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"you merely jumped in when the sexual tension was already present for some time."
It may be true for the characters in the story. But it certainly is not true for the player, who would enjoy the game a lot more if he/she felt the erotic tension build up.
"There is no harem or multiple choice component to this VN"
I was not aware of that! Most games here tend to include more romanceable characters sooner or later in order to provide a highly appreciated (by a lot of players, not me) threesome scene somewhere in the game. So I enjoy it when we're given an option to avoid any sex scene, so we can pick only the ones we enjoy.
This player would not. It's the domain of "porn logic" to see two people who allegedly have been sharing the same living space almost all their lives suddenly start to develop romantic affection between them where there was none of it before. If you want to hook up siblings in a story and see the erotic tension between them develop in a manner that makes sense, you have to either a.) begin that story at a life stage where it's illegal to portray involvement between them, or b.) have to make the story take place across several years to portray innocent affection develop into something more (Sunshine Love does this through a prologue). Those are your options if you want to see something believable unfold from the true beginning of any incestuous relationship dynamic, regardless if they are brother or sister, mom, dad, whoever.
If you want to get blueballed for an entire year of your life while the game is being developed and brought to a point where you can finally see some action only to see your flavor of character development unfold, knock yourself out, but I would suggest searching for content that was already made with that mindset (Haley's Story is an excellent one I'd highly recommend, Babysitter begins with a relationship that's even more like a blank slate) instead of forcing your expectations on every single story you encounter, because the lack of variety that would cause, would make everything just stale and boring and create a "seen one, seen them all" kind of situation.
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"This player would not."
Sure, there are players who don't need any story at all. The sooner the f*ckfest starts the better! But there is another group who enjoys to get immersed in the story and feel the feelings the main character experiences as the story unfolds. For this group a good story, believable situations, and erotic tension build up are essential.
"If you want to get blueballed for an entire year"
It was never in my plans! I suppose 4 or 5 updates would be enough to raise the erotic tension to the point developers could deliver full sex scenes in a well crafted game.
Telling me this after I told you Haley's Story is one of my favorites is bordering on ad absurdum.
I can only repeat myself, for you to see developing erotic tension between family members of this age, you would have to portray them at an even earlier age in violation of rule 7, otherwise it would make no sense AT ALL for them to have no interest for each other for the first 18 years of their life, it just does not make sense for family members to develop a kink for each other no sooner than turning 18, get it? It would completely ruin immersion seeing the development of erotic tension between family members from nothing to screwing, starting at 18. It's irrealistic. Why do you think all of these incestuous stories have the main character be apart from their family members for years and years and moving back? Because proximity to those family members would have made those feelings develop much earlier, sooner than at the age of 18, so that's the only way they can develop a relationship that makes sense, by introducing distance for the earlier years! The way you have seen an incestuous relationship portrayed in this demo between family members who have never been apart is the most realistic portrayal you can get without being in violation of rules (or in some countries, the law). This has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting to see them screwing as soon as possible...
The main problem here is that you don't see my point, because you don't want to see my point, you just want to see yours implemented. I have no intention to force my opinions on others, I just care about being understood, so I'm ending this argument here.
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Sorry if you felt somehow offended in any way, it was not my intention. I just described two well know groups of players with their preferences. It doesn't mean that every player should belong to one of those, but it served to establish the kind of game I enjoy. By the way I never played 'Haley's Story' so it means nothing to me.
And my suggestions don't block what other players want to see in the game. I asked for options to play it the way I like it, not to remove options for the game to be played in a different way.
It's like DMD between siblings with orders of magnitudes less shallow writing in general, and less sex. Anyway, sorry if I was being forceful with trying to get my point across, it all boils down to my expectations of realistic storytelling completely towering above my need to build erotic suspense in favor of hurting that realism in the form described above. This VN just makes sense to me, more sense than some others that are making that mistake in their storytelling, so my stance to what I've seen so far is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Eventually it will be in the developer's own interest to accommodate as many "features" as possible to target a wider audience, I just wouldn't want to see what's already uniquely done so right completely change into something else, because I like the original concept, that's why I have no suggestions for the content except "good job, keep going". Generally speaking I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with things I don't care about being present as an optional component built atop of the parts that are to my liking, there is such a component already present here, NTR, and I don't mind, because it's optional. So if the developer can do something about building erotic suspense without making the characters completely uninterested in each other initially (thereby changing the whole narrative that's already been established), I'm all for it! I for one off the top of my head have no idea how that would be possible (with a 20 year background in writing), and this is why I am giving voice to being in favor of preserving what's already present.
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General Rules [Updated 2020-07-23]
https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2020-07-23.5589/
As for loli.
Loli [Girls with undeveloped bodies in sexual situations. Read rule 7.]
https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/
Sister is pretty hot looking and from the looks of it the MC can keep the sister all to themselves if they want to as one option gives NTR points while the other one doesn't.
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here is my unofficial android port of Innocent Play v0.2.2.
from now on my android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage, because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.
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from now on my android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage, because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.
have fun and please report problems (you can reach me
You must be registered to see the links
).updated: 10.11.2020
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Ok so I ended up with the option to eavesdrop and out of curiosity took it, it showed the tutor molesting the sister. Now normally this is where you would be able to step in and put a stop to it, sexual harassments being clear grounds for termination after all. But instead of getting that option the MC just says he wants to put a stop to it but he can't? No reason really as to why he can't, just that he can't.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about optional NTR, just found it weird that you as the player can't really do shit about it once you find out about it, that just rubs me the wrong way. Just hoping that in the future more options are given to flesh out the way you want to play.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about optional NTR, just found it weird that you as the player can't really do shit about it once you find out about it, that just rubs me the wrong way. Just hoping that in the future more options are given to flesh out the way you want to play.
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There are just two routes. One leads to ntr the other no ntr. That is choice. If your on the ntr in this vn you can't change mid stream to non ntr. I don't think that is unique.
Basically I don't understand why it rubbed you the wrong way?
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I just think it just wasn't done very well, its not like there was a sign that said: pick this option to avoid NTR. And even if there was it wouldn't feel like an organic development of the story.There are just two routes. One leads to ntr the other no ntr. That is choice. If your on the ntr in this vn you can't change mid stream to non ntr. I don't think that is unique.
Basically I don't understand why it rubbed you the wrong way?
My main gripe is that there wasn't that big of an indicator that one of my choices would lead to ntr, I would have liked it more if an option would have come up when eavesdropping to either intervene or to stay and watch, that way if you decide to stay and watch you got put on the ntr path but if you instead intervened you got put on the romance route.
I also think that if you decide to intervene the tutor probably should get fired and get written out of the story as that seems like a logical result to being caught molesting your student.
One thing that I really dislike about games with optional ntr is that sometimes the romance route is just the ntr route but with some scenes cut to make it look like the mc isn't getting cucked, which just feels lazy. I hope that won't be the case for this game. I mean if that's the way it's going be done they might as wel make it pure ntr.