Andrea9999

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Wow. Today I found this game for the first time. I really liked it. Thanks to the developer. I haven't reached the end yet, but I can already say that I'm looking forward to continuing.

By the way, I have read several negative comments here, I want to note that I fundamentally disagree with them. The game looks great, the game mechanics are intuitive, the last update was 4 months ago. Creating such games is not an easy task at all, which requires not only knowledge, programming skills and creative inspiration, but also a lot of time. Therefore, I want to once again note the work of the creator, I hope he receives decent support and will please us with an interesting sequel.

The developer is active on Patreon, 17 hours ago he had a new post there.(
I think the main negative is the lack of update. The update of four months ago added no content. The changes were in resolution of images and in translating to other languages (from the original Klingon). I too liked the game but I do not think I have played it since the last real update came out; I cannot begin to recall when that was.
 

Ravnen

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So season two is soon to be released on steam.. But heres my question. Will it be part of the game we already own, or will we have to purchase it again??
 

Dereck112

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So season two is soon to be released on steam.. But heres my question. Will it be part of the game we already own, or will we have to purchase it again??
As far as I know, it would be necesary to buy it again as DLC like it was with the past episodes, but just one buy for the Episode 1 of Season 2 that would apply for the rest of the Episodes of the Season.
 

HeroHate

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I think when I stated it would be six months, and then some, before the next update people asked me what I was basing that on. The last update was October I think? Supporting this on patreon is insanity.
 
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HikBenAkk

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I think when I stated it would be six months, and then some, before the next update people asked me what I was basing that on. The last update was October I think? Supporting this on patreon is insanity.
It is Insanity to support this project ?

And what do you think about people like you who keep following and wasting time to post here on a project only "insane" subscribers can support ? :LOL:

Projects, like this one, need "insane" subscribers like me to exist...
And if one day, when MC's corruption has reached a decent level even for your taste, you finally like the content made : what will you do ? Apologize to the insane subscribers for having continued to subscribe despite all you said ?
What is your purpose by saying that ? Convince subscribers to not continue to subscribe anymore ?

You think it is not worth it to subscribe on this project ? Ok... No one can say you are wrong.

But you cannot say (prove) those who subscribe are wrong either :p

Thank you, I like to laugh :LOL:
 
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BulgariAMARA

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I think when I stated it would be six months, and then some, before the next update people asked me what I was basing that on. The last update was October I think? Supporting this on patreon is insanity.
It's crazy to see such a great scientist, philosopher and thinker on this unfortunate forum dedicated to porn games. What are you doing here, sir? Probably you got lost on the Internet in search of a scientific treatise? What a pity.
 
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It is Insanity to support this project ?

And what do you think about people like you who keep following and wasting time to post here on a project only "insane" subscribers can support ? :LOL:

Projects, like this one, need "insane" subscribers like me to exist...
And if one day, when MC's corruption has reached a decent level even for your taste, you finally like the content made : what will you do ? Apologize to the insane subscribers for having continued to subscribe despite all you said ?
What is your purpose by saying that ? Convince subscribers to not continue to subscribe anymore ?

You think it is not worth it to subscribe on this project ? Ok... No one can say you are wrong.

But you cannot say (prove) those who subscribe are wrong either :p

Thank you, I like to laugh :LOL:
man tell us, did you lose thousands of dollars to the dev :D and now you are regretted but also ashamed to tell us so that's why you are defending him like his lawyer to cover up your lost money or something :D

look, this is not a finished product like we buy on steam. These VN games (or porn games on this regard) in this site are like "kickstarter funding" I am sure you heard it. and like kickstarter, it relies on crowdfunding or supporters.

Just do a research about kickstarter projects or games, how many of them became successful at the end and delivered what they promised in the beginning ? High percentage of games are abondoned, or scammed the people , take money and close the project.

Of course this game can also become very successful in the end, but I see that chance is low. And signs are not good. Just look at the development status in the early beginning of the game, there was update almost in every 3 months. Now last update with new material and content was in September 2023.

So it's quite normal to say "supporting this game on patreon is insane".

Let me tell you the another "milking" tactic for mainstream games, the "Early Access". There are games which stay in Early Access status for more than 5 years lol. You are basically selling an unfinished product with a fancy status name ))

Those games also can be very successful one day, like IoM, but tell me the chances?
 
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HikBenAkk

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man tell us, did you lose thousands of dollars to the dev :D and now you are regretted but also ashamed to tell us so that's why you are defending him like his lawyer to cover up your lost money or something :D
I spend money to support this dev yes but I do not have the feeling of having lost money... :p
You troll me so you deserve to be made fun of :p
Stop with your arrogance, you are ridiculous... :p
I react to unfair posts and/or nonsense/bullshit said... Bear with it... :p
But I would be sad (really ? :sneaky:) to break your daydreaming here : you prefer to believe the reality to be the fantasies in you head rather than gather facts to face it... :p

Now I will reply to you... ^^

look, this is not a finished product like we buy on steam.
Thank you !! At least you do not the same mistake the guy you agree with.... Herohate (honestly, he admitted a while ago he knows nothing about what it takes to make a game)...
He always spoke about the money he gave from time to time on Patreon to this dev as payment like if he purchased something...

