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It's double avoidable, if you have enough Emily points and tell her you don't want her dating John then she won't date him. If you don't have enough points with Emily (because you've been perving on her) and/or you don't mind her dating John but don't want to see it then you can skip the scene when you're talking to Mel.
If you allow her to go on the date, or don't have enough points, and then decide to Skip later, she still goes on the date with John. By hitting skip, you are just skipping over Emily retelling what happened the date to Mel. She still goes on the date and sleeps with John as far as the game is concerned.

The only way to avoid her going on the date, as already mentioned above, is to get enough Emily points and tell her you aren't comfortable with it when she asks. Then the date doesn't happen at all.
 
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If you allow her to go on the date and then decide to Skip, she still goes on the date with John. By hitting skip, you are just skipping over Emily retelling what happened the date to Mel. She still goes on the date and sleeps with John as far as the game is concerned.

The only way to avoid her going on the date, as already mentioned above, is to get enough Emily points and tell her you aren't comfortable with it when she asks. Then the date doesn't happen at all.
what about if you don't get the motorcycle I know I didn't get the option to choose yes or no if I didn't get it but I didn't keep playing that save to find out
 

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what about if you don't get the motorcycle I know I didn't get the option to choose yes or no if I didn't get it but I didn't keep playing that save to find out
Never perved on Emily enough to find out. If I'm not getting the bike I'm doing it wrong. Then I can't take Erynn for a ride, nor Lexi. Val should hopefully be next, as wasn't there a conversation with her on one of the dates? I thought it was on one of her dates with MC?

Emily does mention that John asked her out while she was looking at the bikes, inside the shop, so possibly not?
 
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Never perved on Emily enough to find out. If I'm not getting the bike I'm doing it wrong. Then I can't take Erynn for a ride, nor Lexi. Val should hopefully be next, as wasn't there a conversation with her on one of the dates? I thought it was on one of her dates with MC?

Emily does mention that John asked her out while she was looking at the bikes, inside the shop, so possibly not?
don't even need to perv on her to not get it haha. during my speed runs prior to the update if I didn't throw her in the pool I wouldn't get it but everything else was positive and non pervy
 

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The only way to avoid her going on the date, as already mentioned above, is to get enough Emily points and tell her you aren't comfortable with it when she asks. Then the date doesn't happen at all.
I don't care what anyone says, that's a dick move in my opinion and you don't even have to watch it if you don't want to. She's a young, beautiful woman in the prime of her life and deserves to have some fun and perhaps even find love. Anyone denying that to their mother is not a nice person in my opinion.

If it turns out that the only way to get a Brooke/Emily relationship is denying John, then I'll go back and change it, but until then, I'm not denying Emily a chance at happiness. :)
 

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don't even need to perv on her to not get it haha. during my speed runs prior to the update if I didn't throw her in the pool I wouldn't get it but everything else was positive and non pervy
Emily has 18 points or so available before the bike check (based on route) and you need 13 for the bike. Of course, Emily has some -4 swings too, so depending on how it goes you could easily end up no bike.
 

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I don't care what anyone says, that's a dick move in my opinion and you don't even have to watch it if you don't want to. She's a young, beautiful woman in the prime of her life and deserves to have some fun and perhaps even find love. Anyone denying that to their mother is not a nice person in my opinion.

If it turns out that the only way to get a Brooke/Emily relationship is denying John, then I'll go back and change it, but until then, I'm not denying Emily a chance at happiness. :)
I've got each LI done 4 times, so my bases are covered:
  • Preferred Emily not goin on the date with John (my head canon official path):
    • Went along with the plan at the bar with John
    • Intervened to save Erynn at the bar
  • Approved Emily going on the date with John:
    • Went along with the plan at the bar with John
    • Intervened to save Erynn at the bar
I don't mind John by any means. But by the time John's opportunity presents itself I've already left the station on the mommy Brooke hope train. Those are my primary head canon saves, the John ones are others are just to see what happens with John.

Since the intervention or not-intervention have pretty much merged after returning the phone at Erynn's request, and no difference as of up to the last update, I'm personally leaning towards intervention being my head canon route.

don't even need to perv on her to not get it haha. during my speed runs prior to the update if I didn't throw her in the pool I wouldn't get it but everything else was positive and non pervy
In order to lose points, you need to take more "pervy" choices (look at her in the pool) and the such. But you are right there are opportunities to just not gain points....
 

