I agree. It's sort of a mess. Neat concept but AI conversations are already sorta questionable even if nothing else is going on (e.g. having a chat with ChatGPT), throw smut and slang/natural language on top of it and it's... very ambitious.The concept is neat but the feature needs more work than is worth imo.
The game was in a good spot prior to 0.1.17.2 and it feels sluggish and unresponsive with the AI stuff. It's also, not really something that works all that well with this game. Countless times the AI chat would break on the UI and overrun it with no scroll and no continuation into another block. The in game chat history is also exceedingly tiny...like made for ants kind of tiny.
It was neat seeing a more engaged cast of characters though i'll give it that, but i don't think this tool is being utilized for the right type of project. Renpy games are generally light on the hardware side of things, asking players to run things that stress even some decent GPU's capabilities is questionable at best.
This is basically how i feel here too. I can see what they wanted to do. If they had decent AI integrated then they'd have to do less work to setup a functional world state. It would just be something that allowed people to live out their own wish fufillment with minimal assistance from the Dev or mods. Unfortunately that didn't quite land properly.edit: Also, to be clear, I don't say this with any hate in my heart. I feel bad for GC because I feel like this is a pet project that just didn't work, which can be pretty devastating to one's morale. I would not be surprised if we're nearing the end of development/approaching abandonment.
From time to time I come in here to read what you guys are saying. But this time I had to login just to left a public laugh.edit: Also, to be clear, I don't say this with any hate in my heart. I feel bad for GC because I feel like this is a pet project that just didn't work, which can be pretty devastating to one's morale. I would not be surprised if we're nearing the end of development/approaching abandonment.
From time to time I come in here to read what you guys are saying. But this time I had to login just to left a public laugh.
I know you are very concerned about the future of the game, also very concerned about my mood and is just trying to cheer me up with this comment. I can clearly see it... But everything is fine. My morale is better than ever!
You must be new to the whole idea behind Influencing so I will tell you... I'm making a game to my own fun, and sharing the result with public for free. It's not for money, it's not for public opinion, it's not to immortalize my name in the history of porn games or anything like that. I'm just sharing a game I decided to build with stuff I always wanted to have in a game.
Complaints are usually louder than compliments and maybe that's why you're under the impression that this version might have been a failure, but it hasn't even been released yet. It's under Patreon test phase to go for public later (only officially, because in practice it has already become public). The AI is on the first steps and it will work. Just be patient. Also the server is comming and the use of AI will become a lot easier. And besides, AI is not necessary to play the game. Influencing came all this way without AI, and now AI is just a plus for anyone who wants to use this tool. The Vanilla game still working and being produced as always. Nothing changed.
And please don't take anything I'm saying in a rude tone. If you've heard me speaking anywhere, you'll know I'm not. I'm really just trying to explain how things work for me and Influencing development.
Good good?
And I'll just drop this here to reduce the damage made by a test version released for public. Enjoy it because I fixed most of the feedback problems
I'm glad you're letting the criticism roll over you. And I'm glad you're doing your own project on your own time. When it comes down to it, the guiding hand behind influencing is solely yours, although I bet most of us want it to be a great game!And I'll just drop this here to reduce the damage made by a test version released for public. Enjoy it because I fixed most of the feedback problems
Now I'm going back to my cave to work
Dude you need to fix your fucking character customization. Chars are either anorexic or mobidly obese. THis is the most consistent issue with your game straight up, if this was fixed i'd really like this game.From time to time I come in here to read what you guys are saying. But this time I had to login just to left a public laugh.
I know you are very concerned about the future of the game, also very concerned about my mood and is just trying to cheer me up with this comment. I can clearly see it... But everything is fine. My morale is better than ever!
You must be new to the whole idea behind Influencing so I will tell you... I'm making a game to my own fun, and sharing the result with public for free. It's not for money, it's not for public opinion, it's not to immortalize my name in the history of porn games or anything like that. I'm just sharing a game I decided to build with stuff I always wanted to have in a game.
Complaints are usually louder than compliments and maybe that's why you're under the impression that this version might have been a failure, but it hasn't even been released yet. It's under Patreon test phase to go for public later (only officially, because in practice it has already become public). The AI is on the first steps and it will work. Just be patient. Also the server is comming and the use of AI will become a lot easier. And besides, AI is not necessary to play the game. Influencing came all this way without AI, and now AI is just a plus for anyone who wants to use this tool. The Vanilla game still working and being produced as always. Nothing changed.
And please don't take anything I'm saying in a rude tone. If you've heard me speaking anywhere, you'll know I'm not. I'm really just trying to explain how things work for me and Influencing development.
Good good?
And I'll just drop this here to reduce the damage made by a test version released for public. Enjoy it because I fixed most of the feedback problems
Now I'm going back to my cave to work
I started playing at 16.3 - I liked the game, I don't speak English and I still don't understand exactly how to play, but it's damn interesting, you can throw ideas and other things for hours, but you don't want to, "the author knows better."Now I'm going back to my cave to work
While there IS a chance of some NPC introducing itself - or offering money for sex - to you at random*, in general interaction requires you to click on a NPC of your choice, then on the "introduce yourself" and from there to pick the chat actions of your preference and so on.How do the characters interact? Do I have to wait/waste time? Unkown girl-Barbie came up to my Boy and began to conduct a dialogue, I did not understand how it happened, but since then no one has been talking to me.
I've put aside other games, and I'm playing yours.
Thank you very much, great job.
