VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.11] [Lazy Monkey]

[Dessolos]

Why would you kill Cass off? Shes S Tier ride or die certified gf.

I only killed her on 3 of my 12 saves. Just to see the differences. But Cass is my favorite , fixed Cass is best Cass imo

Yea but the love route sucks compared to the corruption route.

I actually like the love route more I don't care for the corruption route or whatever tho that kind of goes for all the LI not just the mother. But I find I dislike the mother's corruption path the most , I only like 1 scene of the corruption path once you return from the West. However that isn't saying much I kind of dislike the entire path for the mother until you go West to begin with. The only difference for me is once the Love path starts when you agree in the elven ruins when out west I like every part of it from that point onward , while the corruption path only liked 1 scene when you return home.

 

[Malicre]

The scene was nice but the whole thing is a mess (and I love it since there is no black and white)
- Green Empire - team up with Cass for romance but politics essentially now revolves in you attempting to control the puppeteer or get controlled . I am not sure about the impact that brings to the rest of the family members.
- Red Empire - team up with Isis to bring forth the second coming of the red emperor
- Golden Order (Version A: you team up with a bannerlord to attempt to rescue your family and get the capital under control in exchange for some political power (You lose Aker and Cass - can kill or show mercy). Version B: Kill Cass and you bring peaceful transition of power and continue the status quo instead you are being guided by your mother and the elfs potentially).

PS: I am still not onboard with sympathizing with the elves due to bringing soothsayers that brought about the MC's exile or to kill him (none of this transpired due to cass), and Aliana's visit to cass in prison to share some "secret" knowledge that led to those actions.

Green Empire is by far the best path. There's a reason the dev has been giving dom and sub points for her because there potential there for her to become your biggest ally and while she starts out as a controlling monster she has her reasons for it, hell her family treated her as 2nd class trash so i really can't muster up any love for them outside elin so mom automatically goes into the corruption category for me.

I really dont get why people like the mothers character. Sure shes hot and all but just seeing the way they talked about Cass at the dinner table with her specifically saying something like "why would we invite her, shes not apart of the family" was kinda deal breaking.

The corruption mom route is great because shes a side piece at best.

 

[Dessolos]

I really dont get why people like the mothers character. Sure shes hot and all but just seeing the way they talked about Cass at the dinner table with her specifically saying something like "why would we invite her, shes not apart of the family" was kinda deal breaking for me.

100 % agree there the moment she said that about Cass was when she went to the bottom of my list I only play her path just to see it she is a content LI for me. I have trouble even understanding or seeing her pov about the spying and some other stuff when it comes to the MC after that. It took me up until the latest update to even trust her only because she helps against Alaina I am able to trust her again. That one line of dialogue kind of tainted her for me.

Only the Love Path I somewhat find her likeable but not enough to forget or forgive her for how she treats Cass.

So i really can't muster up any love for them outside elin so mom automatically goes into the corruption category for me.

same but include Lia and now Aurora ( the only wife I like)

 

[Malicre]

Only the Love Path I somewhat find her likeable but not enough to forget or forgive her for how she treats Cass.

I'd rather have her as a sex slave or concubine. Maybe one day threesome with Cass dominating her for revenge.

 

[GarudoSCHE]

I really dont get why people like the mothers character. Sure shes hot and all but just seeing the way they talked about Cass at the dinner table with her specifically saying something like "why would we invite her, shes not apart of the family" was kinda deal breaking.

You answered your own question: Because she's hot.
And yes, she's not a member of the current royal family, but that doesn't make her better or worse, it's just a fact. It becomes clear from the last episode that the Queen knew Regis had been replaced by his brother. Cass is a member of the royal dynasty, but not the ruling family.

 

[Malicre]

You answered your own question: Because she's hot.
And yes, she's not a member of the current royal family, but that doesn't make her better or worse, it's just a fact. It becomes clear from the last episode that the Queen knew Regis had been replaced by his brother. Cass is a member of the royal dynasty, but not the ruling family.

You're right but i wasn't talked about the actual facts, i was talking about her arrogance / attitude like her shit don't stink mentality.

 

[Dessolos]

You answered your own question: Because she's hot.
And yes, she's not a member of the current royal family, but that doesn't make her better or worse, it's just a fact. It becomes clear from the last episode that the Queen knew Regis had been replaced by his brother. Cass is a member of the royal dynasty, but not the ruling family.