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In order to lose points, you need to take more "pervy" choices (look at her in the pool) and the such. But you are right there are opportunities to just not gain points....
Yeah what happened when I was doing the speed runs prior to the update probably was I just didn't gain points cause I never pick the pervy stuff with Emily.
 
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I don't care what anyone says, that's a dick move in my opinion and you don't even have to watch it if you don't want to. She's a young, beautiful woman in the prime of her life and deserves to have some fun and perhaps even find love. Anyone denying that to their mother is not a nice person in my opinion.

If it turns out that the only way to get a Brooke/Emily relationship is denying John, then I'll go back and change it, but until then, I'm not denying Emily a chance at happiness. :)
She can date anyone, just not someone who I only know because I fucked his daughter, on his bike no less.

It's not technically incest, but there is a familial connection there.
 
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If I'm not getting the bike I'm doing it wrong. Then I can't take Erynn for a ride, nor Lexi. Val should hopefully be next, as wasn't there a conversation with her on one of the dates? I thought it was on one of her dates with MC?
Yes.

No bike,

No bike rides with Erynn and Lexi.

Val is also interested in the bike. When the MC mentions it during their first running date at the beach (pink leggings, wet t-shirt date), Val asks about it. We might be able to bring her home from a date and hello Mama Ximena (maybe).

You also lose a riding date with Iris in a future update.

You also lose a chance to bring Brooke home from work in a future update. Brooke liked the bike a lot.

(I am guessing also that Gianna and Tori might be into bikes too.)

And in a future update, Erynn might recreate your sexy moment with Iris on the bike. She was thinking about what birthday present to give to you.
 
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Just finished a Val-Nikki route and I'm wondering: Is Mr. Donovan come off as creepy in other routes? I have a hard time thinking the guy who say "I'm still thinking about the girl I've seen a week (or more?) ago for less than 1 minute, who was with her boyfriend" will end up being a nice guy.

I might be reading too much into it (it was probably just to establish him as a rival for multiple routes?), but the scene came off as creepy.
 

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Is Mr. Donovan come off as creepy in other routes ? I have a hard time thinking the guy who say "I'm still thinking about the girl I've seen a week (or more?) ago for less than 1 minute, who was with her boyfriend" will end up being a nice guy.
Conspiracy take: maybe he's the scout for Ethan. Being a 'hot' teacher that has every girl at school drooling about him, he could pick out the hot ladies and put them in contact with Ethan for a 'modelling' gig. If they think the girl could be problematic they let them hook up with Mr Donovan and record the sex to blackmail them later into submission.

The video Ethan shows MC he says "Look at her expression and listen carefully. You can see the exact moment her hymen ruptures."
I always found this odd, unless they had sex on the ground-floor with the windows uncovered / open i find it hard to believe they could have taken a video with sound by themselves without his knowledge. Felt to me like he's involved somehow...
 

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I've got each LI done 4 times, so my bases are covered:
  • Preferred Emily not goin on the date with John (my head canon official path):
    • Went along with the plan at the bar with John
    • Intervened to save Erynn at the bar
  • Approved Emily going on the date with John:
    • Went along with the plan at the bar with John
    • Intervened to save Erynn at the bar
I don't mind John by any means. But by the time John's opportunity presents itself I've already left the station on the mommy Brooke hope train. Those are my primary head canon saves, the John ones are others are just to see what happens with John.

Since the intervention or not-intervention have pretty much merged after returning the phone at Erynn's request, and no difference as of up to the last update, I'm personally leaning towards intervention being my head canon route.
I prefer John to Brooke(with Emily).
John creates tension between Emily and Melissa, between John and Santiago...
And John is much more connected to the story with Erynn, Iris.
No doubt in my mind this is the option that will give us more(and better) storylines.
Not much sauce with Brooke honestly, what it will come down to? They come from work together and hang around the living room? And we get to be the voyeur again? Not my thing.

Brooke is also uncertain to ever happen, they've worked together for years and Emily never looked at her twice.
By blocking John one may think they are helping Brooke but may end up helping Santiago... newly single, 100% ready for a trip down memory lane with Emily...
Ultimately my prefered path for Brooke would be helping her with her first guy experience, not pushing her towards my mom.