These VN games (or porn games on this regard) in this site are like "kickstarter funding" I am sure you heard it. and like kickstarter, it relies on crowdfunding or supporters.

Just do a research about kickstarter projects or games, how many of them became successful at the end and delivered what they promised in the beginning ? High percentage of games are abondoned, or scammed the people , take money and close the project.

Of course this game can also become very successful in the end, but I see that chance is low. And signs are not good. Just look at the development status in the early beginning of the game, there was update almost in every 3 months. Now last update with new material and content was in September 2023.

So it's quite normal to say "supporting this game on patreon is insane".
No need for a research, I know Kickstarter too (I supported some projects there)
You are making a mistake : Kickstarter has not the same business model as Patreon....
  • Kickstarter : creators define an amount of money they think enough to be able to make their project from beginning to end : as a subscriber you give money once for all.
  • Patreon : Creators asks for money to subscribers on a monthly basis.
In Kickstarter, games are abandoned mostly because their creators underestimated the amount of money they really need : I cannot say most of them are the worst devs on earth, it is not an easy task to be able to plan how much money is required for five or more years of developement...
If they need more money later, it would be unlikely they manage to gather additional funds in another campaign : subscribers would not follow...
The business model Patreon provides to their creators is far less risky for the sake of the projects in that aspect : no need to plan money for too long thanks to the monthly system of patronage. Hence, it is easier for rookie developers to start a project...

I do not say you are wrong if you do not trust this dev, it is obvious this dev has room to improve. I just say you cannot say I am wrong to trust him either : that's why saying supporting this dev to be insanity is not acceptable.
Do you understand that or not ?

At work, the scrum master and I (as software tech lead) drive daily meetings every morning with the devs of my team and the product owner (representing my customer).
To each dev, including me, is asked : have you done what you planned yesterday ? and what task do you plan to do today from the user stories kanban board ?
and that is my daily routine for more than 10 years... I said that to show you I know what efficient dev reports are... and I can say this dev does quite good reporting in his weekly posts : he does not just go on Patreon to say Hi...

I rely on facts to make my decisions about my subscriptions : I have informations from his Patreon posts and Discord in which the dev gathers feedback from the susbcribers there... I give money after all...
Can you claim the same reliability before posting here ?
 
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R1k0

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man tell us, did you lose thousands of dollars to the dev :D and now you are regretted but also ashamed to tell us so that's why you are defending him like his lawyer to cover up your lost money or something :D

look, this is not a finished product like we buy on steam. These VN games (or porn games on this regard) in this site are like "kickstarter funding" I am sure you heard it. and like kickstarter, it relies on crowdfunding or supporters.

Just do a research about kickstarter projects or games, how many of them became successful at the end and delivered what they promised in the beginning ? High percentage of games are abondoned, or scammed the people , take money and close the project.

Of course this game can also become very successful in the end, but I see that chance is low. And signs are not good. Just look at the development status in the early beginning of the game, there was update almost in every 3 months. Now last update with new material and content was in September 2023.

So it's quite normal to say "supporting this game on patreon is insane".

Let me tell you the another "milking" tactic for mainstream games, the "Early Access". There are games which stay in Early Access status for more than 5 years lol. You are basically selling an unfinished product with a fancy status name ))

Those games also can be very successful one day, like IoM, but tell me the chances?
Do you want a developer to make his game for years without any financial support and you then get the game for free on this site? Your insolence is out of line :mad:
 

HikBenAkk

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Btw chinesewarrior, the dev just pubslished his usual saturday post to show his progress for chapter 1 season 2.

He made 1197 pictures renders so far
205 animations

And you said he is lazy ?
When I compare with other devs from here who work alone for all that must be done (story, coding and rendering) he is not lazier than them : on average devs from here make between 500 and 600 renders per two months.

You do not know what you are talking about, that is true....
 

Dereck112

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Mar 1, 2021
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Btw chinesewarrior, the dev just pubslished his usual saturday post to show his progress for chapter 1 season 2.

He made 1197 pictures renders so far
205 animations

And you said he is lazy ?
When I compare with other devs from here who work alone for all that must be done (story, coding and rendering) he is not lazier than them : on average devs from here make between 500 and 600 renders per two months.

You do not know what you are talking about, that is true....
To be fair, it shouldn't be compared to developers who are lazy, it should be compared upwards rather and it is true that although a lot of work has been done since the last update, it has also been a long time since the 1st season ended.
 
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