You know you can change the genetic distribiution when starting a new game, right?Dude you need to fix your fucking character customization. Chars are either anorexic or mobidly obese. THis is the most consistent issue with your game straight up, if this was fixed i'd really like this game.
Rollback was normally not in the game due to obvious issues that it could cause, however due to the high amount of requests from players Crow added it in and warned players about the issues that it may cause. You can always disable it in "preferences" if you want to and I'd highly suggest you to do it.I started playing at 16.3 - I liked the game, I don't speak English and I still don't understand exactly how to play, but it's damn interesting, you can throw ideas and other things for hours, but you don't want to, "the author knows better."
The way I found the versions of the game, I conclude that the game is distributed almost for free, I would support it with a "penny", but this is impossible. Patreon doesn't work for me.
I wanted to write about a couple of things - the RollBack function is enabled by default, and it does not turn off, RollBack doesn't bother me.
How do the characters interact? Do I have to wait/waste time? Unkown girl-Barbie came up to my Boy and began to conduct a dialogue, I did not understand how it happened, but since then no one has been talking to me.
I've put aside other games, and I'm playing yours.
Thank you very much, great job.
I wrote that there is a function that I do not use, but it does not turn off. After switching off, it works again. That's all I wanted to write about this function.Rollback was normally not in the game due to obvious issues that it could cause, however due to the high amount of requests from players Crow added it in and warned players about the issues that it may cause. You can always disable it in "preferences" if you want to and I'd highly suggest you to do it.
I just asked Crow about this. The reason why he didn't put v17 onto itch.io yet is because he doesn't feel comfortable selling the patreon version as those are usually early releases which he feels are "still broken". The whole point of early patreon release is to let people have earlier access at the cost of having them go through the early bugs hence why v17.1 and .2 were quite broken. 17.3 is already much better, especially in the performance aspect as I just tested it but still not ready for a public release.Hi, I haven't read the whole thread, but I just wanted to say that I found this game a few days ago and it is one of my favourites. I do not use patreon, but I would have bought it on itch.io to support the Dev. I don't see any possibility to buy it there.
Omg now I feel like being a fangirl. Thank you Crow!From time to time I come in here to read what you guys are saying. But this time I had to login just to left a public laugh.
I know you are very concerned about the future of the game, also very concerned about my mood and is just trying to cheer me up with this comment. I can clearly see it... But everything is fine. My morale is better than ever!
You must be new to the whole idea behind Influencing so I will tell you... I'm making a game to my own fun, and sharing the result with public for free. It's not for money, it's not for public opinion, it's not to immortalize my name in the history of porn games or anything like that. I'm just sharing a game I decided to build with stuff I always wanted to have in a game.
Complaints are usually louder than compliments and maybe that's why you're under the impression that this version might have been a failure, but it hasn't even been released yet. It's under Patreon test phase to go for public later (only officially, because in practice it has already become public). The AI is on the first steps and it will work. Just be patient. Also the server is comming and the use of AI will become a lot easier. And besides, AI is not necessary to play the game. Influencing came all this way without AI, and now AI is just a plus for anyone who wants to use this tool. The Vanilla game still working and being produced as always. Nothing changed.
And please don't take anything I'm saying in a rude tone. If you've heard me speaking anywhere, you'll know I'm not. I'm really just trying to explain how things work for me and Influencing development.
Good good?
And I'll just drop this here to reduce the damage made by a test version released for public. Enjoy it because I fixed most of the feedback problems
Now I'm going back to my cave to work
Just a side note, this latest update has actually pushed Crow to hit over 1000$ on Patreon which has been his goal for years. This game is far from being deadOmg now I feel like being a fangirl. Thank you Crow!
I hope nothing I said came off as offensive. Maybe I'm just jaded because I've seen so many potentially awesome games get killed by going off in a side-direction and dead-ending.
I'm glad you're still feeling good about everything! I really hope the game does continue progressing. It scratches a very specific cucky itch that I have... lol. I love the concept of the AI thing, I just worry that AI in general isn't advanced enough for your needs.
All the best man. I appreciate you!
Great response, what a Legend.From time to time I come in here to read what you guys are saying. But this time I had to login just to left a public laugh.
I know you are very concerned about the future of the game, also very concerned about my mood and is just trying to cheer me up with this comment. I can clearly see it... But everything is fine. My morale is better than ever!
You must be new to the whole idea behind Influencing so I will tell you... I'm making a game to my own fun, and sharing the result with public for free. It's not for money, it's not for public opinion, it's not to immortalize my name in the history of porn games or anything like that. I'm just sharing a game I decided to build with stuff I always wanted to have in a game.
Complaints are usually louder than compliments and maybe that's why you're under the impression that this version might have been a failure, but it hasn't even been released yet. It's under Patreon test phase to go for public later (only officially, because in practice it has already become public). The AI is on the first steps and it will work. Just be patient. Also the server is comming and the use of AI will become a lot easier. And besides, AI is not necessary to play the game. Influencing came all this way without AI, and now AI is just a plus for anyone who wants to use this tool. The Vanilla game still working and being produced as always. Nothing changed.
And please don't take anything I'm saying in a rude tone. If you've heard me speaking anywhere, you'll know I'm not. I'm really just trying to explain how things work for me and Influencing development.
Good good?
And I'll just drop this here to reduce the damage made by a test version released for public. Enjoy it because I fixed most of the feedback problems
Now I'm going back to my cave to work
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and how exactly does this fix the issue? if you go up one size from skinny you get fucking morbidly obese when you create a char, it's awful design.You know you can change the genetic distribiution when starting a new game, right?