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nah I would kill both they are both danger in own way, alania would pupet the mc, conrad can steal his throne. and yes I killed cass too.
Conrad could've stole the throne if he wanted, if realistically speaking. Considering he is one of the children of the Red Emperor, he is probably seen as the 'ideal' heir among some vassals and the court because of that. Oh, he also leads the King Guard's, though they sucked ass looking at how easy was the coup to succeed even without Elis. And he is a "human" which is probably the biggest advantage he has over Elis.

Though when you think about it, Alaina is probably the only obstacle in his way. That's probably why Ludwig said prolong the status quo as much as you can. Let Alaina and Conrad eat each other, they'll get weaker no matter who wins the quarrel.
 
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Conrad could've stole the throne if he wanted, if realistically speaking. Considering he is one of the children of the Red Emperor and probably the 'favorite' among some vassals and the court because of that. Oh, he also leads the King Guard's, though they sucked ass looking at how easy was the coup to succeed even without Elis. And he is a "human" which is probably the biggest advantage he has over Elis.

Though when you think about it, Alaina is probably the only obstacle in his way. That's probably why Ludwig said prolong the status quo as much as you can. Let Alaina and Conrad eat each other, they'll get weaker no matter who wins the quarrel.
Yeah I also think keeping the status quo is the best move for now, let the 2 keep each other in check at least until we are in a solid position after being crowned. Alaina can keep trying to "offer wisdom" herself or goading Seraphina to do that for her, but we don't have to listen to either of them, and Conrad hasn't tried anything even while we were in the west and the king was in a coma so I doubt he will try anything at this point after we received the western fealty.
 

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Should we just beat her into a bloody pulp with a goblet too?
Honestly, this part bothered me so much that I rolled back and exiled her instead. With how I played the MC, him becoming entirely unhinged just didn't feel right. I usually keep the choices I make, but I just couldn't in this case.

If her lies, her manipulations, her intrigues, her murders led to Elis coronation, then it was worth it.
From a pure utilitarian perspective, you're right. But the ends don't have to justify the means. Alaine has a lot of power and influence over the MC due to being a quasi-mother figure during his exile. There's also no telling what she'd do if he'd make a ruling that rubs her the wrong way. What would it take for her to turn on him? Elves live long lives and might be playing the long game.

But Conrad, no matter how you feel about him, is in a very good position. Because plans must be made based on the worst-case scenario. The worst-case scenario for Elis is if Conrad truly desires the throne. The very existence of this possibility seals his death warrant.
Because we cannot guarantee Conrad's loyalty.
We cannot guarantee Alaine's either. Is there any guarantee that she won't kill us when she decides our son is more likely to rule in her favor? Do we even want her to influence his education?

Though when you think about it, Alaina is probably the only obstacle in his way. That's probably why Ludwig said prolong the status quo as much as you can. Let Alaina and Conrad eat each other, they'll get weaker no matter who wins the quarrel.
This also reminds me of the warning about the snakes... That if one snake is taken out, the others will strangle each other. Maybe it's a warning that the snakes need to remain for a status quo, that none of their influence can dictate the MC's fate as long as they all remain.
 

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We cannot guarantee Alaine's either. Is there any guarantee that she won't kill us when she decides our son is more likely to rule in her favor? Do we even want her to influence his education?
Personally I find that very unlikely to happen. Especially if Isis is the mother. She'd probably kill Alaina herself. And either way Elis's child is going to be more human than elf and less likely to have elven support.
 
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Personally I find that very unlikely to happen. Especially if Isis is the mother. She'd probably kill Alaina herself. And either way Elis's child is going to be more human than elf and less likely to have elven support.
Isis aside, the nature of Elis' child matters less than his nurture, I think. Sure, he couldn't be emotionally manipulated for being a half-elf, but his education could be more liberal/progressive than that of his ancestors. Certainly if we sided with the rebels in the West (which felt very reminiscent of the French Revolution), it's not farfetched to think that this liberal mindset would spread. Even more if it's an economic success, if it raises everyone's quality of life.
It doesn't matter who the elves support, because the elves require help. If Elis won't help them, then his offspring would be their next best chance. Unless, of course, Elis wipes them all out.
 

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Many people here are forming a negative attitude toward Alaina simply because of her question: "Do you trust me, Elis?" That's a bad question for her to ask.
Because the obvious and rational answer is, of course, no.
There's no trust in someone who hid such a wealth of information.
But the world isn't black and white.

