VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.11] [Lazy Monkey]

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sabo93 said:
yeah.. Elin has definitly a yandere behavor, better not ignored her jealousy , romancing her or not either way i feel in the long run she will try to kill our wife or even one of her mage friend ..be careful Corina:eek:
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It's very funny, but I even see the flaw in the game in the fallacy of your point of view. The game would be more fun if Elin was a yanedere or a yangire.
Is Elin a yandere? Why do you think so? What are the reasons for thinking so?

She's too much of a good girl. I even consider that a flaw.
She literally refuses the help of servants. She supports the republic and the ideas of freedom. She's against solving problems through violence.
Even in the scene after you give her the ring after the ball, if you choose (power) and (not overstepping boundaries),
She says, "You're right, you're right about everything, I'm just too weak to reason and act like you."
Is this yandere behavior in your opinion?

In fact, the plot allows us to roleplay as a yandere towards her. If player wants her to be with us, the Protagonist must be proactive and persistent, cunning, and threatening towards Lockhart.
But Elin herself behaves more like a Disney princess – moping, crying on her knees, and complaining about how unfair the world is.

Yes, in the latest updates, she's finally showing a bit of character, showing jealousy, and talking about how she'll kill our wife.
Throughout the current content, she's not a yandere. Maybe in the future. Right now, not.

Elin is my favorite character in the harem, but her gentleness and lack of cruelty are her downsides.
I hope the story gives us the opportunity to properly corrupt her. Not into a full-blown yandere, because her jealousy would be a hindrance in the harem. It would be great to forge her into a personal pocket executioner-archmage.
Corrupt her to the point of forcing her to kill Lockhart herself.
 
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To me it is surprised to see so many people want cass and alaina dead. For a harem based game the player just usually want to collect every possible Li as many as they can, deduct Lis from the story is kind of rare.
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I play this game as more of a story focused type than just a harem game. At least with certain playthroughs I have for it. For me, killing Cass and now Alaina is more about pushing back against fate. How dare these mysterious entities tell me what I can't do? It's not some shit like "Oh my god, she lied to me or kept secrets. Let me kill her!". My mission is to exterminate all 3 snakes because the gods don't want me to for their own purpose. But in my view, that will be the only way Elis will be truly free from their strings. As we saw in the vision when in the west. The entities seem to abandon timelines where Elis don't meet their expectations. Deeming it a failure.

So my intentions is to free my Elis from fate. To seek true freedom to do what I want and not be caught in-between these entities game. And this is by no means some new take from me. I've always questioned in this thread why I have to care about making it work with the 3 snakes. That I shouldn't have to bend over backwards for their happiness. My personal happiness is more important and if they get in the way of that, they're going to die.

One might think killing them is playing into the hands of the other Moon/Forest Entity, but that's not exactly the case. Like I hoped, there's a loophole with the snakes. Indirectly killing them or them dying from other causes doesn't negatively affect Elis. So neither entity wins the game. They'll have to try their luck with another timeline or suffer a stalemate until Elis dies naturally. Which is like a whole century or slightly more. Some might mention Alaina being killed directly, but this is more to see if she's indeed a snake like I suspect. If she is, I'm sure there's going to also be a way to kill her without Elis doing it personally in the future. If she isn't, then she can live.
 
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FalconLover420 said:
The only people I trust is Elin, the Fix Cass in White Coronation, Lia and Seraphina (She has proven her loyalty which is her family).

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Ayyy, I have same exact 4. I would only add Aurora to that, but she's still not QUITE as high as the other 4 right now.

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FalconLover420 said:
The only people I trust is Elin, the Fix Cass in White Coronation, Lia and Seraphina (She has proven her loyalty which is her family).

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Many people here are forming a negative attitude toward Alaina simply because of her question: "Do you trust me, Elis?" That's a bad question for her to ask.
Because the obvious and rational answer is, of course, no.
There's no trust in someone who hid such a wealth of information.
But the world isn't black and white.

You're all simply ignoring the fact that even his mother hid this important information from him, so what? Should we just beat her into a bloody pulp with a goblet too?