Punching Ethan or not seems to not have made a difference long term(Nyx warned this would be the case)...
Not punching we get an extra talk between father and daughter.
Punching we get well... the satisfaction of punching him, some extra dialogue with Erynn about the phone.
Punching wins!!!
Yes.

No bike,

No bike rides with Erynn and Lexi.

Val is also interested in the bike. When the MC mentions it during their first running date at the beach (pink leggings, wet t-shirt date), Val asks about it. We might be able to bring her home from a date and hello Mama Ximena (maybe).

You also lose a riding date with Iris in a future update.

You also lose a chance to bring Brooke home from work in a future update. Brooke liked the bike a lot.

(I am guessing also that Gianna and Tori might be into bikes too.)

And in a future update, Erynn might recreate your sexy moment with Iris on the bike. She was thinking about what birthday present to give to you.
Hopefully we get to go with the bike to school, see all the girls reactions.

And yeah the bike is being used to facilitate lots of scenes, good thing it's easy to obtain;).

Just finished a Val-Nikki route and I'm wondering: Is Mr. Donovan come off as creepy in other routes? I have a hard time thinking the guy who say "I'm still thinking about the girl I've seen a week (or more?) ago for less than 1 minute, who was with her boyfriend" will end up being a nice guy.

I might be reading too much into it (it was probably just to establish him as a rival for multiple routes?), but the scene came off as creepy.
As someone who used to live near the beach(and hang out there a lot) i don't think his comments are that bad.
People that hang at a certain spots become well known to each other, not unlike the usual clients of a small bar.
Every once in a while comes in a new girl that catches your eye, and you simply hope that she'll show up again the next few days... and start becoming a regular of that spot, so you can do a slow get to know each other instead of bothering someone who is sun tanning/minding her own business.
As for having a BF, i think he's also hoping it's not a serious relationship.
He doesn't know Nikki(and in traditional Intertwined fashion the MC walking right by him rings no bells), so he can hope.

And yeah he's gonna be around for several paths, Nikki, Erynn, Val and the other HS girls...
 

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huh... I thought it'd happen either way. I kinda want to choose "no" just to see if the thing with brooke happens :p
it prolly happens anyways but mc won't take part on it.


after completing 2 paths, lexi and erynn no big difference: on lexi she showed family cars to mc and had sex twice and on erynn path scene erynn and mc in bath, no lexi showing family cars (played with skip so not sure) BUT sexs with lexi happened. something is fucked up, just don't know what. plenty of errors about break ups with lexi, etc.
 

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Yes.

No bike,

No bike rides with Erynn and Lexi.

Val is also interested in the bike. When the MC mentions it during their first running date at the beach (pink leggings, wet t-shirt date), Val asks about it. We might be able to bring her home from a date and hello Mama Ximena (maybe).

You also lose a riding date with Iris in a future update.

You also lose a chance to bring Brooke home from work in a future update. Brooke liked the bike a lot.

(I am guessing also that Gianna and Tori might be into bikes too.)

And in a future update, Erynn might recreate your sexy moment with Iris on the bike. She was thinking about what birthday present to give to you.
Right, don't know how I forgot about Brooke's interest in going for a ride. Wonder if that'll be the trip to Emily's place for the Entanglement watching setup that MC offered. :unsure:

I've never found the Iris path all that interesting yet. If it's going to be done, it had better be to the standard of the other LIs, and to me it's just not there yet.

I prefer John to Brooke(with Emily).
John creates tension between Emily and Melissa, between John and Santiago...
And John is much more connected to the story with Erynn, Iris.
No doubt in my mind this is the option that will give us more(and better) storylines.
Not much sauce with Brooke honestly, what it will come down to? They come from work together and hang around the living room? And we get to be the voyeur again? Not my thing.

Brooke is also uncertain to ever happen, they've worked together for years and Emily never looked at her twice.
By blocking John one may think they are helping Brooke but may end up helping Santiago... newly single, 100% ready for a trip down memory lane with Emily...
Ultimately my prefered path for Brooke would be helping her with her first guy experience, not pushing her towards my mom.
Yeah, I'm still holding out hope against hope. I think after all Emily's been through she deserves one drama free relationship. Since she hasn't dated (my understanding) since Andres she deserves something simpler and to be happy. But that's just my take on her... she's sacrificed a lot for the family, including buying into a lie by Andres.

