VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.8] [Lazy Monkey]

[dkatryl]

Y'all are still debating that dude?

After the same argument has been remade in multiple posts with no end in sight, and then devolved into the usual shilling accusations, I recommend the ignore feature.

I had great results with it!

 

[Alan Dalles]

Again, this is not about pleasing everyone, this is about game development philosophy - don't offer choices that lead nowhere, just to have a choice. It is not meaningful, only deceptive.

Besides, there's a humongous difference in having a 'shorter' path (comparatively) based on different choices, but in this case, the difference in question was staggering:
-> Spare Cass (0.5) -> A -> B -> C -> D -> E -> F -> Corronation.
-> Kill Cass (0.5) -> A -> Corronation.

If that isn't laughable, I don't know what is...

For example, in the AAA game Far Cry 4 you can simply stay and enjoy the crab rangoon in the beginning and get the secret ending:

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Besides, choice (Kill Cass) has a few plot's concequences: 1) Sign that as the plot unfolds, MC will return to the burial site ("Do you memorize this place?"); 2) It's a second wrong choice (First - alliance with Cass) for Ludwig (disruption of nature balance), which will affect on the West's trip.

 

[Filipis]

Dude this developer releases his game almost every 2 months, if you want for him to develop every route equally it would stretch the game development cycle to 3-4 months at best. This game is free not because you are pirating it, but because he himself gives it for free every 2 months on a good quality level overall. So it's not without a reason to give the developer some leniency, or you can play Being a Dik, oh wait it's not out yet.

Then don't write parallel storylines that can't be achieved within a 2-month dev cycle.

I can't be blamed for asking the developer to put something on my plate as well, when he's handing out free meals to everybody else.

 

[Filipis]

For example, in the AAA game Far Cry 4 you can simply stay and enjoy the crab rangoon in the beginning and get the secret ending:

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Besides, choice (Kill Cass) has a few plot's concequences: 1) Sign that as the plot unfolds, MC will return to the burial site ("Do you memorize this place?"); 2) It's a second wrong choice (First - alliance with Cass) for Ludwig (disruption of nature balance), which will affect on the West's trip.

Come on, that is clearly intended to be more of an easter egg than a "canon" path.

And I understand there might be some unique consequences on the "Kill Cass" path (which I am eagerly awaiting), after which I will gladly eat my words here and donate a hefty sum to LM...

... but all of LM's behaviour indicates that I won't live to see a patch dedicated solely to dealing with that particular state of affairs like the Coup was.

Thank you for acknowledging me.

 

[icedogg]

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Hi. I recently moved to a new location, so I missed a couple of days of development. But now I'm back to my old pace. I also created two backups for myself on a specially purchased hard drive and online storage, so there will be no more precedents like with the Queen's event in 0.7.

Thank you so much for your support!

 

[ljabc]

to be honest,I just care the queen

 

[josh963]

This dev deserves every subscription he gets... and even more

 

[PaPaPantagruel]

There is only one doubt residing in me.... why the fuck would you kill Cass? She is the best thing in the game. Do you have cum in your brains by any chance?

Red King all the way baby! Ya know what they say, power is the most potent aphrodisiac...

 

[With The]

as MC porn vn, your job is making all the girl become your hareem lmao

 

[Glebonwski]

I hope for an update this week, this game is absolute cinema

 

[burbero]

to be honest,I just care the queen

Elizabeth II would be proud of you.

 

[camube]

I will continue, as long as people like you keep shilling for a game like this, and refuse to acknowledge a mistake. And this isn't about me personally being punished, this is about game development principles: Not offering a "reward" or "incentive" for making a different choice is "punishing" a player, simple as. And if you're not willing to make content for every "meaningful" choice you offer, then why bother offering that choice in the first place?

shit load of AVN games are like this tho. even the highly-rated ones like Eternum

 

[Filipis]

shit load of AVN games are like this tho. even the highly-rated ones like Eternum

To be fair, Eternum is a fairly kinetic novel. You can't really make a wrong choice (unless you purposefully don't want to romance some girls), and AFAIK you can't "lose" either. It's not nearly the no.1 reason why that game is so highly-rated.

 

[JackBrazen1]

What happened to the blonde elf you captured (Val) and her pretty redhead friend (Alessa) who stole the horse? Last scene you help her pee and tied her back to the tree then she's never mentioned or seen again. Did Lazy Monkey just get lazy with the story? Really hoped they would be part of it. At least a brief explanation of her sentence to bring closure.

 

[Youtiy]

What happened to the blonde elf you captured (Val) and her pretty redhead friend (Alessa) who stole the horse? Last scene you help her pee and tied her back to the tree then she's never mentioned or seen again. Did Lazy Monkey just get lazy with the story? Really hoped they would be part of it. At least a brief explanation of her sentence to bring closure.

She show's up again quite a bit later out of nowhere, though she is a side character so while not great that she was neglected for so long it does make a degree of sense given priority's.

 

[JackBrazen1]

She show's up again quite a bit later out of nowhere, though she is a side character so while not great that she was neglected for so long it does make a degree of sense given priority's.

Ok, thanks. Starting ep5 and it's been nagging at me since it was left without explanation. Her and her friend would have been a good story for LI.

 

[Youtiy]

Ok, thanks. Starting ep5 and it's been nagging at me since it was left without explanation. Her and her friend would have been a good story for LI.

Very true, maybe if there's enough player demand for it? Doubt it though, does feel like a missed opportunity.

 

[joolfoold]

Lazy_Monkey I really enjoy this game art and plot, i hope you keep developing this project for a long time. cheers

 

[justheretopirate]

Nah, I don't care if the branches ever connect back or stay "meaningfully" separate until the end, I just don't want to be punished for making a choice. Even if you're trying to tell a dark & gritty story, at the end of the day, this is a "game" - if I killed Cass on the spot, then don't "punish" me for making that choice by telling me to go sit in a corner and wait for my turn to play the game.

You can "punish" a player by not withholding content from them, too.

But that does not happen. If you kill Cass, the next update which was 0.6, has the same exact amount of content and renders as if Cass is alive. There are unique wife scenes that is only available if Cass is killed, you do not get those scenes if she is alive. I am talking about ISIS scenes, specifically in dead cass/red emperor path. If cass is alive you get totally different scenes with Cass.

Just to be clear I am talking about killing Cass right before the coronation not not in the inn. Yea if you kill Cass in the Inn the next update which was 0.5 is quite short, because the entire cass plot is removed.

 

[Filipis]

Just to be clear I am talking about killing Cass right before the coronation not not in the inn. Yea if you kill Cass in the Inn the next update which was 0.5 is quite short, because the entire cass plot is removed.

As was I.

Killing Cass at the end of the 0.5 update means you get to skip over 0.6, and go straight into 0.7 content, which felt horrible as a player.

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I'd say that last one is a pretty big fucking deal, which LM promptly ignored in 0.7 to "equalize" her path, which is not a good move either.