VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.2] [Nyx]

[HiP1]

Oh please, don't over do the dramatics. She wasn't betrayed by the MC and neither by Andres.
She sure does a piss poor job as parent if she can't deal with a moody 13y old kid, then sends him to his step dad, cause apparently Andres can deal with him and the MC blames him on ruining the relationship with his mother and cheating on her on top of that...

In the first place Andres being the bio dad or not, isn't even important, he was who raised the MC, what does it matter if he is not the sperm donator ?

yeah, totally agreed. i was just saying what Nyx was going for. painting Emily as a victim of every guy, even her son. MC betrayed her by not coming back and choosing to stay with Andres.

Nyx puts all the blame on Andres, just because of his intentions at first. erasing all he did for almost two decades for her.

I'm pretty sure, there will be a flashback scene showing Andres catching a conversation between Zo and Santiago where Santiago says he wants the kids and/or Zo pushes traditional family values ton convince his friend even more. then Andres would decide on his master evil plan to block Santiago from meeting his kid. all that just over a small irrelevant grudge.

 

[Dessolos]

Emily tried to visit MC, she made the trip all the way to Alvarado and MC refused to see her so she had to go back without seeing him. she was described as having made all the efforts, but MC was an asshole.

she intended to tell MC, but the promised specified that she had to wait for Andres to be ready. she just thought it would be way earlier while MC lived with his step dad. Andres never intended to reveal it, so he made the promise into something without any real expiration date. Emily should have set a hard deadline, at the very least when her son reaches 18, but ideally 15.

she is painted as a woman that is betrayed by all the men she trusted and cared about, her own son included.

I forgot she tried to visit but still I think she didn't try hard enough if she never saw him in 5 years. Still sounds like to me she probably gave up too easily. About the promise , not like they were married anymore so there was nothing forcing Emily to keep the secret based on when Andres wanted the MC to know. Frankly even if there was she should of still told him at some point Andres be damned. However I do kind of get why she never told him cause he was probably still a tad too young and never saw each other in 5 years when would of been the perfect chance to tell him somewhere in that time period. But it still comes back to my first point where I feel she didn't try hard enough or gave up too easily to see the MC.

 

[HiP1]

Ok why does Alexis call him "Dad" ? plus the shape and stature, Haircut matches, (could be a cognitive disonace) I'm shure, Zo was married to Adriana, but not anymore, I'm also shure that Ethan is Andres secret child, something like an generational rivalry, (very popular in TN's lately)

false cliffhanger. Alexis is just interrupted in her sentence by a customer. she is saying "my dad's friend". because of patreon TOS, Nyx can't have MC's biological dad as Alexis' dad, bio or not.
Zo most likely has very strong traditional family values, and his relationship with Adrianna is very faithful. neglected the family quite a bit because of his career, but he stopped it at his peak for them. That's where Alexis' high standards come from. her parents are the perfect couple she takes as an example all her life, and can't forgive any misstep from the MC. she enforces it on her sister too.

 

[HiP1]

I forgot she tried to visit but still I think she didn't try hard enough if she never saw him in 5 years. Still sounds like to me she probably gave up too easily. About the promise , not like they were married anymore so there was nothing forcing Emily to keep the secret based on when Andres wanted the MC to know. Frankly even if there was she should of still told him at some point Andres be damned. However I do kind of get why she never told him cause he was probably still a tad too young and never saw each other in 5 years when would of been the perfect chance to tell him somewhere in that time period. But it still comes back to my first point where I feel she didn't try hard enough or gave up too easily to see the MC.

yeah, she didn't try hard enough. but we can see she is a bit weak willed when it comes to MC. she probably saw that he was happy and didn't want to upset him, convincing herself that the next time would be the one. I think she did manage to have MC over the phone for holidays but not much more.

the promise was the condition for the marriage, but was not conditioned on the marriage. And even if they are divorced, she was still grateful for Andres' care and education for all these years, that counts in keeping the promise up. also she feared MC's reaction a ton. and she hoped Andres would break the news to MC, saving herself from the drama.
MC still respected Andres as his dad up until the forced drama scene. pretty sure, he would still respect him if there was no drama.

 

[justin.case]

false cliffhanger. Alexis is just interrupted in her sentence by a customer. she is saying "my dad's friend". because of patreon TOS, Nyx can't have MC's biological dad as Alexis' dad, bio or not.
Zo most likely has very strong traditional family values, and his relationship with Adrianna is very faithful. neglected the family quite a bit because of his career, but he stopped it at his peak for them. That's where Alexis' high standards come from. her parents are the perfect couple she takes as an example all her life, and can't forgive any misstep from the MC. she enforces it on her sister too.

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Nyx puts all the blame on Andres, just because of his intentions at first. erasing all he did for almost two decades for her.

