Filipis

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If that’s true, it’s nice to see that LM includes some actual consequences for inbreeding. Knowing MC, he’d probably keep inbreeding until the dynasty unlocks that divine pure-blooded trait from CK3 :KEK:
I don't think this is the consequence of inbreeding (reminder that first-generation offspring of incest are statistically speaking only barely higher at risk of genetic defects. However, repeated inbreeding is what exponentially increases that chance), but rather has something to do with Selina being able to realize she is in a vision and even overpower Mirta's influence - a freakin' deity.

Selina is crazy powerful.
 

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That’s the problem when sometimes the developers starts introducing too many love interests: there just aren’t enough renders for everyone.
It's a really big pet peeve of mine, too many LIs just dilutes everything. Lots of games have completely non-sensical stories just for the MC to have a harem.

In this game though there's a clear role that Elis has: a prince and heir. So lots of LIs make sense because concubines. And because of that role, the most important and main LIs are also clear: the ones in the castle, and his family of course.
 

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Not that I agree or disagree with you, but are you referring to the reflection on surface of the serving dish lid? Because if so you can't really use that as proof. Even if the image wasn't distorted by the convex surface (which is very likely), it might be a rendering error.
You may be right, but i doubt it's a rendering error, because in another render Selina has the same expression in the reflection on the lid
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You may be right, but i doubt it's a rendering error, because in another render Selina has the same expression in the reflection on the lid
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Who knows. The dev's big on twisted reflections / showing alternate or opposite versions of people like those past/present/future visions the MC got.
 

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I tried to continue playing, and feels like it gets worse, and it just doesn't make sense how many scenes are class locked to me.

I literally miss 5 Lia scenes. Why is it so many, its just upsetting how much you skip, cause you didn't go bookworm. I just don't get it.
That's how it goes though, so you'll replay as Bookworm.

Play as mage and you get all the extra Elin stuff with portals, their telepathic link and Alaina extras.

Play as Warrior and get the early encounter with Isis, the Elin masturbate scene, etc

Play as Bookworm and get Sona stuff, the early encounter with Aurora, the extra Lia scenes, deciphering Elvish, etc.
 

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That's how it goes though, so you'll replay as Bookworm.

Play as mage and you get all the extra Elin stuff with portals, their telepathic link and Alaina extras.

Play as Warrior and get the early encounter with Isis, the Elin masturbate scene, etc

Play as Bookworm and get Sona stuff, the early encounter with Aurora, the extra Lia scenes, deciphering Elvish, etc.
Its just dumb, I get side girls or some minor things or additons, but Lia is a main LI. It shouldn't skip that much content, just cause of one chosen class.

It makes this game so much worse I thought it was just a couple scenes, but why even have Lia as a LI, if you don't get any content with her except for one class.

She is the only Main girl to lose lewd scenes and romance based on class besides that one Elin scene, everyone else is based on choices pretty much. Everything else is just extra minor stuff like portals, etc.

If we are going this way lock all stuff Elin to mage and all things warrior to Cass, or make it fair at least.
 
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Its just dumb, I get side girls or some minor things or additons, but Lia is a main LI. It shouldn't skip that much content, just cause of one chosen class.

It makes this game so much worse I thought it was just a couple scenes, but why even have Lia as a LI, if you don't get any content with her.
I got plenty of content with Lia as a mage so I didn't really care about any of the extra stuff that I got from being a bookworm.

I actually like bookworm playthroughs the least despite liking Lia.
 
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I tried to continue playing, and feels like it gets worse, and it just doesn't make sense how many scenes are class locked to me.

I literally miss like 5 Lia scenes, unless bookworm. Why is it so many, its just upsetting how much you skip, cause you didn't go bookworm. I just don't get it.
the class locked content is good I think. what's the point of having to choose one of the classes if we can get all the content, might as well remove the whole class thing.
 

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the class locked content is good I think. what's the point of having to choose one of the classes if we can get all the content, might as well remove the whole class thing.
I disagree, there are already choices where we can't have all the content, like side girls, small bonus scenes, ring choice, bride choice, etc. That is not my problem.

My problem is Lia is the only main girl to have a significant amount of lewd and romance content locked off based on a class. You can still get like all Elin scenes excpet for one regardless of class same as Mom, and Cass.( They are choice based)

Lia is the only main girl to get constantly blocked off from certain content like that. Either lock the other sisters to specific paths more or loosen the grip on Lia scenes, to make it more fair.

I am fine with certain scenes or extra things, but locking off this much content with a main girl, when the other main girls don't get same treatment is wrong.
 

