[ILLUSION] AI Girl and Honey Select 2 - Card Sharing Thread
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Hi!
This time I want to put in the table an ol issue I have been talking about: The body proportions.
First to all, I understand this is a game, therefore the cards not neccessary has to be like a real person, in fact I guess Ilusion games do this on purpose to warn some people this is a game and the actions depicted in it are pure fiction.
When doing animations in studioneo, I encounter several issues with the cards: some of them are way too far overdone: irreal hips, large, too targe breast, legs like elephants and so, make it near impossible to do a decent scene, and maybe even playing in main game. Other minor differences were head sizes, eyes and mouth too large, thats not a problem actually.
Another situation I encounter was the male body proportion: dicks... emm, way TOO large and thick, I mean, this is the dream every man want to have, isn't? but in practice it makes the penetration a real challenge for Hatano Miwa: The vag collapses and clip when cock digs in, clipping and deforming. All my males models have Hooh's scripted dicks scaled 0.75 - 0.65 of the original size, and works pretty decent, the arms and hands also are wrong: too short, tike a Ty-rex, some male modes can't even jerk off normally xD.
Today I want to share you My Base model, based on a model that some user posted. This is the bepis link where I get this:
Those two pictures are examples of a real persons. I have used them as a reference.
This is the original Hatano Miwa:
And this is the base model I am working on:
Side to side, you can see the differnce between: Hatano Miwa is more Anime-like shape. Face to face you can see better how much.
My model is done using the standar body proportions reccomended by artist and animators. The real proportions are different: Arms more long, legs a bit shorter, head more wide as well as shoulders, but I have decide to mantain some "irreal" proportions to match the rest of the cards that I have. Check out the measures:
To match the leg size, I modified the Y-axis Leg lenght to 93, also modified the leg offset but this is my personal taste.
of course the model's legs went to float in the air. to fix this, I modified the leg Y-Axis offset bone as shown in the picture.
And this is the final result:
And this is the +21 Base model That I want to share. I need some of you use it in the Main Game and tell me if it works, so I can work on the rest of the measures for different body types.
Credit to the original artist who make this base model.
This time I want to put in the table an ol issue I have been talking about: The body proportions.
First to all, I understand this is a game, therefore the cards not neccessary has to be like a real person, in fact I guess Ilusion games do this on purpose to warn some people this is a game and the actions depicted in it are pure fiction.
When doing animations in studioneo, I encounter several issues with the cards: some of them are way too far overdone: irreal hips, large, too targe breast, legs like elephants and so, make it near impossible to do a decent scene, and maybe even playing in main game. Other minor differences were head sizes, eyes and mouth too large, thats not a problem actually.
Another situation I encounter was the male body proportion: dicks... emm, way TOO large and thick, I mean, this is the dream every man want to have, isn't? but in practice it makes the penetration a real challenge for Hatano Miwa: The vag collapses and clip when cock digs in, clipping and deforming. All my males models have Hooh's scripted dicks scaled 0.75 - 0.65 of the original size, and works pretty decent, the arms and hands also are wrong: too short, tike a Ty-rex, some male modes can't even jerk off normally xD.
Today I want to share you My Base model, based on a model that some user posted. This is the bepis link where I get this:
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This is the original Hatano Miwa:
And this is the base model I am working on:
Side to side, you can see the differnce between: Hatano Miwa is more Anime-like shape. Face to face you can see better how much.
My model is done using the standar body proportions reccomended by artist and animators. The real proportions are different: Arms more long, legs a bit shorter, head more wide as well as shoulders, but I have decide to mantain some "irreal" proportions to match the rest of the cards that I have. Check out the measures:
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To match the leg size, I modified the Y-axis Leg lenght to 93, also modified the leg offset but this is my personal taste.
of course the model's legs went to float in the air. to fix this, I modified the leg Y-Axis offset bone as shown in the picture.
And this is the final result:
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And this is the +21 Base model That I want to share. I need some of you use it in the Main Game and tell me if it works, so I can work on the rest of the measures for different body types.
Credit to the original artist who make this base model.