I'm pretty sure, there will be a flashback scene showing Andres catching a conversation between Zo and Santiago where Santiago says he wants the kids and/or Zo pushes traditional family values ton convince his friend even more. then Andres would decide on his master evil plan to block Santiago from meeting his kid. all that just over a small irrelevant grudge

Mamma mia!
It's so absurd that it's already canon for me

 

[anonnyscouse]

I think Andres became the bad guy simply because Nyx changed her mind about Nikki dying. If Nikki died that would probably have ended the relationship with Cara too, the grief over Nikki meaning neither Cara or MC were feeling romantic enough or horny enough to continue their (very new) relationship. Alternatively Nikki dying could have been the catalyst for Andres and her mother breaking up negating the need for Andres to cheat in order to create a reason for the break up. Nikki not dying meant there had to be another reason for Nikki and Cara to not become MC's stepsisters and stay within Patreon's rules.

 

[HiP1]

I think Andres became the bad guy simply because Nyx changed her mind about Nikki dying. If Nikki died that would probably have ended the relationship with Cara too, the grief over Nikki meaning neither Cara or MC were feeling romantic enough or horny enough to continue their (very new) relationship. Alternatively Nikki dying could have been the catalyst for Andres and her mother breaking up negating the need for Andres to cheat in order to create a reason for the break up. Nikki not dying meant there had to be another reason for Nikki and Cara to not become MC's stepsisters and stay within Patreon's rules.

didn't even know that Nikki was originally supposed to die. might have been too dark for the tone she wanted to give to the story. Rachel dying and the blackmail stuff is already quite dark.

 

[Dessolos]

didn't even know that Nikki was originally supposed to die. might have been too dark for the tone she wanted to give to the story. Rachel dying and the blackmail stuff is already quite dark.

I heard there was apparently going to be some alternative Erynn NTR path where you could side with Nathan corrupt her and pimp her out or something. I forget exactly but I read something like that once. So yeah this game was originally going to be darker. Not gonna lie as much as Erynn is my favorite character kind of wish that never got cut as it could of been an interesting path to see once.

 

[anonnyscouse]

didn't even know that Nikki was originally supposed to die. might have been too dark for the tone she wanted to give to the story. Rachel dying and the blackmail stuff is already quite dark.

Nyx has mentioned quite a few changes from her original plan, Nikki was meant to die being hit by the car (the scene is still included but MC gets hit rather than Nikki and obviously doesn't die), Alexis was meant to be a one time fuck not a main love interest, there was meant to be a choice of not believing Erynn about her explanation about what happened over the confession and to side with Ethan to corrupt her (that's the reason for the corruption tag on this forum and also has one scene from that route still in game with no logical reason for it anymore as it just leads to an LI dumping you but provides no new contact (choosing to just walk past Erynn while Ethan is abusing her)).

 

[HiP1]

I heard there was apparently going to be some alternative Erynn NTR path where you could side with Nathan corrupt her and pimp her out or something. I forget exactly but I read something like that once. So yeah this game was originally going to be darker. Not gonna lie as much as Erynn is my favorite character kind of wish that never got cut as it could of been an interesting path to see once.

Nyx has mentioned quite a few changes from her original plan, Nikki was meant to die being hit by the car (the scene is still included but MC gets hit rather than Nikki and obviously doesn't die), Alexis was meant to be a one time fuck not a main love interest, there was meant to be a choice of not believing Erynn about her explanation about what happened over the confession and to side with Ethan to corrupt her (that's the reason for the corruption tag on this forum and also has one scene from that route still in game with no logical reason for it anymore as it just leads to an LI dumping you but provides no new contact (choosing to just walk past Erynn while Ethan is abusing her)).

thanks for the info.
corrupting Erynn could have been interesting to see on its own, but it would be hard to make it work with the rest of the game. but i'm probably biased because I have the hindsight of the following updates.

 

[cxx]

Ok why does Alexis call him "Dad" ?

cuz nyx is evil. nuff said.

anyways nyx wants to tease players with incest like all girls are related to mc 1 way or other.

 

[Raziel_8]

also has one scene from that route still in game with no logical reason for it anymore as it just leads to an LI dumping you but provides no new contact (choosing to just walk past Erynn while Ethan is abusing her)).

What do you mean, no logical reason ?
That's my default choice, because i have no interest in Erynn and her never-ending drama, so no new content on that front is welcome.

I wish other games would give me that choice, like let's say, a certain crap student loan drama...i wish i could just walk away.

 

[anonnyscouse]

What do you mean, no logical reason ?
That's my default choice, because i have no interest in Erynn and her never-ending drama, so no new content on that front is welcome.

I wish other games would give me that choice, like let's say, a certain crap student loan drama...i wish i could just walk away.

Usually choices like that cascade out, you get different things for making different decisions. It could've been help Erynn and you miss out on meeting someone else as you carried on your journey but that doesn't happen, all that happens is that the Erynn path and Alexis path get closed by that decision, it makes sense that there should have been something opening up from that decision too.

Another relic of that abandoned storyline is the fact that Zach has relationship points in the code, and the things you do that give points with him are attempting to manipulate girls or treating them like shit, like spying on them in the locker room. Yet he still betrays you no matter how many points you have with him.

 

[HiP1]

Usually choices like that cascade out, you get different things for making different decisions. It could've been help Erynn and you miss out on meeting someone else as you carried on your journey but that doesn't happen, all that happens is that the Erynn path and Alexis path get closed by that decision, it makes sense that there should have been something opening up from that decision too.

