that there isn't a way as i can see to avoid the date with Leah and later that night you get the scene that so pissed me off I won't be playing this game again.
now there may be routes where you already fucked Leah before now but not on my route so for me it was the first time haveing sex with Leah and at the same time thanks to the f-kin stupid Black Screen text only scene a total waste of f-kin time.
I can only prosume the Dev can't do night time or deep throating so why put the f-kin thing in there skip it have all the sex during daytime or evening for f-ks sake.

P.S. great now I just seen that post that If I had tried the Leah only route I would end up with the same shitty black screen with Ashley it juts gets better.

Ok now thats cleared to have fun playing this peeps bu bye.
 
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Cernunnos.

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Scratch becoming a patron again, just read his little 'message to the fans'. He thinks that doing the same shit that TLoU2 did but managing to do it even worse, to deliberately piss off all his fans is anything but something to hang his head in shame about, he can go straight to hell. This wasn't a mistake after all, he's just a totally shitty controversy-baiting writer.
I hear you. That 'message to the fans' had a massive red flag in it for me when he put forth 'The Last Jedi' as the best route the ST could have gone. It's pretty obvious he was trying to go the Rian route and subvert expectations...a path that doesn't really draw folks.
 

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Some thoughts:

1. No story teller should ever hold up TLoU2 or The Last Jedi as models for their work. Both trashed franchises and will forever be labelled as such.

2. Now that the Laura nonsense is done, I hope the Badass path consists of the MC targeting married women, especially the moms of his current conquests. Taking down Brittany was the most erotic thing in this game, and i hope we see more of it.

3. Hope to see a variety of body types (not all mondo-titty girls). Again, Brittany and Jenn's friend (not Haley) stand out for me.

Otherwise, hope the haterade goes away and the dev can just get back to making a fun game full of action.
 

MrHHH

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Hey, I just wanted to say this is the best BE game out there!

I just wanted to make one minor criticism, I hate to say anything seeing all the... weird posts on this thread.

I was looking at some of the later pictures of Haley, and her skin looks really odd? Her freckles don't look like freckles, but more like dirt or mold. Especially since there's nothing on her face?
 

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Hey guys!
My apologies for not being too active on here lately.
I wrote a long ass summary for the game as well as a response to some of your comments, criticisms and feedback if any of you are interested in checking it out.
Cheers!
Figured I'd bump this response for those who haven't seen it; I hadn't til after my earlier post. It's worth a read, if you love the potential in this game. As said by others, thanks for participating on F95. I don't agree with everything you wrote, but I do understand where you're coming from, and reading that did actually help me understand some choices that seemed unusual.


My favorite thing about the game is the dialogue, I'd totally go out for beers with MC or Corey; it really brings back memories of wild nights and hungover mornings. 18 to 20-something year olds aren't the smartest folks around to begin with, and when you add alcohol, a mysterious mind-altering power, and a bunch of hormones to the mix, is it really that unbelievable that one chose a bathroom drawer as a stash spot in a pinch? As a heavy partier, I can attest to the pitfalls of trying to find a stash spot during the middle of a party. You learn from your failures. You know where MC won't hide shit again? That's right, in a bathroom drawer :cool:
 
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Figured I'd bump this response for those who haven't seen it; I hadn't til after my earlier post. It's worth a read, if you love the potential in this game. As said by others, thanks for participating on F95. I don't agree with everything you wrote, but I do understand where you're coming from, and reading that did actually help me understand some choices that seemed unusual.

My favorite thing about the game is the dialogue, I'd totally go out for beers with MC or Corey; it really brings back memories of wild nights and hungover mornings. 18 to 20-something year olds aren't the smartest folks around to begin with, and when you add alcohol, a mysterious mind-altering power, and a bunch of hormones to the mix, is it really that unbelievable that one chose a bathroom drawer as a stash spot in a pinch? As a heavy partier, I can attest to the pitfalls of trying to find a stash spot during the middle of a party. You learn from your failures. You know where MC won't hide shit again? That's right, in a bathroom drawer :cool:
That link really should be posted on the front page of this thread instead of buried in the ocean of comments. I would like to see people to be more open-minded about the going-ons of not only this game (as you seem to be (y)), but other games on F95 too. I think having that document immediately available would be productive towards that end, as it does offer valuable insight into what devs have to deal with.

