Ren'Py Abandoned In Another World with My Smartphone... Are We Serious? [Ch. 5Part2] [Bomba33]

[Bomba33]

I am a calm person, but I am not a saint and my patience has a human limit. Why insist in bothering me, I don't change my mind period. All this bad critics for what? If many of you users that don't follow nether play my game because it haven't sexual content, what's the point in all of this? What do you want to obtain? Please move on, there is many of porn game in this forum ready to satisfy your desire to fap.
Who has said that this forum is only for sex content? Who has said that this forum is a "Jolly roger" lair? I've been here recently but what I have seen only a big group of capable graphic and 3D creator, developer and people who share a common interest for erotic content.
I strongly believe that if my favorite big 10 developer, will stop to implement sexual content in their games, they will always have a lot of supporters despite the absence of sex; because their story BREAKS ROCKS! And are so much fun, enjoyable and full of eros.
I consider myself a mentally ill person but reading certain comments I have to change my mind about myself; I feel like I'm dealing with hopeless porn addicted people. You all must die if you don't have your daily dose of fap? I am 41 MGTOW not a kid but here I see only a bunch of spoiled little girl who scream and cry if they don't have their expensive cosmetics.
Is Doujin illegal perhaps? Is Cosplay illegal perhaps? Is subtitle japanese animation illegal perhaps? Is make love with a cyber waifu is illegal perhaps? Is painting a teenager on canvas illegal perhaps? Is "David di Donatello" illegal perhaps? It's always the same story..does't change nothing.
Toother e-girls, they are illegal because they steal your money for nothing, not me.
I have an utopian goal with my game, achieve the big 10 ranking developer like Braindrop, Killer7, Neverlucky, Galcerose, F.Lord, Runey, Sir Dammed, Bad Memories and Westy (despite the fact that I don't consider him a good person, but this is only my personal opinion).
It need much effort, sacrifice and spirit of self-denial and i will do it because I enjoy in create VN content, I enjoy playing it and I enjoy this fantastic forum. I am perhaps wrong?
That said if you like my game and enjoy it your are welcome; if you don't like it does not matter i'll survive anyway; life goes on. Please abstain yourselves from sterile comment, life is too short for that shit. I and you all don't needed that.
Peace.

 

[Obsidion69]

Yes, you have right. But know that it require a goood knowledge of renpy coding. I am new on renpy and I want to make all that simply and focus on the story mainly.

That's basic day 1 variable entry and retrieval operations for any coding language/framework. If you don't understand how to do that stop now and take the time you learn basic renpy coding before you completely embarrass yourself.

The main girls in the anime are all under 16 (the 612-year-old fairy loli excluded) so you probably will still violate rule 7 for showing most of the girls without underwear and your so-called risky shots.

Rule 7 - "Content (a game, image, video, story, animation, etc.) depicting nudity or sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s) is prohibited. A "prepubescent character" is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character.2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member."

Based on that wording technically the issue isn't so much listed age as it is the sexualization of children before they reach puberty and begin to take on adult sexual characteristics which up until the 16-1700's would have made them viable and since then at least the mistaking them for viable understandable as long as you didn't actually do anything with them. Girls in sexually suggestive clothing/positions would constitute sexualization and thus violate the rule especially if those positions involved no underwear. In the case of this game I fully agree it will get slapped down for a rule 7 violation sooner or later since it uses semi-realistic 3d models even more loli than the original anime depictions for most of the characters. The fact the youngest character there is only 12 certainly doesn't help it's case from a moral or legal standpoint.

It's also worth noting most Harem anime involves high school students who are typically 15-17 in Japan. Most however would not get rumbled by rule 7 even for the 15 yr olds though because they typically give them bodies and/or behavior so outrageously adult that you have a hard time believing they're not. A fine example of this is in the first season of Infinite Stratos one of the female characters has her yukata lifted by her teacher/the MC's older sister to show black lace underwear she wore cause she thought she was gonna get some from the MC on a class trip. This prompted said teacher/sister to comment on how the girl was precocious (acting more adult than she really was for those with a bad vocab) and hadn't expected her "lewd 15 yr old desires" to be expressed to her teacher. The character in question while only 15 was depicted with at least a D cup and the sort of body a professional model would kill for ie fully sexually mature.

So in short 4 simple rules to avoid rule 7 complications:

1. Don't list an age unless they're 18+.
2. If they're not obviously meant to be 18+ only say they are in high school which typically would at least make them of legal consenting age while leaving their exact age up to the imagination.
3. If they're in high school be sure to give them physical and/or mental traits that imply maturity.
4. Never go lower than 15 and if you're gonna go that low it better be more comedic than adult.

