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jpsimon

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I'll just ask: how is the ntr in this game, since i'd like to try it but i hate ntr?
It's sort of a tricky question. This game can (and should) be read from a 3rd person perspective. All of the renders in this game are in 3rd person, and a lot of events happen where the daughter (who is the main character) isn't there, you can also hear inner thoughts from all the characters at one point or another. I instinctively read it in 3rd person, so NTR would have been been impossible anyway.

There's 1 ending (out of 18) where the daughter gets a little out of hand (Ending 9a: Cum Addicted - Summa Cum Dumpster). There isn't any M/F NTR in the game other than that. There's lots of FF and FF/M, though, if you are counting that. But, again, the rules just don't apply when it's in 3rd person.
 
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I'll just ask: how is the ntr in this game, since i'd like to try it but i hate ntr?
There is ONLY one MALE presence in this game. that should answer your question, but you really should decide what ntr means and instead of using the term that is normally misused say what you don't want. 1) do you not like to have any other male characters interact with any one that could fuck a female character (this is not cuckolding it is just pure sex depending on how things are), 2) do you not like to be the main character who is male to be prevented from fucking a character at all (this is cuckolding and what ntr is supposed to mean. I'm sorry but I keep hearing everyone crying about not wanting to see NTR, but in essence they are saying they only want to see one male character (them) having sex with a female character which is NOT what NTR is supposed to mean.

this game the MC is actually a female, the 18 year old black haired girl you see in the OP so no matter how you define NTR this game has none. the only other two male characters are referred to in text only and never show up in the scenes you see.

EDIT: my appologies: the above poster reminded me there are a few guys in one of the endings, but it's still not NTR what so ever. That plus it is only one of 10 endings that that happens.
 

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thank you both for your answers, yes i meant cuckolding.
Sorry if i somehow misused the term
Well then i'll give it a try
 

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thank you both for your answers, yes i meant cuckolding.
Sorry if i somehow misused the term
Well then i'll give it a try
You may not have been misusing it and it seems like you aren't but a great many people do. :) no there is no cuckolding in this one what so ever, even in the end it explains the multitude of guys brought in as well. :) heh it's all good, I just wish people would use the term right and like you said you were looking for the cuckolding (or lack there of) and that is what the idea behind NTR is :) enjoy!!! I loved it myself.
 
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this game the MC is actually a female, the 18 year old black haired girl you see in the OP so no matter how you define NTR this game has none. the only other two male characters are referred to in text only and never show up in the scenes you see.
Might want to rethink that no NTR part.

One story has the MC starting a relationship with her friend and then her girlfriend running off with her mother.

Lesbian NTR.
 

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Might want to rethink that no NTR part.

One story has the MC starting a relationship with her friend and then her girlfriend running off with her mother.

Lesbian NTR.
I don't see it as NTR either.... if the daughter was forced to be present when they had their trysts sure... where daughter gets only to watch then yes it is... otherwise it's just cheating.
 

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Might want to rethink that no NTR part.
I don't think so. This story is told from a 3rd person perspective, with a 3rd person camera, and some inner monologue which comes off as more of a plot device than a 1st person element. You can't get NTR'd/cucked in 3rd person unless you are just hell-bent on self-inserting and getting offended. I mean, it takes a stretch of the imagination and deliberate force of will to self-insert into a 3rd person story. There could be a 30 minute scene of Bella laying in a street downtown begging for BBC as the volunteers line up around the block, and it still wouldn't be NTR or cucking because the reader is completely disconnected from what's happening. Just the thought of it spurs no emotion in me at all like normal NTR does.
 
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rly awful game, so boring. all game I just press enter, this not game this just slowmotion slayt show. waste of time.
then i guess you didn't see that there are 10 endings, each a very different thing. you probably didn't read the text. your opinion is welcome but I believe only partially informed. you can do exactly what you say for every renpy VN/game. the text is fairly funny if you look at it but please do not take my word for it and keep your opinions if you desire.
 
