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storm1051787

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I'm a sucker for fantasy AVNs, but I've read that there's branching in the game, could someone tell me how heavy it is?

Basically I'm curious how much of the full game I'm going to miss because of the branching. An estimate is fine.
I only play games once and I don't replay them so if I'm going to miss a lot of content I rather not play it at all.

Also does this game have a scene replay gallery? So I'll be able to at least see the missed scenes that way.

Thanks!


So far we haven't really seen the whole effect of a lot of branching and a lot of stuff happens on every route but how it got to that point changes depending on what choices you make. Some chapters branch more than others, like the last chapter had 3 different branches for how you resolve a crisis. The crisis is resolved either way but we have yet to see the overall impact of how the mc resolved it. It is 100% impossible to get every scene on the same save though, some scenes only happen based on what background you pick and there is a political marriage the mc has later where you're given the choice of two princess and you obviously only end up married to one of them. The other one disappears from the game after you make that choice and returns home.


Although I'm kind of confused what you mean by replaying. For every route based VN I've played I just make multiple save files and play them in tandem. I don't restart the game again from the very beginning each time. I typically have a preference for one the routes though and the other routes are usually more for me to see what I missed. Though sometimes I switch which branch is my main. For every Renpy game I recommend having multiple saves
 
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So far we haven't really seen the whole effect of a lot of branching and a lot of stuff happens on every route but how it got to that point changes depending on what choices you make. Some chapters branch more than others, like the last chapter had 3 different branches for how you resolve a crisis. The crisis is resolved either way but we have yet to see the overall impact of how the mc resolved it. It is 100% impossible to get every scene on the same save though, some scenes only happen based on what background you pick and there is a political marriage the mc has later where you're given the choice of two princess and you obviously only end up married to one of them. The other one disappears from the game after you make that choice and returns home.


Although I'm kind of confused what you mean by replaying. For every route based VN I've played I just make multiple save files and play them in tandem. I don't restart the game again from the very beginning each time. I typically have a preference for one the routes though and the other routes are usually more for me to see what I missed. Though sometimes I switch which branch is my main. For every Renpy game I recommend having multiple saves
Thank you, that's too much branching for me.

I only play a game once, by replaying I mean that I don't go back and play route B if I chose route A at one point, not sure how else to phrase it.
Basically I don't play games where I can miss an LI or a lewd scene because of branching, when I started playing AVNs I used to play everything and had multiple saves for games where it was necessary, however I just don't find branching games enjoyable anymore (for a number of reasons) where I have to choose between LIs or events that'll make me miss out on LIs or lewd scenes.

A game can have heavy branching BUT if it's constructed in a way that I won't miss an LI or a lewd scene because of a choice I'll still play it, I don't care about different approaches/routes if the outcome is the same and I won't miss out on lewd content.

However by your description it looks like I'll miss LIs or lewd scenes in this game because of the branching, so I'm not that interested.
Thanks.
 

FalconLover420

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I think about Josephine and Valerie is already pretty clear tho, one of the husband is dead nonetheless and the other one didn't care at all about anything other than court matter, so I suppose 99% they already in the MC's hands. Also about Lockhart himself, if you already have an agreement with him to not touch Elin, I also think 99% she's already in MC hands nonetheless, unless you give a wrong impression to her and make a negative points towards either love or power path which possibly gone wrong.

About Arcadia's path, I think I slightly agree with n00bPanda, although there are also possibility for Alaina's path since she's also one of the court member. So chances are pretty high I suppose. Not sure about the relationship towards Alaina and the knight's guard alongside her that we saw in one of the premonition at the forest. If they're lovers, might be challenging to get her, if not 85-99% she's possible to be inside the harem.
I hope Josephine is still alive if you did the nobles path or the Green path.
 

