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Yup, I had to do this several times - some other bugs, not sure if mentioned yet, while in husband pov only setting, occassionally itll flip to wife pov screen with no continue button. This happens after telework on laptop, and a few other places I can't recall.
OK, I'll take a look at the pov issue. I hadn't come across this in my playthroughs, but I will be focusing on getting the two modes better aligned. During my rush to finish up this release, I think I missed a couple of places where the two weren't perfectly aligned.
 
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The writer moved on. I will be picking it back up and continuing it myself, possibly as soon as 3-4 months from now.
It's both sad to hear the writer moved on considering how well written IHOH was, and nice to hear it will continue anyway. ITOH is a bit less for me (I don't mind NTR but typically the guy's POV on it does nothing for me, I enjoy it more from the woman's POV) but I did still like what I saw in this first release.

Good luck with both projects !
 
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i see alot of content in images. But the grind is to much. Too much clicking for a bit of progress. I dont have a clue what to do. hoping for a save file or a walkthrough here.
 

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I like the idea of this, pretty barebones atm though and quite often has dead ends (looking around at the bar, for example) where I feel like something is supposed to be happening rather than just a blank screen. There's a lot of video files but triggering stuff atm seems to be a pain and a lot of clicking through dead days.

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Popup in sidebar that "you have a text" but there's nothing there, took until the 3rd time I saw it to actually have a message from the friend. If you try to message the wife just get a blank/incorrect image. Most of the phone buttons lead to blank screens you just need to back out from.

It repeatedly suggests talking to the wife about going out with the boss, but that's not a topic for discussion, even if you try the generic ones like "tell her about my day".

You seem to have control over whether the wife cheats during the massage, which isn't how the game is supposed to function.

Pressing continue after the BJ from the bartender (who is hot, I found the source - Owl Crystal) takes you outside.

Given how often you see the "Meanwhile..." screen the delay on it gets annoying.

Things don't seem to track properly, the gf thinks that tthe friend fucked already her on the couch when they go to hook up, but that didn't happen, only starts once the husband went to sleep. She's texting people saying she's allowed to fuck other people, but they've never had that convo.

The wife's arousal just seems to go up not down ever.
 

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i see alot of content in images. But the grind is to much. Too much clicking for a bit of progress. I dont have a clue what to do. hoping for a save file or a walkthrough here.
I think you shouldn’t be surprised by the grind in such games, this is the only thing that helps the author stretch out the gameplay and make you waste your time.

Even my new project has a grind. But I work according to the principle that if a person spends time, then the reward must be worthy.
 
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I like the idea of this, pretty barebones atm though and quite often has dead ends (looking around at the bar, for example) where I feel like something is supposed to be happening rather than just a blank screen. There's a lot of video files but triggering stuff atm seems to be a pain and a lot of clicking through dead days.

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A typical error for all people, even I have it in test versions.
 

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My advice, go into the engine, find all the types of code that starts with <<if>> and see that everywhere at the end of the code it was like this <</if>>
 

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Think i have seen all the content now so here are my thoughts as the poster seems very engaged-

The bones of the game seem very promising.

The pictures are actually attractive people.

The writing is good.

The scenario is very good.

very interested in a multi-path game.

It is very grindy with lots of empty wasted days. (that might be because it is the first release)

The writing sections are a little long for my taste, but its a personal choice (I find implication can be more effective than spelling everything out)

Brian stays too long and the scenes just repeat for what feels like a game-time week.

The sex scenes can take too long, either each action only moves the cum bar 1 or 2% or each action she cums with the cum bar filling up in the thousands making it so you have to watch the cum pictures each action. (i am guessing this has to do with the satisfaction value)

There seems to be very little hesitation in jumping into the new life style once Brian shows up.

Would love to be able to play the wife while the husband is at work. (i understand its early in development)

Brian fucks your wife then you never talk to him again, seems odd while he is in your house.


I don't want this to come across as me slating the game. I only write this because I enjoyed it and can see the potential and want to engage with it.
 

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Sorry, I misspoke, the MC himself is white, his best friend is black.

Yes, those preferences probably mean what you think. First, they are preferences. Everyone has them. If a girl is more attractive to blondes than redheads, why would that be an issue? Obviously, when a preference is a physical trait, it is only a preference relating to physical attraction. Physical attraction is not the only thing that people are attracted to. Second, one of the two doesn't have anything to do with race, so I'm not sure why you brought it up in a convo about race.

Also, the way this code is written, preferences are built up based on your actions. So if you are seeing a value greater than 0 for a racial preference, then you have played the game in a way to build that statistic.
Dude it's an issue because it's a one way diode. Did I miss the variables for either husband or wife "attraction to redheads" or "attraction to tall men?"? Look, I'm not gonna get myself or you steamed up trying to argue this- it's your creation, you're confident the current stats system is how you want it fine. Don't try and tell me this is 'based on actions' though. I bristle at that kind facile statement because it ignores how any game was programmed and assumes all player actions have 1-to-1 intent with the outcome. For example, a player might like interracial scenes but not open relationships. Yet, unbeknownst to the player, everytime he watches those videos on the laptop it increments the latter stat.