 

[Deleted member 148275]

watching the page in hopes there will be a nice yummy loli patch

 

[SerSlender]

I am a calm person, but I am not a saint and my patience has a human limit. Why insist in bothering me, I don't change my mind period. All this bad critics for what? If many of you users that don't follow nether play my game because it haven't sexual content, what's the point in all of this? What do you want to obtain? Please move on, there is many of porn game in this forum ready to satisfy your desire to fap.
Who has said that this forum is only for sex content? Who has said that this forum is a "Jolly roger" lair? I've been here recently but what I have seen only a big group of capable graphic and 3D creator, developer and people who share a common interest for erotic content.
I strongly believe that if my favorite big 10 developer, will stop to implement sexual content in their games, they will always have a lot of supporters despite the absence of sex; because their story BREAKS ROCKS! And are so much fun, enjoyable and full of eros.
I consider myself a mentally ill person but reading certain comments I have to change my mind about myself; I feel like I'm dealing with hopeless porn addicted people. You all must die if you don't have your daily dose of fap? I am 41 MGTOW not a kid but here I see only a bunch of spoiled little girl who scream and cry if they don't have their expensive cosmetics.
Is Doujin illegal perhaps? Is Cosplay illegal perhaps? Is subtitle japanese animation illegal perhaps? Is make love with a cyber waifu is illegal perhaps? Is painting a teenager on canvas illegal perhaps? Is "David di Donatello" illegal perhaps? It's always the same story..does't change nothing.
Toother e-girls, they are illegal because they steal your money for nothing, not me.
I have an utopian goal with my game, achieve the big 10 ranking developer like Braindrop, Killer7, Neverlucky, Galcerose, F.Lord, Runey, Sir Dammed, Bad Memories and Westy (despite the fact that I don't consider him a good person, but this is only my personal opinion).
It need much effort, sacrifice and spirit of self-denial and i will do it because I enjoy in create VN content, I enjoy playing it and I enjoy this fantastic forum. I am perhaps wrong?
That said if you like my game and enjoy it your are welcome; if you don't like it does not matter i'll survive anyway; life goes on. Please abstain yourselves from sterile comment, life is too short for that shit. I and you all don't needed that.
Peace.

Your attitude in responding has officially turned me off. You're posting on a predominantly porn forum, so what did you expect from the members here? Trying to turn this into such a huge deal and claiming others have mental issues is quite astounding and appalling.... This is how you kill your career before it even begins.

 

[Bomba33]

Your attitude in responding has officially turned me off. You're posting on a predominantly porn forum, so what did you expect from the members here? Trying to turn this into such a huge deal and claiming others have mental issues is quite astounding and appalling.... This is how you kill your career before it even begins.

What are tou talking about? Are you serious? Yes is a predominantly EROS forum (with some too much bad porn games for my taste) so where is the problem?. What i have expect? Maybe nothing, maybe pass ignored by all the users. Not be isulted for nothing.
I have first a mental issue but a screaming and crying porn addicted person how would you define it? Please tell me.
Last but not last I rellally don't care in climb a career here; I am not here for money or succes, maybe for the fame but this is another personal thing.
So if you will continue in yours delusions from lack of porn...well good luck in your pity life, I don't care.
As I have written I will continue on my way, whether you agree or not . It will be the responsibility of the administrators to punish me if in some way I'll break the rule 7.
I'll continue on writing my own story not only for me but even for those few who follow me and appreciate my work, period.
Peace.

 

[ben akeba]

dev just stop deluding yourself, parody isn't legal till copyright owner say it is (it doesn't work the other way ^^ be it comercial or not)

presenting a barely started game that will never have sexual content here only is just so dumb i don't even know if people should laugh or pat your back dude >< there're just so many forum for indigame that would welcome it so much better than here that it's pathetic to see you trying to kink shame people bitching about you being a moron

 

[Bomba33]

Yes, yes, yes....blah blah blah. You know what? I will ignoring you, it's only a waste of my time...

 

[ben akeba]

your way of doing thing make you look like a masochistic attention whore, why not trying to get insulted and having your "game" critisised for it's quality on a more appropriate forum ?
you don't accept the forum and it's spirit, you don't accept people opinion, and you don't even think about thanking people giving you advice why the fuck are you presenting your "game" ?

by the way if i'm wasting your time, stop reading and learn coding, or english ... or anything as you seem quite lacking

 

[quorkboy]

I enjoyed this. The sisters are cute. It has potential to be fun.

The translation could definitely use some work but isn't the worst I've seen.

