HiP1

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Other than keeping the truth who our father is and pretty much abandoning the MC with her Andres for 5 years. She didn't make much of an effort to reconnect with us and make up with one another. Since all she did was try to to call us.

Other than these 2 issues I honestly have no problem with Emily. Unless there is something im forgetting nothing else she has done seem that big of a deal to me.

Issue # 1 I can understand not telling us until we are a certain age but the fact she never intended to tell us is what makes her horrible.

Issue #2 that just makes her a lowsy parent to me and losing precious time with a loved one especially over something dumb is unforgiveable. It isn't enough to cut contact with her for me unless I hated her for another reason but not something I could forgive either and id still make the most of what time id have left with Emily.
Emily tried to visit MC, she made the trip all the way to Alvarado and MC refused to see her so she had to go back without seeing him. she was described as having made all the efforts, but MC was an asshole.

she intended to tell MC, but the promised specified that she had to wait for Andres to be ready. she just thought it would be way earlier while MC lived with his step dad. Andres never intended to reveal it, so he made the promise into something without any real expiration date. Emily should have set a hard deadline, at the very least when her son reaches 18, but ideally 15.

she is painted as a woman that is betrayed by all the men she trusted and cared about, her own son included.
 

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I think he's gonna be the guy that lives with them, which the girls call dad, but not really their father... and he's gonna become a bigger character, maybe a reflection on the pussy hound version of the MC as he(Santiago) is trying to get some pussy on the side and maybe ruins his life with Adriana.
that would still go against patreon rules
it makes more sense that he is just the old friend of their dad.
it was also hinted that he might be Gabi's husband. and that might create an issue with patreon rules too if MC is on her path.
 
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you talking about Santiago isn't it ? ok then who is the man in the pub ? and the one at Adrianas house?
in the bar, it's santiago, he explicitly names himself, there is zero doubt.
and Adrianna's husband is most likely Zo, the basketball legend.
 

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I have yet to understand what kind of evil plan it is to raise a child that isn't yours and spend years of money on it
Yeah, apparently he was a good/decent father, even attested by Emily and not even the MC had any complains about him all these years...Emily even send her son to live with his step-dad for years, just because.
Until that over dramatic scene were he punches the MC...just poorly done imo, but Nyx wanted him the bad one so...
I mean, who even cares if you bone your new to be step-sister, which you only meet recently, in your 20s no less ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
she is painted as a woman that is betrayed by all the men she trusted and cared about, her own son included.
Oh please, don't over do the dramatics. She wasn't betrayed by the MC and neither by Andres.
She sure does a piss poor job as parent if she can't deal with a moody 13y old kid, then sends him to his step dad, cause apparently Andres can deal with him and the MC blames him on ruining the relationship with his mother and cheating on her on top of that... :rolleyes:

In the first place Andres being the bio dad or not, isn't even important, he was who raised the MC, what does it matter if he is not the sperm donator ?
 

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In the first place Andres being the bio dad or not, isn't even important, he was who raised the MC, what does it matter if he is not the sperm donator ?
And that's no small thing, just take a quick look at YouTube to realize that there are fewer and fewer men who would raise someone else's child.
 
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dude she can not and even if she could it would be hell of expensive!
i mean sex in airplanes potty potters is not that amazing to compensate how much those flights to go and return cost!
well trip from big apple to city of angels costs around 80 bucks so not rly expensive. getting hotel room with 80 bucks is different thing.
 
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Yeah, apparently he was a good/decent father, even attested by Emily and not even the MC had any complains about him all these years...Emily even send her son to live with his step-dad for years, just because.
Until that over dramatic scene were he punches the MC...just poorly done imo, but Nyx wanted him the bad one so...
I mean, who even cares if you bone your new to be step-sister, which you only meet recently, in your 20s no less ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have yet to understand what kind of evil plan it is to raise a child that isn't yours and spend years of money on it
 
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well you could ask that from Njitap Geremi (footballer) for example.
First of all,


I've checked and it does not apply here. Andres did not like Emily at the beginning, we don't know when if he ever loved her. He hates Santi so he raised his unwanted son to punish him. As far as we know, there is no cheating(probably a lie tbh) and he knew what he was doing unlike Geremi.

We do not question being a step-father or raising someone else's child as yours. Being a foster parent or step-parent or anything alike is not a bad thing per se. We are questioning, mockingly not seeking a logic behind it, how is Andres punishing Santi being a father to his unwanted son.

Btw, I heard Andres was washing Santi's car at the weekends to punish him, is that correct? ;)
 

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in the bar, it's santiago, he explicitly names himself, there is zero doubt.
and Adrianna's husband is most likely Zo, the basketball legend.
Ok why does Alexis call him "Dad" ? plus the shape and stature, Haircut matches, (could be a cognitive disonace) I'm shure, Zo was married to Adriana, but not anymore, I'm also shure that Ethan is Andres secret child, something like an generational rivalry, (very popular in TN's lately)
 
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Ok why does Alexis call him "Dad" ? plus the shape and stature, Haircut matches, (could be a cognitive disonace) I'm shure, Zo was married to Adriana, but not anymore, I'm also shure that Ethan is Andres secret child, something like an generational rivalry, (very popular in TN's lately)
One small tiny weeny problem with that, Andres has no balls to produce an offspring. :LOL: Was it too harsh? I feel like it was too harsh.:unsure:
 

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Gabi and Santi are probably engaged and not legally married, so that would make it not incest the sex between MC and Gabi. Also explains the picture in the room where gabi is wearing a white dress, bc i have seen a lot of women who get engaged wear some sort of white dress but not the traditional wedding dress. So this case is like Mc with nikki/cara where he could have sex with them and not be incest bc at that time andress who is LEGALLY Mc father was only engaged so patreon TOS doesnt consider it incest.
 
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