As to Santi, if you aren't on Gabi's path and don't see the picture get taken down does it still happen in the background? I don't think there's any other hint/note/comment/confirmation (aside from overheard phone conversations), other than being on her scene that their relationship is likely ended/ending. And if Santi's already abandoning/neglecting his presumed current wife, I'm not going to hold out hope for a sudden change. He does lament his little Emi, but he kind of self-inflicted (and family-inflicted) that onto himself.
 

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Right, don't know how I forgot about Brooke's interest in going for a ride. Wonder if that'll be the trip to Emily's place for the Entanglement watching setup that MC offered. :unsure:

I've never found the Iris path all that interesting yet. If it's going to be done, it had better be to the standard of the other LIs, and to me it's just not there yet.
For Iris it helps a lot if you try to put yourself in the headspace of the MC, don't think of her as someone you just met... think of her as your first GF, the first you've been with... the girl who "Mrs Miyagi-ed" you into sex :ROFLMAO:

But yeah she needs to have more content on her own, the fact that a lot of her scenes tend to be Alexis locked hurts her.


Yeah, I'm still holding out hope against hope. I think after all Emily's been through she deserves one drama free relationship. Since she hasn't dated (my understanding) since Andres she deserves something simpler and to be happy. But that's just my take on her... she's sacrificed a lot for the family, including buying into a lie by Andres.

As to Santi, if you aren't on Gabi's path and don't see the picture get taken down does it still happen in the background? I don't think there's any other hint/note/comment/confirmation (aside from overheard phone conversations), other than being on her scene that their relationship is likely ended/ending. And if Santi's already abandoning/neglecting his presumed current wife, I'm not going to hold out hope for a sudden change. He does lament his little Emi, but he kind of self-inflicted (and family-inflicted) that onto himself.
I think they always break up(Gabi and Santi), Gabi yelling at Santi over the phone during camp always happens, Gabi in the club with Ximena, Ximena and Gabi celebrating/not celebrating at the restaurant.
All these things happen even if you never entered the Gabi path.
And of course Santiago always reminisces about "little Emi".

I'm not sure if he still texts Emily if you are not on the Gabi path (Emily dates John and no Gabi path), but i'm betting he still does.
 

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For Iris it helps a lot if you try to put yourself in the headspace of the MC, don't think of her as someone you just met... think of her as your first GF, the first you've been with... the girl who "Mrs Miyagi-ed" you into sex :ROFLMAO:
technically she still is since they didn't break up.
 
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mc's headaches: he fucked iris (lexi's bff) and didn't break up with her, he fucked lakayen (monroe sisters cousin) and no surprise that neither kept it casual. also if fucked mira then that will prolly come and bite ass.
 

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For Iris it helps a lot if you try to put yourself in the headspace of the MC, don't think of her as someone you just met... think of her as your first GF, the first you've been with... the girl who "Mrs Miyagi-ed" you into sex :ROFLMAO:

But yeah she needs to have more content on her own, the fact that a lot of her scenes tend to be Alexis locked hurts her.
Always funny to see these kind of discussions on different games. In Race for Life, a lot of people dislike/hate V(eronica) because her and MC have a pre-existing FWB relationship. It's very different case than with Iris, which was a committed relationship but still a pre-existing dynamic. In V's case, she's hoping for a more serious step in the relationship, and asks the MC for such... timing aside. In Iris' case it never really ended, so the MC has essentially been a cheat for years. :unsure: And wow, there's a lot of hate for V on that game and a lot of the points made are for that very reason, that it was pre-existing relationship.

There is some potential with the Iris as a character, she just feels way too much like a side girl at this point. All the other LIs are way ahead of her in storytelling, all she really has is the one really long flashback about meeting her. And since you can't really start any sort of relationship with her, in a non-harem game, that really requires being on Lexi's path there's been nothing to take my eye off Lexi by that point. Even Elena is a much more developer character in-game, and you can't even start a relationship with her other than to break Layla's heart for nothing yet.
 
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