There are other games here with no sexual content. Some will probably get it in future, some won't. I don't believe the site description says anything about "sex games only." I'd still like to see some and maybe in future it happens but if not, as long as the game is fun and the girls are cute I'll stick around.

For parody: copyright law is complicated and it's possible that using the characters - but not exactly the same since the originals look different - may work, provided the story is substantially different and is clearly a parody of the original story. Being non-commercial also helps. Whether this will be enough is unknown.

For the people here who think insulting the dev and being generally unpleasant is "advice": ignore them. Literally. Use the forum ignore function.

 

[Deathlore421]

I enjoyed this. The sisters are cute. It has potential to be fun.

The translation could definitely use some work but isn't the worst I've seen.

There are other games here with no sexual content. Some will probably get it in future, some won't. I don't believe the site description says anything about "sex games only." I'd still like to see some and maybe in future it happens but if not, as long as the game is fun and the girls are cute I'll stick around.

For parody: copyright law is complicated and it's possible that using the characters - but not exactly the same since the originals look different - may work, provided the story is substantially different and is clearly a parody of the original story. Being non-commercial also helps. Whether this will be enough is unknown.

For the people here who think insulting the dev and being generally unpleasant is "advice": ignore them. Literally. Use the forum ignore function.

The issue is that some people, like myself, gave genuine advice and constructive criticism and were either ignored, which is fine, or were called delusional and " screaming and crying porn addicted person " which is much less so.

 

[quorkboy]

The issue is that some people, like myself, gave genuine advice and constructive criticism and were either ignored, which is fine, or were called delusional and " screaming and crying porn addicted person " which is much less so.

That's not how I see it. I've read through all the posts.

Some advice was not taken. This is allowed for anyone receiving advice. There is no obligation, as you clearly understand (but some don't.)
Some was taken.

The accusation of "porn addicted" came after numerous people kept attacking the game and dev for the game having no sexual content and no plans of sexual content (at least not on the version posted here) amid insistence that this site is only for games with sexual content (false claim.) As far as I can tell these comments were directed at those people. And I could see myself reacting the same. Once upon a time I would have. Criticism can be constructive, or it can be destructive. Offer up the former and you're not likely to get such a reaction.

I don't recall anyone calling anyone delusional except one of the more obnoxious "critics" (who is currently on my ignore list.)

 

[Bomba33]

The issue is that some people, like myself, gave genuine advice and constructive criticism and were either ignored, which is fine, or were called delusional and " screaming and crying porn addicted person " which is much less so.

Listen, don't take it badly but you still haven't figured that maybe I don't want to change the age of my character? Maybe I don't want to implement sex content in my game?
If I have to obey to all nonsense of the users in the previous posts, the game will not be anymore a parody of "Isekai wa smartphone to tomo ni" but a squalid parody of "Rocco Siffredi goes to another world and bangs all the chicks with his gun".
If is that all the [addict] users want, maybe it's time for them all to make their own F porn game and stop bothering me; so then we can talk about it again.
Please rethink of your "genuine" advice bacause to me it looks like an imposition. Peace.

 

[pemoj]

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I was about to write a message supporting you, but taking into consideration your reaction and how you are insulting a lot of people without reason, I must say you this:

Shut up and instead insulting people, spend that time developing your game as you see fit.

Funny to see how you said to me "please calm down" when clearly the opposite should be.

Seriously, I don´t understand your behavior. You develop an "exclusive" F95 game, a forum with 95% sexual content, with no sexual content but at least you changed that "censored: partial" label. That detail clearly shows you don´t know exactly what you want to do with your own game. And now you are insulting people calling them "porn addicts" without reason because, what else people want to see inside a forum full of sexual games? You don´t want a game with sexual content but later you say that, perhaps, in the future, the game will have sexual content? Da fuk? Wut? Me no understand. If I have to use your very own rethoric, if you finally add sexual content, you are a porn addict.

Edited to add: This will be my last message on this topic.

 

[Bomba33]

I was about to write a message supporting you, but taking into consideration your reaction and how you are insulting a lot of people without reason, I must say you this:

Shut up and instead insulting people, spend that time developing your game as you see fit.

Funny to see how you said to me "please calm down" when clearly the opposite should be.

Seriously, I don´t understand your behavior. You develop an "exclusive" F95 game, a forum with 95% sexual content, with no sexual content but at least you changed that "censored: partial" label. That detail clearly shows you don´t know exactly what you want to do with your own game. And now you are insulting people calling them "porn addicts" without reason because, what else people want to see inside a forum full of sexual games? You don´t want a game with sexual content but later you say that, perhaps, in the future, the game will have sexual content? Da fuk? Wut? Me no understand. If I have to use your very own rethoric, if you finally add sexual content, you are a porn addict.