You're all simply ignoring the fact that even his mother hid this important information from him, so what? Should we just beat her into a bloody pulp with a goblet too?

Decisions need to be based on facts, not emotional responses.
And the fact is that no one, literally no one, has done more for Elis rule than Alaina.
If her lies, her manipulations, her intrigues, her murders led to Elis coronation, then it was worth it.

To understand how an individual will act, you need to understand their motivation. Alaina's motivation is obvious: to give the elves a better life. And for that, Elis is needed on the throne. As a half-human, to be accepted by humans. As a half-elf, to be accepted by the elves.

The next fact is that Konrad's very position, in the light of this information, is dangerous for Elis. He rightly said that if Konrad finds proof of all this lies, Elis will be dethroned as an illegitimate king, and Konrad himself will ascend to the throne as the only legitimate heir.

The point is that Alaina cannot use this information to harm Elis, as she is part of this conspiracy. She is literally in the same boat with him, and if they sink, they will sink together. Moreover, not only will Alaina suffer, but the elves will also be discredited.

And she herself is useful. How much effort has she already invested in Elis? How many people has she killed for his rule?
And how many more will she kill?
Who is using whom here? Who is manipulating whom here? Who benefits whom more here? All Elis needs is to pin Alaina down. He literally has more power; he can force her to act openly.

But Conrad, no matter how you feel about him, is in a very good position. Because plans must be made based on the worst-case scenario. The worst-case scenario for Elis is if Conrad truly desires the throne. The very existence of this possibility seals his death warrant.
Because we cannot guarantee Conrad's loyalty.

Obviously, the author will prepare betrayal scenarios for both Conrad and Alaina. But these are simply the conventions of plotting a novella, a game.

And if you think rationally, the question of whose skull should be smashed with the goblet doesn't even arise. Because Conrad threatens Elis rule simply by his very existence.
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Google Translate - English is not my native language.

I haven't fully explored all the options in version 0.11 yet, but...
... - it's Game of Thrones in the world of visual novels.
TTTOOOPPP!!!!
It's a blast. A game similar to this in terms of plot intensity and epic variations simply doesn't exist yet. SPOILERS for version 0.11 below:
In a nutshell, here are my impressions and five screenshots from the animations of the three routes – the final choices of this Chapter 1:
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Google Translate - English is not my native language.

I haven't fully explored all the options in version 0.11 yet, but...
... - it's Game of Thrones in the world of visual novels.
TTTOOOPPP!!!!
It's a blast. A game similar to this in terms of plot intensity and epic variations simply doesn't exist yet. SPOILERS for version 0.11 below:
In a nutshell, here are my impressions and five screenshots from the animations of the three routes – the final choices of this Chapter 1:
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its the evolution my friend in 2027 if any devs not using ai they will be left behind in content etc only nsfw for now is limited with ai
but in future it will be not because grok make sure this happen on day 25 oct denying spicy mode if search reddit about ai nsfw etc long story
now another ai big rival have a chance to competition allowing nsfw but sure they need the ai control some ''evil guys'' using nsfw for darkweb shits
 
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Do we already know if creampieing Cass in this last update will result in pregnancy? I'm inclined to skip family dinner for it, if that's the case :cool:
 

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Do we already know if creampieing Cass in this last update will result in pregnancy? I'm inclined to skip family dinner for it, if that's the case :cool:
Well, the script tracks the amount of times you finish inside Cass - just like it did for Lia - but outside of that, no special variable is set.

In Lia's case, it was used to determine if the physician would tell you she had a miscarriage or not - but it only checked if you came inside her at least once.

I am guessing the same will be true for Cassandra's pregnancy: when it happens, it will check if you finished inside at least once. Or, since Cass is Cass, if you kissed her or not :p
 

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Well, the script tracks the amount of times you finish inside Cass - just like it did for Lia - but outside of that, no special variable is set.

In Lia's case, it was used to determine if the physician would tell you she had a miscarriage or not - but it only checked if you came inside her at least once.

I am guessing the same will be true for Cassandra's pregnancy: when it happens, it will check if you finished inside at least once. Or, since Cass is Cass, if you kissed her or not :p
I should be in the clear then. Thanks (y)
 
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In Lia's case, it was used to determine if the physician would tell you she had a miscarriage or not
... interesting. Glad I pulled out.
Does this news of a miscarriage have any consequences? Like a disappointed look from Mommy Dearest?
 
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