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The ArcKnight

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Okay so i just started playing the update and I'm calling it here. Laura was the one who took it.
Why do I say that? The phone calls branching paths.
In one save, i called Laura first and went over there before calling grace. result limp dick
In the other, I called grace first, result; not limp dick.
I dont think it has anything to do with the amount of sex considering the pool party bangathon.
Putting that together with the fact that after the first couple times, you dont remember being hypnotized and i think Laura hyno'd us when we went to see/fuck her.

Just got to Jenn's for the interrogation, we will see how well my hypothesis holds up after I finsih but just wanted to state it before i got a reveal.
 

AL.d

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Pretty sure those are three different ends of chapter 10. Grace grabbing Daphne at the end meaning Daphne isn't packing her things from Grace's; all three of them calling Laura Mistress; MC walking out on Leah, Ashley and Cory without saying a word. Last one sounds like harem to the rescue, second one sounds like bad end, first one is Daphne doing something. My bet is Daphne will pretend to be hypnotised Grace and smack Laura in the back of the head with something heavy regardless of which variation it was

It's the usual "villain getting the upper hand before hero pulls some trick or miracle" trope. Judging by you people getting all riled up and emotional the author did great. Power wanks are fun, but not every story should be a power wank, you know?
Stories about power wanks can be fun. Stories about villains getting the upper hand over the protag can also be fun. Thing is...this not just a story, it's a story driven game. And in those, the player needs to have a say in the way the MC behaves, no? Otherwise it's just a linear narrative only pretending to offer choice.

Yes, I also think a little adversity can spice up a game but it has to be done right. Having MC act like a dumbass for two episodes straight only to setup a bailout by his harem, is not the right way to me.


Either way I find it funny that people are OK with MC brainwashing the girls but are furious when one of them is brainwashing MC :D
Hypno/mind control from the perspective of the controlled and hypno from the perspective of the controlled are two entirely different fetishes and they very rarely overlap. For obvious reasons.
 
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Avaron1974

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Otherwise it's just a linear narrative only pretending to offer choice.
That's exactly what this is.

Things happen whether you pick them or not. Very few choices actually matter. The only ones that lead to anything are the ending branches. No other choices matter.
 

Orannis

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In the same way you might not be pleased if your hetero porn suddenly turned into gay porn. "Oh, now you don't like it when the guy is getting fucked up the ass all of a sudden?"
Hay now I am all for Valerie's boyfriend becoming our little trap while also making Valerie ours.
 
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wulver

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That's exactly what this is.

Things happen whether you pick them or not. Very few choices actually matter. The only ones that lead to anything are the ending branches. No other choices matter.
Actually the developer is working to make things more choice driven, it's just the way it's happening that makes it weird.

I have played earlier builds and yes you did end up with everyone regardless, however in later builds I noticed that you could start opting out of certain events and not engaging with certain girls.

One example is with Grace at Laura's party first time I played I used a save from an earlier build and we had the option to have sex behind the fence when going for supplies, however I started a fresh game and avoided her completely and the option didn't show up and she never states we were doing anything together. However again it comes back in the most recent chapter that everyone is again.

So it does look like the developer is getting new chapters out first on the assumption of the harem path and then in later builds makes fixes for other paths that don't involve certain characters.
 

Apostate

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You guys can argue all you want. I just want an ending where I get to put babies in giant-boobed waifus Grace and Jenn, with their friends Haley and Daphne as handmaiden concubines / co-waifus. Everyone else is nice but optional. Laura needs to get a personality transplant.
 
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Avaron1974

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You guys can argue all you want. I just want an ending where I get to put babies in giant-boobed waifus Grace and Jenn, with their friends Haley and Daphne as handmaiden concubines / co-waifus. Everyone else is nice but optional. Laura needs to get a personality transplant.
According to the walkthrough, if you want Grace and Jenn you get Laura too.

Individual paths will become a major focus, as well as these group paths:

  • Leah and Ashley
  • Laura and Grace
  • The option of Jenn to be added to either
  • And, of course, a harem path if you decide to go after every girl you meet.
 
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Gibberish666

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Absolutly hated episode 10. Not my thing at all, and even if it was the thing I hate more than what just happened is every "choice" leading to the same outcome. Something about that just grinds my gears.

