VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.11] [Lazy Monkey]

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Filipis

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DrakoGhoul said:
It would actually be way more work to do it completely separate from said preview scene. In my view. Because then he has to go through the trouble of setting up an entirely new scene beyond this one and then give a variant to that scene just for the sex slave stuff. When with the preview scene, he just has to give her variant dialogue and appearance, since the child should already be born, or close to it. And if she's not pregnant, nothing much changes with her appearance, as she still works for Alaina.

So it's do the same scene but change up the dialogue and maybe the appearance to account for her being love, sex slave and sex slave while pregnant. Which leads to the same sex scene, but with different dialogue. Or create an entirely different scene to accommodate her sex slave route. Now I'm not a dev, but one definitely sounds more easy and straightforward than the other. But that's just how I see it.
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You do realize just how much work you've described for a single side-girl scene, right?

First off, it has only been a few months after MC could impregnate Vall - she would be visibly pregnant, much like Aurora/Isis are. That would mean LM has to create a separate render for a pregnant Vall for the routes on which she is pregnant - and since that is only 1/3 paths with Valleria, I don't think it's happening. More likely is, this scene is for those that didn't execute Valleria and/or saved her from judgement only.

Maybe he surprises us all with those preggo variations, but then that's a lot of work spent on a side-girl; Rosa still hasn't even been shown or mentioned, or Spring - and even the wife of that villager that let us impregnate his wife & daughter on the way to the West was not made pregnant in a variation.
 
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Filipis said:
You do realize just how much work you've described for a single side-girl scene, right?

First off, it has only been a few months after MC could impregnate Vall - she would be visibly pregnant, much like Aurora/Isis are. That would mean LM has to create a separate render for a pregnant Vall for the routes on which she is pregnant - and since that is only 1/3 paths with Valleria, I don't think it's happening. More likely is, this scene is for those that didn't execute Valleria and/or saved her from judgement only.

Maybe he surprises us all with those preggo variations, but then that's a lot of work spent on a side-girl; Rosa still hasn't even been shown or mentioned, or Spring - and even the wife of that villager that let us impregnate his wife & daughter on the way to the West was not made pregnant in a variation.
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She's much farther along than Isis and Aurora. Elis can get her pregnant in the very first encounter. Of course, you can have another chance later, but I'm pretty sure she would still be farther along than Aurora and Isis.

Also, you do realize all of Val's encounters are like that right? If it was too much work, her past scenes wouldn't exist. What I'm mentioning is already in the game.

When you encounter her in the forest. You either rape her, impregnate her, or let her go. There's not a complete separate scene creation just for said encounter. Excluding perks, but that wouldn't play part in the later scenes.

When you're in the city with Alaina and free her. You rape her, impregnate her or talk about her new freedom. This is once again in the same area. He bends her over after Alaina leaves and fucks her. Alternatively, he just chats with her on the steps, if you're on the love side of things.

Under the assumption that the same pattern happens. It would follow the same logic as the first two Val scenes. You either get the love scene, rape her or get a blowjob (if she's still pregnant). All of which should happen after Alaina leaves.

That's how I see it though. I don't get how her being a side girl would affect this process when the dev has already did it twice now. The only difference would be if Val is pregnant or not. In which case, he could just outright skip the sex scene altogether and just add dialogue to the scene.
 
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DrakoGhoul said:
That's how I see it though. I don't get how her being a side girl would affect this process when the dev has already did it twice now. The only difference would be if Val is pregnant or not. In which case, he could just outright skip the sex scene altogether and just add dialogue to the scene.
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I would prefer val and her friend were planned to be the main Lis beside mc's family as they appeared in the very beginning of the story telling player about game's background, but later lazy monkey change his plan so val disappear for a long time after arrived the capital and her friend no showing again in the story.
 
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w123t4 said:
I would prefer val and her friend were planned to be the main Lis beside mc's family as they appeared in the very beginning of the story telling player about game's background, but later lazy monkey change his plan so val disappear for a long time after arrived the capital and her friend no showing again in the story.
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I don't quite feel the same way. While I like Val. I don't really consider her character interesting enough, story wise, to be a main character. Maybe she could get something interesting in the future, but I feel like it was settled when she was reduced to an assistant of Alaina. Especially since she seems to not be a special variant of Elf like Alaina, Sera and Celestine.