Another relic of that abandoned storyline is the fact that Zach has relationship points in the code, and the things you do that give points with him are attempting to manipulate girls or treating them like shit, like spying on them in the locker room. Yet he still betrays you no matter how many points you have with him.

yes, we only lose a lot from that decision. there is nothing to gain except cutting someone from your life.
it also closes Mel route later on, i think.

 

[Dessolos]

What do you mean, no logical reason ?
That's my default choice, because i have no interest in Erynn and her never-ending drama, so no new content on that front is welcome.

I wish other games would give me that choice, like let's say, a certain crap student loan drama...i wish i could just walk away.

tbh I never will understand a take like this on any game not just cause im a Erynn fan. It always seems weird to me someone would want to get rid of a character entirely from a game even if it's someone I dislike. As to me it's one thing to say no to them and not play their path or whatever that I get. But when you get rid of a character from a game to me it feels like you are missing part of the game, which is also why I hate ignoring her in the Alley and feel like it makes no sense to me. As well I think it's bad game design / story telling to just make a character vanish unless there is a story reason behind it.

I do have another reason why I personally will never get it. To me it almost feels a bit disrespectful to want to get rid of a character existence just cause you dislike them when you could not play their paths, since devs work hard to create them. But that's just me at least when you say it you say you have no interest in them for X reason. So it comes off alot better than most people and well Nyx does give you that option not like you are saying this when the option doesn't exist haha.

 

[HiP1]

tbh I never will understand a take like this on any game not just cause im a Erynn fan. It always seems weird to me someone would want to get rid of a character entirely from a game even if it's someone I dislike. As to me it's one thing to say no to them and not play their path or whatever that I get. But when you get rid of a character from a game to me it feels like you are missing part of the game, which is also why I hate ignoring her in the Alley and feel like it makes no sense to me. As well I think it's bad game design / story telling to just make a character vanish unless there is a story reason behind it.

I do have another reason why I personally will never get it. To me it almost feels a bit disrespectful to want to get rid of a character existence just cause you dislike them when you could not play their paths. But that's just me at least when you just say you have no interest in them for X reason. So it comes off alot better than most people and well Nyx does give you that option not like you saying this when the option doesn't exist haha.

what's also weird in that scene is that she doesn't call out for help to MC. he could really just pass her without noticing it is her. he would then only be guilty of being oblivious to his surrounding. it could be a random couple having an argument in the street like Darryl and Tori, and MC not wanting to get involved. Erynn has no proof that MC knows it is her. MC could also just walk back the way he came so he is never noticed by her.
Erynn is not completely cut from appearing though, she still appears later and is pissed at him or doesn't want to go see him. she might still forgive him. MC can reunite her father and mother, or something like that, and she could be back on track.

 

[Dessolos]

what's also weird in that scene is that she doesn't call out for help to MC. he could really just pass her without noticing it is her. he would then only be guilty of being oblivious to his surrounding. it could be a random couple having an argument in the street like Darryl and Tori, and MC not wanting to get involved. Erynn has no proof that MC knows it is her. MC could also just walk back the way he came so he is never noticed by her.
Erynn is not completely cut from appearing though, she still appears later and is pissed at him or doesn't want to go see him. she might still forgive him. MC can reunite her father and mother, or something like that, and she could be back on track.

o really thanks id have to try it out again sometime then cause I recall I did a speed run of this option once and never don't recall seeing Erynn again. But it was before update 0.11 and 0.12

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

tbh I never will understand a take like this on any game not just cause im a Erynn fan. It always seems weird to me someone would want to get rid of a character entirely from a game even if it's someone I dislike. As to me it's one thing to say no to them and not play their path or whatever that I get. But when you get rid of a character from a game to me it feels like you are missing part of the game, which is also why I hate ignoring her in the Alley and feel like it makes no sense to me. As well I think it's bad game design / story telling to just make a character vanish unless there is a story reason behind it.

I do have another reason why I personally will never get it. To me it almost feels a bit disrespectful to want to get rid of a character existence just cause you dislike them when you could not play their paths, since devs work hard to create them. But that's just me at least when you say it you say you have no interest in them for X reason. So it comes off alot better than most people and well Nyx does give you that option not like you are saying this when the option doesn't exist haha.

I do agree with this on Erynn path, even though I don't like her it's not worth it to lose both Erynn and Alexis paths over this. Though, generally speaking I do understand it. There are some characters in the games, not just AVNs that I wish not to see them and their story does not worth what they bring, so if I can cut them off entirely I would and can enjoy other parts of the game. So not that crazy if you ask me.

 

[HiP1]

o really thanks id have to try it out again sometime then cause I recall I did a speed run of this option once and never don't recall seeing Erynn again. But it was before update 0.11 and 0.12

it's nothing major. you just see her with alexis when they leave to spend the day together, and MC is working on Mel's backyard. and you see her again coming to ask Emily to come see her the next day so she can explain her story.
so whether MC chooses to help her or not, it still spurs Erynn to talk to her friends and family about her situation. MC is still the catalyst anyway.