2. Are you unaware that maybe a man would want to show off how sexy his wife is, but not necessarily want her to fuck someone else? Do you think all models, strippers, etc., are either single or prostitutes? Obviously not. The "fashion show" stripping has two possible outcomes: one w/ the wife and the husband, the other w/ the wife and Brian. But even if he is interested in this possibility it doesn't nenecessarily follow that he is 100% ready for it to happen, for him to be involved, etc.
Not at all, you're right that there's a wide variety. I don't take issue with what you're saying here. I take issue with the fact that in game it follows that he's 100% NOT ready for it to happen and be involved. You're deciding for the player.
Yes, this is literally the very first release of a work in progress. There is a lot more storytelling that hasn't happened yet. I kinda feel like you're saying "the ending of this story doesn't make any sense at all based on the first chapter." I am sorry if I am misunderstanding the intent of what you're saying, but that's how it's coming across. Furthermore, I'm seeing a lot of discussions of the tropes present in other games, even while you talk about how my game doesn't really have any of those tropes. I assume that you're not familiar with my other game. The only reason that I started making games was to avoid some of the shitty tropes that are all over games made by lazier people. I won't say that I have been perfectly successful in all cases, but I'd prefer to just discuss what's in my game(s) as opposed to things in other games. (Unless we're talking about those other games in other parts of the forum ---- which we are both apt to do as well lol.)
I get that it's only the first release, I was thinking more how it deviated from the InstructionsStart passage. Of the non-vanilla paths, the game tells us:
Open Relationship (Ethical Non-Monogamy): Of course, there's more than one way to keep your wife happy. Though you are in a monogamous relationship at the start of the story, maybe you or she would like to explore a bit more of what the world has to offer. . . with the full knowledge and consent of the other. This could be open to both of you, or maybe you just want her to be with other men. . .
Swinging or Sharing (Hotwifing): Maybe you want to explore other partners together . . . wife-swapping, group sex, orgies, or maybe Jenny finds one man just isn't enough? But whatever happens, it happens with your knowledge, consent, and physical presence!

Unfaithful: Will you cheat on Jenny? Will she cheat on you? If either of you is unhappy, this might be the result. What will happen if the cheater gets caught? (Warning: This path may contain unavoidable netorare content.)

The majority of the scenes take place both out of sight of the husband and often with him unaware. Yes, she tells him about the first fuckr thing afterwards, but none of the others? I admit I didn't exhaust every other liason. Based on the intro description, most of the events seem to fall on the unfaithful path (whether or not they're on that path in game). He sure isn't present for most of them, so that excludes swinging/sharing, and full knowledge is pretty iffy especially once you see wife's perspective.

Said in a more positive way, I think your descriptions above in the intro are FANTASTIC and I would love to play a game that separated paths down those lines, but I don't see the current gameplay lining up with that. Look, I'll be quiet now, I promise I'm not here to sow discord in your thread, I do wish the best for your game, which is exactly why I want you to widen the net from only hardcore ntr/bbc fetish fans. If you think I'm the asshole, do a poll here or privately amongst your patrons about what content they like best. I'd wager it's completely homogenous.

sidenote-you may already know this, both lexi dona and mysweetapple have some great threesome and foursome scenes, I imagine some will be used in future. Jess West is pretty scant for group sex.
 
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I won't respond specifically to the beginning of the message. I think both of us tend to argue first and agree second (based on previous interactions). I honestly think that we are probably closer together than we realize on a lot of things and are just quibbling some specific details. That said, I do want you (and other players) to know that I am taking criticism constructively. I won't categorically change everything, but I am considering all of the comments and whether or not I believe they can improve something. I learned with my first game that even if I might be hesitant at first, once I thought about a suggestion critically and adapted it to fit better into my core vision, sometimes having that other perspective helps and the game is better.

Hopefully, as I release more updates, you will see what I mean. Then you can decide if you still have the same objections.

Said in a more positive way, I think your descriptions above in the intro are FANTASTIC and I would love to play a game that separated paths down those lines, but I don't see the current gameplay lining up with that. Look, I'll be quiet now, I promise I'm not here to sow discord in your thread, I do wish the best for your game, which is exactly why I want you to widen the net from only hardcore ntr/bbc fetish fans. If you think I'm the asshole, do a poll here or privately amongst your patrons about what content they like best. I'd wager it's completely homogenous.
I don't think you're an asshole----at least no bigger an asshole than I am :).

That said, I think you would be surprised about my audience. Given the nature of my first game, a lot of my Patrons are women who lean more towards erotica than porn games. They have had access to most of this content for over 2 weeks already (alpha version released mid-December) and I have gotten nothing but positive feedback.
 
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If you start changing anything in the game, you'll get a headache. Why do I think this? I opened your code and realized how terrible it is in the case of foreshores. :ROFLMAO: :LOL: It's well written, but the problem is that all the action takes place on the game page itself.

In case of change, you will have to touch each page in the engine.
 

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If you start changing anything in the game, you'll get a headache. Why do I think this? I opened your code and realized how terrible it is in the case of foreshores. :ROFLMAO: :LOL: It's well written, but the problem is that all the action takes place on the game page itself.

In case of change, you will have to touch each page in the engine.
In order not to be an ordinary prick, I’ll explain what I mean.


Here is your code in the engine itself and in open form already in the browser.
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As we can see in the screenshots, all the code and its actions are on the page. If there is an error, you will have to search this page. And if this code still works somewhere, then it’s completely screwed.

Let's take my code in the same example.

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As we can see, everything is the same, but where is the code itself? It’s not on the page, that’s right, I’m using widgets. This helps me clean up the page from unnecessary code and quickly fix errors. Because it’s easier to fix or change the widget once than to change this code on every page.
 

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Surprise & Delight Not sure if possible or planned but would be nice for me if I could play it as the wife.
Not planned for this one, but glad to see you over here! I am working on the code for In Her Own Hands as well. It's gonna take a little longer, but I should have a tech update in about 2-3 months & then will be back to wokring on the content.
 
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