I did actually support this on patreon for episode 8 and immediately stopped supporting when the theft happened because I could see where the story was heading, and I was right. I said as much to the Dev when I stopped my support.

Im sure he will keep going the way he is and that's fine, maybe when this is completed I could stomach a full playthough just to satisfy my completionism OCD!
Stories with multiple routes are difficult to write because the author has to take so many different factors into account. Stories with multiple routes AND multiple endings even more difficult and time consuming to write. And even most of those games have climatic moments that all routes merge upon. Very few VNs have completely separate routes, because that pretty much means writing an X number of completley different games. I think you're holding EU to a standard that even AAA game developers like Bioware struggle with. That's not particularly fair.:unsure:

You're actually incorrect to assume all the choices lead to the same outcome. There 'is' a general plot the main game route follows, but there are actually many changes depending on some of the important choices you make in this game. Some of these choices affect the side routes/endings too, for example, the first Laura ending changes significantly depending on whether or not you choose to have sex with her sister.

You'll do you, but I would like to encourage cutting the dev a little slack.

Pretty sure those are three different ends of chapter 10. Grace grabbing Daphne at the end meaning Daphne isn't packing her things from Grace's; all three of them calling Laura Mistress; MC walking out on Leah, Ashley and Cory without saying a word. Last one sounds like harem to the rescue, second one sounds like bad end, first one is Daphne doing something. My bet is Daphne will pretend to be hypnotised Grace and smack Laura in the back of the head with something heavy regardless of which variation it was

It's the usual "villain getting the upper hand before hero pulls some trick or miracle" trope. Judging by you people getting all riled up and emotional the author did great. Power wanks are fun, but not every story should be a power wank, you know?
Agreed, the fact that the devs are getting any response is better than no response contrary to conventional wisdom that says the MC should always be perfect. No response means the game is boring.:p

You guys can argue all you want. I just want an ending where I get to put babies in giant-boobed waifus Grace and Jenn, with their friends Haley and Daphne as handmaiden concubines / co-waifus. Everyone else is nice but optional. Laura needs to get a personality transplant.
Great minds think alike :cool: (y)I like Jenn and Ashley the best! I was happily surprised to find how much Grace improves later on.
 

The ArcKnight

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Is there a way to fuck Haley in the newest update? When I go to Jenn's I can fuck her and Valeria but as i'm leaving it looks like Haley wants to say something but doesnt.

Just wondering if i missed a flag for her somewhere...

Okay, so finished the update, its SUUUUPER short. And I get where people are coming from with the "WTF?!" ness of it.
It does end super abrupt with Evil - REDACTED
 
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Sewyoba

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Is there a way to fuck Haley in the newest update? When I go to Jenn's I can fuck her and Valeria but as i'm leaving it looks like Haley wants to say something but doesnt.

Just wondering if i missed a flag for her somewhere...
Dunno about gf Jenn, but sub Jenn forces Haley to eat your cum out of her off-camera because Haley missed her chance at MC
 

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Yes, I also believe this is the case. I thing it is sign of good game when author manage to make players feel such strong emotions. I don't have any doubts that there will be way to just stop Laura and maybe even one to punish her in some way.
Either way I find it funny that people are OK with MC brainwashing the girls but are furious when one of them is brainwashing MC :D
I think there's a clue in the dialogue between the protagonist, Grace and Daphne as to how Laura might be foiled.
 

Rosen King

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Okay, so finished the update, its SUUUUPER short.
Just so you know, Chapter 10 can end early depending on your actions. I believe the longest path through the chapter has you getting the watch back, but then stuff happens that leads you to a similar point as the other paths. But some of them can end pretty abruptly.
 

Gibberish666

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I can't help but wonder why he thought that would be well received. Did he see that people liked the bad end where Laura took over and figure that would be a good place to take the main story? I just don't get it.
Yes, the bad end was pretty well received. Why anyone would think that what works well for a bad end would work for the main story is beyond me though.
It's not a game if there is no way to lose. But the game isn't over yet. It's called building up to a climax in the story. Watch, in the next one or two chapters one of the girls who haven't been hypnotized, or possibly even Cory is going to come save the MC's ass from Laura. You're not supposed to like the bad guys winning. Yet what the dev has done is getting people like you and me talking, which means the dev is writing a story that is actually interesting.
 
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