Sherengroth

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I still don't like the father. i get he's a king but his wife and heir to the throne shouldn't have to kneel to him, as a curtesy of respect maybe a bow, and i get the sending the mc because of some zues/kronos like prophecy, but again he's still his son. don't tell him you're sending them away because you think they're going to kill you, tell them you're sending him away to protect them and to sort things out just to make sure it wasn't an error. and when you send him away the least you can do is make his temporary leave comfortable, don't just give him the clothes on his back, a sword, and some coins and say "well, good luck with that." he's a king he can afford to get his son a decent place. a 3 star place at minimum. send him a allowance of a certain amount, and let him at least be able to keep in contact with his family & friends thru a message, magic mirror, or something. not to mention how he looks after seeing his son since he left. no smile, just a look that that says i will fight you.
 

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I still don't like the father.
Sure, but his entire purpose is that he is weak ruler who needs to be replaced by amazing MC. If you root or feel sorry for him or regret his death in any sort of way, he has missed his purpose.

If he was competent, we wouldn't have MC's upbringing and rise.
 
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Sherengroth

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Sure, but his entire purpose is that he is weak ruler who needs to be replaced by amazing MC. If you root or feel sorry for him or regret his death in any sort of way, he has missed his purpose.

If he was competent, we wouldn't have MC's upbringing and rise.
that doesn't excuse him, you can be a moraly or physically ore even both weak ruler and still be a good person. just because someone's health is failing doesn't excuse a person who was a piece of shit when they weren't weak. there has been plenty of good stories, movies and tv shows that had a king or boss who was in bad health but were still good person, and good parents. just like there were kings, and bosses who were bad/feared as a ruler but was beloved by his family, just because he wasn't in the best in health or wasn't the best in ruling, doesn't mean he needs to be a shit father. some times a heir needs to have the best father to be a perfect role model.
 

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some times a heir needs to have the best father to be a perfect role model.
MC is a very flawed person, so naturally he had fucked up mentors. The game is hardly a tragedy with MC being a golden boy who had the best prospects to be a king and only well intentioned guidances. He wasn't even born out of love, but by a political marriage between two races, with both of them having diffrent agencies. Almost everyone wants to use him, including his father.

It's not like you are wrong in your assessments, it just isn't relevant for the intended story. Game wanted a weak disposable ruler who gets assassinated to make place for MC and you don't feel bad or sorry about it.
 
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Sherengroth

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MC is a very flawed person, so naturally he had fucked up mentors. The game is hardly a tragedy with MC being a golden boy who had the best prospects to be a king and only well intentioned guidances. He wasn't even born out of love, but by a political marriage between two races, with both of them having diffrent agencies. Almost everyone wants to use him, including his father.

It's not like you are wrong in your assessments, it just isn't relevant for the intended story. Game wanted a weak disposable ruler who gets assassinated to make place for MC and you don't feel bad or sorry about it.
it could have also .been worse though too. the king or mc could've been jake or logan paul.:KEK:
 

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MC is a very flawed person, so naturally he had fucked up mentors. The game is hardly a tragedy with MC being a golden boy who had the best prospects to be a king and only well intentioned guidances. He wasn't even born out of love, but by a political marriage between two races, with both of them having diffrent agencies. Almost everyone wants to use him, including his father.

It's not like you are wrong in your assessments, it just isn't relevant for the intended story. Game wanted a weak disposable ruler who gets assassinated to make place for MC and you don't feel bad or sorry about it.
I don't think Regis was a weak ruler at all. He was simply dealt a shit hand, because his father was the Red Emperor, and inherited from him an Empire that was collapsing. To salvage the unity and keep the peace, he married an elf woman to show his "progressive" stance (even if he really wasn't).

Now, MC is actually the weaker ruler of the two, as throughout the entire game, his actions were influenced by a third-party since the beginning - which is one of my main grievances with the game; MC essentially being everyone's puppet, and incapable of making some major decisions on his own. It's either Cass or Queen whispering in his ear. But alas, those are my reservations and don't reflect the quality of the writing as is. On that note, it is a little bit ironic that he is so susceptible to outside influence, much like the father he is laughing about.
 
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