Decisions need to be based on facts, not emotional responses.
And the fact is that no one, literally no one, has done more for Elis rule than Alaina.
If her lies, her manipulations, her intrigues, her murders led to Elis coronation, then it was worth it.

To understand how an individual will act, you need to understand their motivation. Alaina's motivation is obvious: to give the elves a better life. And for that, Elis is needed on the throne. As a half-human, to be accepted by humans. As a half-elf, to be accepted by the elves.

The next fact is that Konrad's very position, in the light of this information, is dangerous for Elis. He rightly said that if Konrad finds proof of all this lies, Elis will be dethroned as an illegitimate king, and Konrad himself will ascend to the throne as the only legitimate heir.

The point is that Alaina cannot use this information to harm Elis, as she is part of this conspiracy. She is literally in the same boat with him, and if they sink, they will sink together. Moreover, not only will Alaina suffer, but the elves will also be discredited.

And she herself is useful. How much effort has she already invested in Elis? How many people has she killed for his rule?
And how many more will she kill?
Who is using whom here? Who is manipulating whom here? Who benefits whom more here? All Elis needs is to pin Alaina down. He literally has more power; he can force her to act openly.

But Conrad, no matter how you feel about him, is in a very good position. Because plans must be made based on the worst-case scenario. The worst-case scenario for Elis is if Conrad truly desires the throne. The very existence of this possibility seals his death warrant.
Because we cannot guarantee Conrad's loyalty.

Obviously, the author will prepare betrayal scenarios for both Conrad and Alaina. But these are simply the conventions of plotting a novella, a game.

And if you think rationally, the question of whose skull should be smashed with the goblet doesn't even arise. Because Conrad threatens Elis rule simply by his very existence.
 
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it would be nice to progress further in the story but with this many variables and different paths i feel like the updates are just 5minutes long ... and then we get boring mommy scenes
 
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lesnO56 said:
Many people here are forming a negative attitude toward Alaina simply because of her question: "Do you trust me, Elis?" That's a bad question for her to ask.
Because the obvious and rational answer is, of course, no.
There's no trust in someone who hid such a wealth of information.
But the world isn't black and white.

You're all simply ignoring the fact that even his mother hid this important information from him, so what? Should we just beat her into a bloody pulp with a goblet too?

Decisions need to be based on facts, not emotional responses.
And the fact is that no one, literally no one, has done more for Elis rule than Alaina.
If her lies, her manipulations, her intrigues, her murders led to Elis coronation, then it was worth it.

To understand how an individual will act, you need to understand their motivation. Alaina's motivation is obvious: to give the elves a better life. And for that, Elis is needed on the throne. As a half-human, to be accepted by humans. As a half-elf, to be accepted by the elves.

The next fact is that Konrad's very position, in the light of this information, is dangerous for Elis. He rightly said that if Konrad finds proof of all this lies, Elis will be dethroned as an illegitimate king, and Konrad himself will ascend to the throne as the only legitimate heir.

The point is that Alaina cannot use this information to harm Elis, as she is part of this conspiracy. She is literally in the same boat with him, and if they sink, they will sink together. Moreover, not only will Alaina suffer, but the elves will also be discredited.

And she herself is useful. How much effort has she already invested in Elis? How many people has she killed for his rule?
And how many more will she kill?
Who is using whom here? Who is manipulating whom here? Who benefits whom more here? All Elis needs is to pin Alaina down. He literally has more power; he can force her to act openly.

But Conrad, no matter how you feel about him, is in a very good position. Because plans must be made based on the worst-case scenario. The worst-case scenario for Elis is if Conrad truly desires the throne. The very existence of this possibility seals his death warrant.
Because we cannot guarantee Conrad's loyalty.

Obviously, the author will prepare betrayal scenarios for both Conrad and Alaina. But these are simply the conventions of plotting a novella, a game.

And if you think rationally, the question of whose skull should be smashed with the goblet doesn't even arise. Because Conrad threatens Elis rule simply by his very existence.
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nah I would kill both they are both danger in own way, alania would pupet the mc, conrad can steal his throne. and yes I killed cass too.
 