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then i guess you didn't see that there are 10 endings, each a very different thing. you probably didn't read the text. your opinion is welcome but I believe only partially informed. you can do exactly what you say for every renpy VN/game. the text is fairly funny if you look at it but please do not take my word for it and keep your opinions if you desire.
What, reading shit? in a porn game?! blasphemy!
 
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I swear I am not trolling or anything... but how is NTR so confusing? Isn't it just cheating? Or is there more to it than that? Because I saw on here in various posts that people are so confused of what is and what isn't NTR. So am I oversimplifying it? Or am I missing something?
 

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I swear I am not trolling or anything... but how is NTR so confusing? Isn't it just cheating? Or is there more to it than that? Because I saw on here in various posts that people are so confused of what is and what isn't NTR. So am I oversimplifying it? Or am I missing something?
Netorare/NTR = 3rd party stealing Main Character (male or female) love interest (doesn't necessarily need to be a romantic relationship).
Netori (sometimes also NTR because people just fuck up) = Main Character doing the stealing.

Both are filled with tropes and in netorare case, the main character doesn't always know until the very end (generally pictures, movies or catching them), sometimes they don't even find out...
It's an over saturated genre which is done poorly 99% of the time even by Japanese creators, it's lost all meaning and pretty much all cheating and other stuff gets mixed in. Pretty much it carries no meaning anymore, not that it matters since it's poorly done, haven't read a single decent one in 2-3 years.
 

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I swear I am not trolling or anything... but how is NTR so confusing? Isn't it just cheating? Or is there more to it than that? Because I saw on here in various posts that people are so confused of what is and what isn't NTR. So am I oversimplifying it? Or am I missing something?
Netorare/NTR = 3rd party stealing Main Character (male or female) love interest (doesn't necessarily need to be a romantic relationship).
Netori (sometimes also NTR because people just fuck up) = Main Character doing the stealing.

Both are filled with tropes and in netorare case, the main character doesn't always know until the very end (generally pictures, movies or catching them), sometimes they don't even find out...
It's an over saturated genre which is done poorly 99% of the time even by Japanese creators, it's lost all meaning and pretty much all cheating and other stuff gets mixed in. Pretty much it carries no meaning anymore, not that it matters since it's poorly done, haven't read a single decent one in 2-3 years.
The biggest issue is people thinking as Bloo says, that EVERY bit of cheating or someone that might be a love interest in the players eye gets fucked by someone other than the MC then it's NTR. heck in Dreaming of Dana there is a swinging couple, Maria and John and one time it was accused that it was NTR when John and Maria had sex. the true aspect of NTR is more the cuckolding aspect, where someone is PREVENTED from doing things with the love interest with or with out the knowledge of the one being cucked. (yes some people get off on that aspect when it happens to them but generally that won't lead to a disillusionment of the relationship) so really what you need to think about with NTR is this: Does the MC end up wanting that character all to him or her self? and if so is the one that is wanted intentionally holding the MC away while going out and fucking others? it does fall into the realm of cheating when there is a relationship but it's a cheating where someone is denied something in the long run.

I agree with Bloo, it needs to be done right before people call it NTR and even then it's not always a bad thing sometimes it is wanted too...
 

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Hi people, I have a problem with Ren'py, sometimes I have no sound and in 3/4 cases (Like this one) the game refuses to start by telling me that there is a problem with the audio files ...
 

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HOLY CRAP!! This game is awesome ... much better than expected :D

First thought: hmm, title sounds straight forward.
After playing some minutes: HEY, WHERE'S THE PLOT?? THEY'RE JUST F***ING ALL THE TIME!

Some time later: oh ... some of the dialoges are really touching and the anytime-horny-girls top off the we-are-all-happy-incest-people-story. And obviously there're several pathes (finished with end 2b first) to find :) And no repetitive bullshit (makes me very happy).

It absolutely raises the level of straight-forward-to-fucking gameplay (and still own a sufficient story) and despite I'm into slow-progress-games more I like this very much for what it is.

Are there other games of the author out there?
 
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