That said, with my new found paranoia of Alaina. How sure are we that she didn't secretly set this whole Val thing up from the start? Especially when she talked about some of the elves sacrificing themselves for the cause back in the day, just for a chance. God, this woman mind games might actually fuck my playthroughs over in the future. There's no telling what was planned and what wasn't anymore.
 
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I am curious. who went with sand desert waifu over snow desert waifu?

To me, it seems suicidal because she is very much going to put her clan in key positions and then they will assassinate your entire bloodline to take over the throne.
 
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DrakoGhoul said:
I don't quite feel the same way. While I like Val. I don't really consider her character interesting enough, story wise, to be a main character. Maybe she could get something interesting in the future, but I feel like it was settled when she was reduced to an assistant of Alaina. Especially since she seems to not be a special variant of Elf like Alaina, Sera and Celestine.

That said, with my new found paranoia of Alaina. How sure are we that she didn't secretly set this whole Val thing up from the start? Especially when she talked about some of the elves sacrificing themselves for the cause back in the day, just for a chance. God, this woman mind games might actually fuck my playthroughs over in the future. There's no telling what was planned and what wasn't anymore.
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Like I said, it is more like planned and cancelled so that she was get rid from the story and nothing interesting to dig anymore.
It is common to many games that the developer using one or some Li's face to talk to the player as an intro, then it will make sense why val have different scenes by different class of mc(or just lazy monkey trying to show the difference between different class in the early stage of game) but nothing in the later story if she was a Li before.
 
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We already know the future, in regards to Isis. So that fear is unfounded for Isis players. Elis "tamed" her. And unless something changes decades into the future, I don't see why any of us would be paranoid about her. Especially when they have an almost adult son and daughter together and she still hasn't killed him after all of that time.

The only bloodline of Elis that isn't safe are the bastards from other women. Isis made it clear that she doesn't care about him sleeping around, but bastards are a big no no for her. Which is actually pretty fair and reasonable of her.
 
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DrakoGhoul said:
We already know the future, in regards to Isis. So that fear is unfounded for Isis players. Elis "tamed" her. And unless something changes decades into the future, I don't see why any of us would be paranoid about her. Especially when they have an almost adult son and daughter together and she still hasn't killed him after all of that time.

The only bloodline of Elis that isn't safe are the bastards from other women. Isis made it clear that she doesn't care about him sleeping around, but bastards are a big no no for her. Which is actually pretty fair and reasonable of her.
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Even we saw the future before it doesn't mean it is not fake or fixed by the reflection, it can be changed otherwise the three doom future caused by cass, elin and lia will not be preventable.
Plus, the vision from the white blood make it clear that isis may not as tamed as we think, she still get his natural self below the surface.
 
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Speaking of aurora and isis, am I the only one who hope Zlata, Selina and Azalia can join the family harem in the future if possible? We already have the M-S and B-S element, why not add some F-D to make it more spicy?:p
 
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DrakoGhoul said:
She's much farther along than Isis and Aurora. Elis can get her pregnant in the very first encounter. Of course, you can have another chance later, but I'm pretty sure she would still be farther along than Aurora and Isis.

Also, you do realize all of Val's encounters are like that right? If it was too much work, her past scenes wouldn't exist. What I'm mentioning is already in the game.

When you encounter her in the forest. You either rape her, impregnate her, or let her go. There's not a complete separate scene creation just for said encounter. Excluding perks, but that wouldn't play part in the later scenes.

When you're in the city with Alaina and free her. You rape her, impregnate her or talk about her new freedom. This is once again in the same area. He bends her over after Alaina leaves and fucks her. Alternatively, he just chats with her on the steps, if you're on the love side of things.

Under the assumption that the same pattern happens. It would follow the same logic as the first two Val scenes. You either get the love scene, rape her or get a blowjob (if she's still pregnant). All of which should happen after Alaina leaves.

That's how I see it though. I don't get how her being a side girl would affect this process when the dev has already did it twice now. The only difference would be if Val is pregnant or not. In which case, he could just outright skip the sex scene altogether and just add dialogue to the scene.
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Just like in the case with Lia, first creampie doesn't mean she gets pregnant (or Lia would've been shown pregnant in 1.0, after a few months have passed since she had sex with Elis) right away.

And you're confusing scenes being extended vs different.

That said, I still hold firm that this preview shows a scene with Vall that you didn't impregnate. Whether or not there will be a preggo-variation is up to LM himself, but once again - I doubt he will go to that length. Vall simply isn't an important character nor has any lore implication for the story.
 
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