For me that kind of makes it worst that she treated Cass that way. As growing up the MC and Cass treated each other like brother and sister ( family) I believe Elin and Lia too. I don't think Cass even knows the truth. While I understand why she would never tell them the truth it kind of makes her seem more cold to do so , would be more understandable if they knew that bit of info. But for the kids to believe a lie like that and to come home to say she isn't family makes her seem unlikeable to me.

 

[GarudoSCHE]

For me that kind of makes it worst that she treated Cass that way. As growing up the MC and Cass treated each other like brother and sister ( family) I believe Elin and Lia too. I don't think Cass even knows the truth. While I understand why she would never tell them the truth it kind of makes her seem more cold to do so , would be more understandable if they knew that bit of info. But for the kids to believe a lie like that and to come home to say she isn't family makes her seem unlikeable to me.

Cass doesn't know the truth; she was manipulated just like her mother. Of all the family members who know the truth at the moment, it's Seraphina and Mc. And the king, but no one cares about him

Seraphina's statements are understandable: For nobles and ruling families, blood is the most important thing, and from Seraphina's perspective, Cass is nothing to her. It doesn't matter whether she's Elis's sister or cousin. We may not like it, but life is complicated.

 

[Dessolos]

Seraphina's statements are understandable: For nobles and ruling families, blood is the most important thing, and from Seraphina's perspective, Cass is nothing to her. It doesn't matter whether she's Elis's sister or cousin. We may not like it, but life is complicated.

I agree and disagree . Yeah I can't blame her 100% cause you are right about that , it's just the hard truth about nobility. However I feel she doesn't need to be , cold mean / rude about it either. That's where my problem is with it. Cause she could of chosen to simply fake it Infront of the MC and the rest of the family and just choose to not help or treat her like family in private. I would of found that way more understandable and she would come across less unlikeable since there is a valid reason for it , even tho I would of still found her a bit unlikeable for treating Cass like trash until I see Cass deserved it / there was a valid reason.

 

[Malicre]

Imma be completely real with you guys.

Sona Best Girl. Ill take the hot vampire mommy any day of the week. Its a shame she doesn't have more content.

 

[Filipis]

I agree and disagree . Yeah I can't blame her 100% cause you are right about that , it's just the hard truth about nobility. However I feel she doesn't need to be , cold mean / rude about it either. That's where my problem is with it. Cause she could of chosen to simply fake it Infront of the MC and the rest of the family and just choose to not help or treat her like family in private. I would of found that way more understandable and she would come across less unlikeable since there is a valid reason for it , even tho I would of still found her a bit unlikeable for treating Cass like trash until I see Cass deserved it / there was a valid reason.

If Seraphina was able to be calm & collected like that, she wouldn’t end up becoming her own son’s lover

 

[Malicre]

If Seraphina was able to be calm & collected like that, she wouldn’t end up becoming her own son’s lover

That's what the corruption route is for my boy.

 

[falconhawk223]

actually like the love route more I don't care for the corruption route or whatever tho that kind of goes for all the LI not just the mother. But I find I dislike the mother's corruption path the most

Imo I hate the love and like the corruption route. And this is coming from someone who hates corruption based games. The love route is really slow and boring and it just feels like the mom did a 180. Normally I wouldn't even bother with the corruption route but I think the queen's love content is some of the worst content in the royal family overall. Only the scene the last chapter was passable

Aurora ( the only wife I like)

I can't bring myself to like Aurora either. I liked her date and I liked in her introduction, but every scene after that and is pretty bad. She's like the definition of milquetoast

 

[Dessolos]

Imma be completely real with you guys.

Sona Best Girl. Ill take the hot vampire mommy any day of the week. Its a shame she doesn't have more content.

I kind of do want more Content with her and Spring more so Sona. Tho I dunno if she would be my favorite Cass and Elin are such good character to me should would have to be a damn good character to beat them. Even Lia and I don't like romancing her at all. While what she does have is good not enough to decide anything sadly since looks don't matter to me.

 

[GarudoSCHE]

Imma be completely real with you guys.

Sona Best Girl. Ill take the hot vampire mommy any day of the week. Its a shame she doesn't have more content.

The fact that her relationship is factored into the chapter's outcome gives me hope that there will be more content with her in the future.

 

[Dessolos]

Imo I hate the love and like the corruption route. And this is coming from someone who hates corruption based games. The love route is really slow and boring and it just feels like the mom did a 180. Normally I wouldn't even bother with the corruption route but I think the queen's love content is some of the worst content in the royal family overall. Only the scene the last chapter was passable

well my problem with the corruption route is I don't like the way the MC acts in it. I do agree with the Love path not being as good as Elin's path at least. However I still prefer the Love path over Lia's path not sure about Cass I like her for the character but not so much for her path. For me Cass's path when it comes to romance and sex is just a little better than Lia's , any side girl or the mother's corruption path.