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Oninn said:
nah I would kill both they are both danger in own way, alania would pupet the mc, conrad can steal his throne. and yes I killed cass too.
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Conrad could've stole the throne if he wanted, if realistically speaking. Considering he is one of the children of the Red Emperor, he is probably seen as the 'ideal' heir among some vassals and the court because of that. Oh, he also leads the King Guard's, though they sucked ass looking at how easy was the coup to succeed even without Elis. And he is a "human" which is probably the biggest advantage he has over Elis.

Though when you think about it, Alaina is probably the only obstacle in his way. That's probably why Ludwig said prolong the status quo as much as you can. Let Alaina and Conrad eat each other, they'll get weaker no matter who wins the quarrel.
 
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Conrad could've stole the throne if he wanted, if realistically speaking. Considering he is one of the children of the Red Emperor and probably the 'favorite' among some vassals and the court because of that. Oh, he also leads the King Guard's, though they sucked ass looking at how easy was the coup to succeed even without Elis. And he is a "human" which is probably the biggest advantage he has over Elis.

Though when you think about it, Alaina is probably the only obstacle in his way. That's probably why Ludwig said prolong the status quo as much as you can. Let Alaina and Conrad eat each other, they'll get weaker no matter who wins the quarrel.
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Yeah I also think keeping the status quo is the best move for now, let the 2 keep each other in check at least until we are in a solid position after being crowned. Alaina can keep trying to "offer wisdom" herself or goading Seraphina to do that for her, but we don't have to listen to either of them, and Conrad hasn't tried anything even while we were in the west and the king was in a coma so I doubt he will try anything at this point after we received the western fealty.
 
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lesnO56 said:
Should we just beat her into a bloody pulp with a goblet too?
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Honestly, this part bothered me so much that I rolled back and exiled her instead. With how I played the MC, him becoming entirely unhinged just didn't feel right. I usually keep the choices I make, but I just couldn't in this case.

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If her lies, her manipulations, her intrigues, her murders led to Elis coronation, then it was worth it.
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From a pure utilitarian perspective, you're right. But the ends don't have to justify the means. Alaine has a lot of power and influence over the MC due to being a quasi-mother figure during his exile. There's also no telling what she'd do if he'd make a ruling that rubs her the wrong way. What would it take for her to turn on him? Elves live long lives and might be playing the long game.

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But Conrad, no matter how you feel about him, is in a very good position. Because plans must be made based on the worst-case scenario. The worst-case scenario for Elis is if Conrad truly desires the throne. The very existence of this possibility seals his death warrant.
Because we cannot guarantee Conrad's loyalty.
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We cannot guarantee Alaine's either. Is there any guarantee that she won't kill us when she decides our son is more likely to rule in her favor? Do we even want her to influence his education?

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Though when you think about it, Alaina is probably the only obstacle in his way. That's probably why Ludwig said prolong the status quo as much as you can. Let Alaina and Conrad eat each other, they'll get weaker no matter who wins the quarrel.
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This also reminds me of the warning about the snakes... That if one snake is taken out, the others will strangle each other. Maybe it's a warning that the snakes need to remain for a status quo, that none of their influence can dictate the MC's fate as long as they all remain.
 
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We cannot guarantee Alaine's either. Is there any guarantee that she won't kill us when she decides our son is more likely to rule in her favor? Do we even want her to influence his education?
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Personally I find that very unlikely to happen. Especially if Isis is the mother. She'd probably kill Alaina herself. And either way Elis's child is going to be more human than elf and less likely to have elven support.
 
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falconhawk223 said:
Personally I find that very unlikely to happen. Especially if Isis is the mother. She'd probably kill Alaina herself. And either way Elis's child is going to be more human than elf and less likely to have elven support.
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Isis aside, the nature of Elis' child matters less than his nurture, I think. Sure, he couldn't be emotionally manipulated for being a half-elf, but his education could be more liberal/progressive than that of his ancestors. Certainly if we sided with the rebels in the West (which felt very reminiscent of the French Revolution), it's not farfetched to think that this liberal mindset would spread. Even more if it's an economic success, if it raises everyone's quality of life.
It doesn't matter who the elves support, because the elves require help. If Elis won't help them, then his offspring would be their next best chance. Unless, of course, Elis wipes them all out.
 
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