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how do i add both the incest patch and walkthrough in the game folder? it seems to wanna override each other.
 

Filipis

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I got plenty of content with Lia as a mage so I didn't really care about any of the extra stuff that I got from being a bookworm.

I actually like bookworm playthroughs the least despite liking Lia.
What's the mage-exclusive content with Lia as Mage? I thought only Bookworm got exclusive stuff with Lia?
 

Filipis

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I disagree, there are already choices where we can't have all the content, like side girls, small bonus scenes, ring choice, bride choice, etc. That is not my problem.

My problem is Lia is the only main girl to have a significant amount of lewd and romance content locked off based on a class. You can still get like all Elin scenes excpet for one regardless of class same as Mom, and Cass.( They are choice based)

Lia is the only main girl to get constantly blocked off from certain content like that. Either lock the other sisters to specific paths more or loosen the grip on Lia scenes, to make it more fair.

I am fine with certain scenes or extra things, but locking off this much content with a main girl, when the other main girls don't get same treatment is wrong.
You're thinking of this game as purely as you average harem AVN, but LM's idea behind the classes is to give a little bit of an RPG feel to the game; Warrior MC experiences the story a little bit differently from a Mage MC and Bookworm MC (IMHO, if you want the most informed MC, go Bookworm - translating Elvish really comes in handy to explain some mysteries & lore).

In that regard, it's a cool mechanic to have. And sure, you might miss some scenes, but they're never crucial to developing the romance with any of the main LIs. You can still have a relationship with Lia while a Warrior, and everything important with her happens just based on your choices; the classes are a little bit of spice added in here & there.

While I understand your plight, this game was created to be played multiple times - and none of the playthroughs are designed to have you be the King of the Hill. You will always be missing something.

P.S. If you really want to be frustrated, you should've been here when 0.6 update (the Coup) released: if you killed Cass before it starts, you got nothing for the update (it literally ended in 1 minute of gameplay: no scenes with Elin, Lia, or the Queen) - while allowing the Coup to happen meant you got more scenes with each of them. How's that for fairness? I consider the current state as the better compromise.
 

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Also I didnt download the incest patch I thought all of Monkey's game are just incest, after I played his last one, which had some of the best taboo dialogue and visuals. I was like "Stepmom???"

Hope the Incest patch is updated
 

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wow just wow, this update left me with some questions answered and more questions.
Selina while confirming she is my daughter is very cryptic on what is going on aside from stating do not trust the script.
Also your children's personality depends on the mother, its fun to witness that.

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it was a nice update tho, thanks!
 

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Oh fuck, my save is dead, now I will have to find one with all or most of my decisions.
 

Filipis

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I disagree, cause those choices like coup and other things are choices in game you can make. That is totally fine.

You say experience a little differently, yeah that is also fine, the problem is why is only Lia's scenes locked behind a class, and not other main girls. And I don't want to play bookworm, I just want a couple scenes added back at least to make it fair, cause once again, why isn't Elin locked to mage scenes mainly or Cass to Warrior. You can get all Elin's scenes except one based on choices not class.

You say I can still romance, what is the point of a romance if you skip all the content. What, I get 2 scenes, (skipping like 5) really great romance.:rolleyes:
Might as well just kill her off.

I just don't see why Lia has her content locked through class and others through only choice. It is the biggest disappointment and makes zero sense. Just treat her the same as the other main girls.

And as for replay, you can already do that, with which bride, coup choice, corruption and love, I shouldn't have to play a specific class or miss all of a Lia's scenes, cause it doesn't work that way for the other girls. Plus I don't have time to play every game 10 times, there are other games, life, etc. to do.
I mean, if you want to experience the full Elin romance, you want to be a Mage so you can travel worlds with her. all that stuff helps develop their relationship, even if it has no attached variables that the game keeps track of (except the telepathic link).

And I disagree about the Coup decision being "fine" - you literally just lose out on important lewd content, but also story beats. You miss out on Lia scenes, Elin scenes, and the hottest of them all - Queen's scenes. That's a pretty big fucking deal, if you ask me.

There is practically no benefit (still true, as of 1.0) to avoiding the Coup entirely, just as there is no consequence to be on the Queen's Corruption path prior to 0.8 (the bath scene). Somethings just get overlooked on such a tight development schedule. The game as a whole still rocks, but we can't ignore the 'cracks' here and there - some smaller than others.
 
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It says this is v1.0. Does that mean this VN is complete, as in that it is ready to be read fully without having to wait years?
Thanks for the info.
 
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