Edited to add: This will be my last message on this topic.

Even I can lose my temper every now and then because I am human not a saint. I have explained all too well in my post and even apologized for my lack of information. From my personal point of view a Partial censor consist in a risqué shot like a photo of a fluttering skirt showing a female underwear. I hope I was clear in my description. As an user have said, here in this forum a partial censor have another meaning and consequently I corrected myself.
Like I have said I do not intend relase a my game with sexual content here because of the rule 7; nether I want to change the age of the character. What I have to do? Not care about the rules and consequently be banned? Is that what you want? I don't want this, sorry.
If many of the user insist in change the age and implement sex against my will...or worse, continually insulting me; how can I react? Be calm? Maybe I should have done it and mind my own buisness...
If you feel you have been insulted I answer you with a sentence from my country: "Per caso hai la coda di paglia?".
Is not an offensive sentence but if you have an Italian friend ask to him its meaning.
My game id Exlusively for this forum because I don't have a patreon or similar account and I don't want to make it one. Most of the gaming develop platform are not free or full of advertising. Instead here is free, free of advertising, I am a registered user, and there is a large group of users that my game can reach. It is sooooo very simple if someone use a brain at least once in a lifetime instead of his penis!
At the cost of having to repeat myself: who has said that F95ZONE is only a porn forum? You don't want to support me anymore? Okay, no problem I will continue my life and my game straight forward.
Have a nice day ad a nice life.

 

[ben akeba]

you don't seem to understand that no one tryed to order you around, people gave you advice and information on how to go around the problem you encounter because you said that your game will have sexual content in the futur and peope are interested in this game, some people gave you the easy way, start by "all character are over 18", those aren't interesting to you because it would breack the story, as most of the early situation is about mc wanting to wait all the girls to be of marriable age before doing anything with them, and i personnaly like the idea to keep some comon ground with the original story in case of a fangame (parody don't need to respect anything and should not) but someone gave you a complete and elaborate way of going around that problem without using the easy way but you were seemingly already past your limit ... should be around page 2 or 3 don't remember and started to speack about hear-say law about copyright which sounded like joke to most people that kept on trying to calm you and reassure you that you woudln't be hanged for a game, you were already past your limit and decided to think people was ordering you to make a porn game that didn't respect the setting you wanted for your game and those people had to get a piece of your mind and some of your pent up anger so you decided to insult all of them and stop trying to understand anything ...

 

[ben akeba]

personnaly i'm not interested in seeing the girls of this story being used as fuckdoll by the mc or anything else

i was actualy wondering if someone was making a fanversion with a more assertiv mc and less than a half screen of censoring or if it was a in the futur when they are all 18+ ... (second one was a bit ... meh) still i though it was surely someting like that not someone shiting his pants because of law and rules that aren't that restrictive unless your a complete degenerate ... hug kisses head pat and hand holding are a bit over the top but with a lewd patch uploaded with an other name through a vpn you should be safe even without censoring ><

 

[UsagiSabita]

I was gonna be like "wtf where are the catgirls!?" and then i realized that was Death March.

 

[SerSlender]

What are tou talking about? Are you serious? Yes is a predominantly EROS forum (with some too much bad porn games for my taste) so where is the problem?. What i have expect? Maybe nothing, maybe pass ignored by all the users. Not be isulted for nothing.
I have first a mental issue but a screaming and crying porn addicted person how would you define it? Please tell me.
Last but not last I rellally don't care in climb a career here; I am not here for money or succes, maybe for the fame but this is another personal thing.
So if you will continue in yours delusions from lack of porn...well good luck in your pity life, I don't care.
As I have written I will continue on my way, whether you agree or not . It will be the responsibility of the administrators to punish me if in some way I'll break the rule 7.
I'll continue on writing my own story not only for me but even for those few who follow me and appreciate my work, period.
Peace.

Yes, I am serious. When you conduct yourself in such a fashion it causes others to think less of you. You decided to start calling people porn addicts and delusional for giving you advice and you just expected people to accept that from you with no recourse? You're not being insulted for nothing, but instead for showing a lack of common sense in how to conduct yourself in your responses. Also, your "Do you have a straw tail?" question is irrelevant here since no one here but yourself has a guilty conscience apparently. People have been straightforward with you and gave you advice but you turn around and just say to them "I don't want to do that" when you already stated you planned to. Do you understand now?

 

[shakey2]

Piece of advice for the creator; If you feel like you are repeating yourself in your responses sometimes it's better to just not respond to those people or at least to those specific points you have already covered. Not only is it a waste of time since you already gave an answer, but it's also only going to incite them more and give them more chances to find fault with you or what you are saying. Also it's not healthy for you if you spend too much time on it. It's fine to try and cater to the players to some extent. But I think in the end the best games are the ones the creator wants to make, not the game they were forced to make.