I was in general agreement with the dev through the whole fiasco that went down, as I had gut feelings on what he was trying to do. I am especially glad tensions seem to have eased now that the stolen watch arc is over (knock on wood)(did I speak too soon?). It is perfectly acceptable for someone to point out what they think is a flaw, like a rendering issue, a typo, a plot-hole, character inconsistency, or to disagree with a climatic event in the story - if people are constructive about it. It is not acceptable to become toxic and hate on a game and its dev for their creative choices, or over their own conjectures. I'm not saying people have to like the game; I am only saying I don't believe the level of anger behind many of the responses over the stolen watch arc was justified, especially since this is a porn game (and a notably silly one at that). Maybe I'm out of touch, :unsure: but last I checked, porn in general was not something worth getting that upset over. I would advise to anyone who has the energy to become that enraged over a porn game that they should consider reassessing their priorities and values.

I hope everyone involved has come out better in some way from what happened here. The MC surely will have developed.:ROFLMAO: Lets all try to be better than him :cool: (the low bar notwithstanding).
 
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I'm sorry you feel that way, but I also don't see how you're the victim. I also don't see how there was any sort of dirty trick. That's also the toxic attitude I was talking about. It doesn't serve to benefit anyone. No one was physically harmed or emotionally scarred. The dev never "gave" you choices, you always had choices. You always had the choice to either ignore or try to see what he was doing, and to then either appreciate it for what it is or walk away.

There are like only two early endings with Laura, who was an underdeveloped character up to the stolen watch arc. She had a blowjob scene and a hot tub scene, and that was pretty much it. I think people were actually asking for more Laura. The flags to her characterization were there. Simply, no one saw them. That's not a trick, that's just poor observation on every players' part who missed them, including my own. I didn't see it coming either. It was only after the hints became obvious. I thought it was well played.

I'm not trying to persuade you of anything, or start/restart things. I just find what you have to say is based on inaccurate assumptions, like "the dev forcing Laura on the players" and I don't understand it. I'm also wondering that if you hate the game so much, are sick of arguing, and are now walking away from it, then why are you responding to what I have to say? If you're done with the game, then ignore my comments, click that "unwatch" button at the top of the page, and leave. The only person keeping you here is you.

I've observed that a frequent flaw of H games is the lack of a clear antagonist; your antagonist early on is usually just skipping past the grind, and late game often becomes aimless and less well paced; it can be difficult to know what you're supposed to do next.
As I think back to some the widely agreed all time great adult games, a clear antagonist is something that's present in the majority:
edit: I forgot we're not supposed to mention other games in a given game's thread, my bad.
... I think all would agree Laura fits that role here, and I think the game would be overall weaker without her.

Plus... Laura's ass is to die for. Just saying.
 
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juan palote

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I've observed that a frequent flaw of H games is the lack of a clear antagonist; your antagonist early on is usually just skipping past the grind, and late game often becomes aimless and less well paced; it can be difficult to know what you're supposed to do next.
As I think back to some the widely agreed all time great adult games, a clear antagonist is something that's present in the majority:
edit: I forgot we're not supposed to mention other games in a given game's thread, my bad.
... I think all would agree Laura fits that role here, and I think the game would be overall weaker without her.

Plus... Laura's ass is to die for. Just saying.
Laura as a character is fine.

The MC taking the watch to a pool party and leaving it for anyone to take it or fucking video hypnosis are not fine.

No one criticized Laura before the very stupid stolen watch story arc, so that clearly shows were the issue was.

The sooner everyone realizes/admits that the stolen watch arc was bad for the game, the sooner we can go back to having a great game again
 

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18 to 20-something year olds aren't the smartest folks around to begin with, and when you add alcohol, a mysterious mind-altering power, and a bunch of hormones to the mix, is it really that unbelievable that one chose a bathroom drawer as a stash spot in a pinch? As a heavy partier, I can attest to the pitfalls of trying to find a stash spot during the middle of a party. You learn from your failures. You know where MC won't hide shit again? That's right, in a bathroom drawer :cool:
I don't think the location was really the problem. Any location would have looked stupid because players are genre savvy enough to recognize a Checkhov's gun. In the same way there's no reason to have a rifle hanging on the wall if it's never going to go off, there's no reason to include a scene of the protagonist hiding the watch if it's not going to be stolen. When the scene showed Protag-kun hiding the watch in a drawer, what players saw was Protag-kun pointing a Chekhov's gun right at his own foot. Pointing a metaphorical gun at yourself will always look stupid, no matter how justified it is in-universe.

It may not be fair to judge Protag-kun so harshly, but it also feels unfair for the player to have their own avatar sabotage them.
 

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Beta has been released on the Patreon. Looking forward to seeing what endings he managed to include in this coming version.
 
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