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Kaseijin
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Hi!Oh I agree! I have always hated the way the Honey Select 2 Hitano body is shaped proportionally. You are correct her arms are too short, legs too long, shoulders need a bit more width, even the height of her scapula are too high. But I doubt Illusion ever intended players even attempt to create anything more realistic than Sailor Moon meets Pokermon.
But we do, don't we? We want more & more & more realism--at least I do. That is the best point here, too. At least I want realism. You who are reading this may adore anime styles and the sexual surreal. That is OK. To each their own. Except for when you try making them 130cm = 4'3" in height, of course.
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Your character tops out at a dainty 157cm = 5'2" a good foot taller--so hopefully no trolls come after you tonight!
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I wanted to say I really like how she has turned out. My only touchup might be on her legs and bum. I like adding more angling to the buttocks, widening the tibeo-femoral joints, as well as narrowing the femoral region just above her knee. But again, that is my own preference to add those especial curves using the Bone Editor.
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Oh yes, that is smack-worthy right there.
Yes. that is the point! This is an attempt to do a Base Model as a starting point when making our own honey gals. As a scene maker, when using several model from different artist (I am still noob to make an entire crew for my stories tho) I have found different measurements, for example once I tryed to make a lesbian scene and the two different chicks were way too far different, it was impossible to make a nice scissor pose, even tho the faces were pretty, the body did not help me.
As i wrote, this particular model is based in a full developed women, from East Asia (I dunno why I wrote mid east, edited already), Of course, in European countries there are taller people, in this case we can fiddle with leg and hips bones. Keep in mind that some bones will break the card, messing up the animations, that is the reason i try to move only one or two ABMX sliders.
And again, if I make a smaller model, not necessary will be used for...you know, In my scenes sometimes are people in different ages, moreover, my models depicting too young beings will never gonna be shared I dont want to hurt someone's feelings, don't worry about that
Finally I love your preferences in adding more meat where needed,There is everything in the vineyard of the ilusion universe
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I did try different bodies as I mentioned before I don't keep it default usually BP5 Meaty or BP5 Inni. I'll give it a try again without the plugin, what's the xyth24 folder for? It has a xyth24_hito.zip that looks like a zipmod and a 24.xyth file in it. Is this folder needed in the exe directory or are we to do something else with them?Interesting. That plugin was what Xyth24 had added. I would say remove it but retain the rest and try the animations once more. In the meantime, see these images of Hitomi in action...
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Based on the fact that Xyth24 almost NEVER delivers a perfect character OOTB, it is best you modify her to suit your own regards such as changing her body from the Default to ANYTHING ELSE. Ouch!
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Here is a modified card to use with her that works OK.
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I also modified the original pac link to include the new card.
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Here's what I get with your new card lol?
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El' Capitan
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Yikes! It seems we should do some real time debugging to see what is happening. If you have some time to chat, DM me and I will get her sorted for you. I know she works because I have tested her on my work laptop also--which has no Xyth24 encryption parameters.
Meantime, is anyone else getting these errors with Hitomi?
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Thank you (and Kaseijin ) for your explanations, I totally agree.Oh I agree! I have always hated the way the Honey Select 2 Hitano body is shaped proportionally. You are correct her arms are too short, legs too long, shoulders need a bit more width, even the height of her scapula are too high. But I doubt Illusion ever intended players even attempt to create anything more realistic than Sailor Moon meets Pokermon.
But we do, don't we? We want more & more & more realism--at least I do. That is the best point here, too. At least I want realism. You who are reading this may adore anime styles and the sexual surreal. That is OK. To each their own. Except for when you try making them 130cm = 4'3" in height, of course.
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Your character tops out at a dainty 157cm = 5'2" a good foot taller--so hopefully no trolls come after you tonight!
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I wanted to say I really like how she has turned out. My only touchup might be on her legs and bum. I like adding more angling to the buttocks, widening the tibeo-femoral joints, as well as narrowing the femoral region just above her knee. But again, that is my own preference to add those especial curves using the Bone Editor.
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Oh yes, that is smack-worthy right there.
Although that´s nothing new for me - since I got a little more experienced with the charamaker I´m tweaking every downloaded card without any exeption to the proportions for my personally taste.