That aside, good luck with the game. Though I probably won't play it unless it's making fun of the characters (I hated the characters in that show). I only popped in this thread purely out of curiosity and boredom.

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

A word of advice on copyright: The work has to be transformative enough that similarities are for referential purposes to the original work. Making a game based on an existing property and changing nothing is not transformative. You're taking an existing concept, story, etc and putting in on another platform. That's it. I love Honkai Impact 3rd, but I can't just lift the models from the game, slap together a shoddy anime from clips and shit, and call it a "parody." It doesn't matter if I make a profit or not. I'm taking credit for doing to an existing property what it was not intended for, without the author's permission. If that concept escapes you, Dev, then you deserve to get sued out the ass.

On loli content: Hilariously, the UN tried to insist Japan criminalizes sexual violence against women in their media.

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One could presume the same applies to loli content, given dlsite has its fair share, and then some. In terms of encouraging op to produce such content and "adjust the ages", I can't recommend it. Especially if he ends up going to court (which is likely, given his attitude), that's just additional fodder for the lawyers. The dev could work it into a patch and then share that patch, but that doesn't get him out of the pile of shit he'd be in already for staying the course on this game.

On "Porn Addicts": Currently, we're all stressed beyond merit. Those of us who have an excuse to get outside (job, front-line workers, etc) I would hazard to call fortunate on the basis that they live with the fear of what could happen, amplified by the power of 1,000,000 angry Ivan's. I've read the posts, actually fucking read them (unlike some sycophant in this thread. Don't worry, this is the only acknowledgement you'll ever achieve from me), and while I disagree with the vitriol slung the dev's way, I can't even shame those people. I get it. You're stressed, and feeling attacked.

Problem is, you're supposed to set a standard not just for your content, but yourself, as well. Your messaging is bad in terms of whether or not adult content is on the table, if it will be you providing it, and if it will even be available to interested parties. Obviously, my investment is nil in this shit. It's a bad joke of a rip-off for a generic isekai that only low-functioning weebs enjoyed. I've seen Re:Zero, guys. Shit is just Higurashi in Another World. Fuck outta here with this low-effort "I got sent to another world except truck-kun didn't crush my cellphone hurr hurr hurr!" Standards, people.

Where was I..? Right. The other thing is, for all intents and purposes, with respect to what OVER 9000!?!?!?! pages of content would verify in this section alone, this is very much a porn site. A porn site doesn't need to exclusively host porn to retain that identity. It's what is at the core of their identity that matters and, as many have already pointed out, this is a porn piracy site. You can't come here and unanimously declare it is not when the community has deemed it as much. You are not judge, jury, and executioner.

As for your shitty attitude (because that is exactly what it is), you are a goddamn developer trying to pitch your "game" to people you clearly want the attention of. Rather than this passive-aggressive "either you play it or you don't" bullshit, how about having some humility and acknowledging that these people want one form of content, and if you can't even cater to that with a patch, then maybe you're failing to appeal to your intended audience and should re-evaluate how you approach this project? Y'know, rather than these outbursts that do nothing except taint the image of you and your projects, however many you may attempt in the future?

You can claim that we're all Human and have our limits, but that's an excuse. My time on here has not been long, but I have learned over the years to step away if something bothers me, lest I go picking fights. Not always, and especially against overwhelming levels of stupid that should not be possible with current year amounts of access to the internet, but here we are. Someone with a temper such as mine, I've learned when I'm past my "breaking point" and need to step away before walls are smashed and necks are snapped. If you can consciously acknowledge that in yourself, then perhaps rather than go out on a limb attacking the users of a forum, you ought to step away, take a breather, (watch an actually good series, may I recommend Higurashi?) and, if shit still makes your blood boil when you come back, just ignore it? I do.

On this entire affair: While I personally have no interest in calling the feds (especially on some dude who clearly deserves little more than a slap on the wrist for being so ignorant of copyright laws), I would recommend the dev take a huge step back, re-evaluate everything about this project and their attitude in general, play some bad porn games (Vanja shout-outs allowed, guys?), watch some better isekai (Seriously, Re:Zero is just Isekai Higurashi and that's what makes it so fun), and I dunno, wait out this 2020 victory lap? Maybe, when you do have a concept that isn't lifted off another property, come back and wow us. Shove it in our faces, and get your well-deserved praises when you have a good project and an awesome attitude, to boot!

Just... don't continue down this path. It doesn't do you well, ever.