I can't bring myself to like Aurora either. I liked her date and I liked in her introduction, but every scene after that and is pretty bad. She's like the definition of milquetoast

Where we differ for sure I haven't found anything about her path that is bad for me. Then again she is kind of my type of LI if im being honest. Even if I like Cass or Elin more as characters Aurora is more of my type. I kind of wish we had more Aurora content that wasn't just sex.

 

[falconhawk223]

well my problem with the corruption route is I don't like the way the MC acts in it. I do agree with the Love path not being as good as Elin's path at least. However I still prefer the Love path over Lia's path not sure about Cass I like her for the character but not so much for her path. For me Cass's path when it comes to romance and sex is just a little better than Lia's , any side girl or the mother's corruption path.

He pretty much acts the same way in the corruption route that he does normally which is one of the issues I have with the love route in the first place. Both Elis and Sera act out of character and then they pretty much have sex out of the blue despite Sera being super against it before that. I'd rather just not romance the queen at all on the love route imo. At least on the corruption route the queen at least seems into it

I kind of wish we had more Aurora content that wasn't just sex.

It's the non sex content I'm talking about that's bad. It's just Aurora getting shit on by everyone while failing to do anything impactful. Like there is literally no point in the character existing other than to give us an official heir. Say what you want about Isis, but at least she does stuff and tries to take an active role in the plot. Everything with Aurora just makes me wish the stupid arranged marriage was not a thing at all. We already have enough female characters that do not do anything besides wait around for the MC in these stories. Be defiant, help Elis, do something at least. Likewise, I think Cass's best path is the green path because again she also takes an active role and does stuff while still having moments of vulnerability and having a softer side.


I do not like the prisoner route for her except for the "I can fix her" type of people. Cass in the green path is a badass. Her in jail is just there so you can feel sorry for her and pat yourself on the back for trying to make her better. I cannot stand these types of female characters that do not do anything and just exist to be doted on and fuck the male lead. Especially something that is supposed to be "Game of Thrones" like palace intrigue. It would be somewhat ok if this was some sort of suburb slice of life type game and not something with an actual plot.

 

[Dessolos]

He pretty much acts the same way in the corruption route that he does normally which is one of the issues I have with the love route in the first place. Both Elis and Sera act out of character and then they pretty much have sex out of the blue despite Sera being super against it before that. I'd rather just not romance the queen at all on the love route imo. At least on the corruption route the queen at least seems into it

if im being 100% honest this game would be better to me if the mother / Queen and Lia weren't lewdable but just characters in the story. I just prefer the love route simply because the MC's acts a bit to creepy to me in the corruption path even if stuff happens to quickly in the Love path I would take that over the corruption path because of that. Which is why most of my saves are the Love path for her.

I don't the prisoner route for her except for the "I can fix her" type of people. Cass in the green path is a badass, her in jail is just there so you can feel sorry for her and path yourself on the back for trying to make her better. I can't stand these type of female characters that don't do anything and just exist to be doted on and fuck the male lead. Especially something that's supposed to be "game of thrones" like palace intrigue

I actually prefer the Cass fix / prison path than the other one because when you come back you can see the character change and how it was a good thing for her. If im being honest I don't like Cass very much in the Coup path but she is starting to get better in it for me. Yeah she may be more badass but I don't like how she acts towards the MC in it.

It's the non sex content I'm talking about that's bad. It's just Aurora getting shit on by everyone while failing to do anything impactful. Like there is literally no point in the character existing other than to give us an official heir. Say what you want about Isis, but at least she does stuff and tries to take an active role in the plot. Everything with Aurora just makes me wish the stupid arranged marriage was not a thing at all. We already have enough female characters that do not do anything besides wait around for the MC in these stories. Be defiant, help Elis, do something at least. Likewise, I think Cass's best path is the green path because again she also takes an active role and does stuff while still having moments of vulnerability and having a softer side.

I won't disagree there but it's not bad enough it stops me from liking her she just isn't near the top of my favorite list. Even if I don't like Isis at all I have to admit she has a much better role. Isis should of just been the defaulted wife for story telling purpose even if I prefer the other

 

[Malicre]

I'd rather just not romance the queen at all on the love route imo. At least on the corruption route the queen at least seems into it

The corruption scenes with the queen are soooooo much better.

 

[DontBeAfraidKid]

40% Additionally LM mentioned he will included both Valeria scene and Wife scene in 0.12 as they both were pretty close in the voting poll.