My self created cards in any case.
If you compare my older cards with newer ones indeed there is a change happening due to personal taste and gaining more skills bit by bit (thanks god) in charamaker and getting more familiar with ABMX BoneMod.
Actually I´m totally reworking my + 200 downloaded favorite cards to the level of BR R15 - I already shared some examples for a request of GrimbleGromble
https://f95zone.to/threads/illusion...ect-2-card-sharing-thread.44248/post-13997276
https://f95zone.to/threads/illusion...ect-2-card-sharing-thread.44248/post-14106973
(maybe you missed them or didn´t like the more western shape - I know you like it more anime style if I watch what you´re sharing
).A rework of my own chara creations will follow after.
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turbojoe
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I know (and accept) only one Hitomi, and that´s her
(as you see original card from tretete, so far not reworked)
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I figured out what was going on with the vag not working it was a pair of skindent socks I had on her so that issue is worked out now. Def no plugin for me, as for the xyth24 folder I left that out too unless you can tell me what its for?
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Yep - unfortunately the "squeeze" socks from 3dh9527 are blocking any body animation (breasts too) - use only the "skindentation" ones (type into the search box).
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Ya basically any that say puffy, innie, meaty on them from Osland
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El' Capitan
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I would say take everything out but the "abdata" folder and "UserData".
Those two directories may be all you need for the hacked mod to work OK.
I just did the same on my work laptop and her load still seems great with just those folders. I might redo the share folder so there is no future issues.
Also, if her nose looks out of whack like your's turned into, forgo the custom card & use the originals. From there you can changer her body preset manually.
EDIT: Original link has been updated!
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Hello everyone,
I am delighted to share some cards I've recently created, hoping they will resonate with you. I encourage everyone to feel free to use these as a base and add your unique style and creativity. I am eager to see the diverse and innovative interpretations that will undoubtedly emerge.
Best regards,
Nova-1200
I am delighted to share some cards I've recently created, hoping they will resonate with you. I encourage everyone to feel free to use these as a base and add your unique style and creativity. I am eager to see the diverse and innovative interpretations that will undoubtedly emerge.
Best regards,
Nova-1200
I didn't have these issues. But I haven't played main game for a long time. Now, I only play studio. I am playing character with MMD dance. Your Hitomi is working well with MMD in studio.
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Exactly what I did with just those folders. The original 2 cards are fine only that newest card you linked to me above with the tongue sticking out does that crazy indented nose. Probaly good idea to get rid of the rest not needed to avoid confusion, specially that plugin.I would say take everything out but the "abdata" folder and "UserData". Those two directories may be all you need for the hacked mod to work OK.
I just did the same on my work laptop and her load still seems great with just those folders. I might redo the share folder so there is no future issues.
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Also, if her nose looks out of whack like your's turned into, forgo the custom card & use the originals. From there you can changer her body preset manually.
https://f95zone.to/threads/illusion...ect-2-card-sharing-thread.44248/post-14160735
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Original link has been updated.
Well, short of a few hiccups and a brute force de-obfuscator still running after its 3rd day straight on Xyth24's Tessa, I am going to say this first attempt is a success.
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Where can I get this body skin?It's all just a few simple tricks and nonsense. That DHH preset helps ALOT too. Nyaacho is my first go-to:
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I add my custom eye textures...
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Next, I add my usual two custom face under and overlays.
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For the body, I go to Kito/Kitn's custom skin textures.
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Nyaacho has some great ones also.
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I grab either a Boy2239 hair style or one from Sjjpl for a bit more realistic appearance.
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I also change the uncensoredselector away from "Default" so as to get her bumhole back to respectable.
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I adjust her arms (and tit size) so she is more skeletally accurate and pleasing to my eyes...
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And I enlarge her hands and sometimes her feet so they also look more accurate to a human being.
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I read somewhere way back on this thread about human beings versus blowup dolls. Most players enjoy surreally-shaped characters for Illusion games. I began my quest to achieve hyper-real-shaped girls, instead. It's a crazy learning process but I am happy to pass on what I have learned thus far so more players have less hair yanked out trying to do cool shit with their game.
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