Wether he knew what his parents did or not will be key reveal for the father son relationship.
Or he can just give me his Porsche
, "i love you dad!!!"
Or he can just give me his Porsche
Oh he absolutely did tell them. I think at that age he was just a bit more ignorant than he may be now. A high profile sports agent can't be too slow as social queues when negotiating contracts.he may not have sent them, but he told them, and they went anyway to get the kid aborted, so there is that. He may or may not know that part, but likely not.
They absolutely did try to pay her off with an envelope, you are right. That was was upset her, and even moreso when Santi came up to her at the beach in the next scenes.Whether it was his idea or his parents, they were definitely involved. I seem to recall they met Emily for lunch or something and tried to buy her off with an envelope of cash.
won't happen, his mother didn't take the money, so the son won't take the Porsche! Like mother, like son. Point!Or he can just give me his Porsche, "i love you dad!!!"
That's the crucial question. We don't know yet, but when the MC asks him about it, we'll find out.Wether he knew what his parents did or not will be key reveal for the father son relationship.
I get the feeling, from the beach flashback, that he didn't understand why Emily was so upset and shut him out. So perhaps that's at play as well.
It certainly seems like seeing Emily with a different dude sparked him into action...
He could've contacted her regardless, but only does after the John date.
and he fucking ran away
Like mother, like son ...won't happen, his mother didn't take the money, so the son won't take the Porsche! Like mother, like son. Point!
Nikki SP on Cara route exists, gonna pop offCara vs Nikki was resolved way too quick for it to be a decent intertwinement
Santi ran away as you know, then his parents showed up in front of Emily's door. Emily did not say anything to them, that means Santi told them. He did not reach out to Emily before his family, this means he was not intended to be a father also. So, only logical conclusion was he told his parents Emily is pregnant and he is not planning to be a father. Whether they decided to money thing together or was being solution of his parents matters so little. Btw, they have photos together after the beach scene, so Emily was at least friendly with him. The photo Mel showed to MC that Santi carrying Emily on his shoulder must after pregnancy announcement, because Mel was in it. Emily met Mel after she learned her pregnancy. So, she must have forgave Santi again.Santi absolutely did run away when Emily told him. I'm not advocating he was a mature/good person by any means. They were teenagers at the time, so can't always expect rational responses. But I don't recall any indication he sent his parents. Unless I really missed something somewhere. If that was the case, why would it seem that he was surprised she was so blunt with rejecting him?
I *thought* Andres was always in love with Emily as well. Didn't he step in as a husband/father on the condition that Emily never told MC about not being his son.
My memory must be really shot if that's the case.
MC is a huge twat if you ask me but he had a reason to believe Erynn was laughing at him, then when he tried to talk again Ethan bullied him. He did not leave the next day, so he saw Ethan and Erynn staying good friends, probably second best friend after Alexis everyday. His anger was not uncalled for. Also, he was around 10 at the time.Like mother, like son ...
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I don't know where you've been but we've known the Zach points were moot for a long time now. Originally there was going to be an "evil" route where you side with Ethan and the Zach points would have mattered but it got scrapped. The points are in the game now as legacy stuff. Nyx could pick them up and use them for something else but given how much Zach is hated I don't see it happening.There is currently no point at all in a bromance with Zach currently and if Dev waits too long for some kind of payoff the route will simply lack value to be playable. Needs to fix that. Zach betraying you no matter what is disappointing. His points have 0 value.
Santi ran away as you know, then his parents showed up in front of Emily's door. Emily did not say anything to them, that means Santi told them. He did not reach out to Emily before his family, this means he was not intended to be a father also. So, only logical conclusion was he told his parents Emily is pregnant and he is not planning to be a father. Whether they decided to money thing together or was being solution of his parents matters so little. Btw, they have photos together after the beach scene, so Emily was at least friendly with him. The photo Mel showed to MC that Santi carrying Emily on his shoulder must after pregnancy announcement, because Mel was in it. Emily met Mel after she learned her pregnancy. So, she must have forgave Santi again.
Andres was not in love with Emily at the beginning. Santi cucked him hard with his, iirc, first GF albeit only flirting phase, not real dating stage. So, he hit on Emily as revenge because she was Santi's childhood on/off GF. Emily accepted Andres as a rebound too. Then after the fight about the pregnancy, he promised to take care of the child. Which btw I really don't fucking understand because how would being a stepdaddy to your enemy's child is a revenge. After MC born, he made Emily promise she never see Santi and they are not going to tell MC about his father, nor Santi about MC. It's not clear when Andres was started to feel fatherly towards MC but there was a mention when he first called him father, something changed in him. Emily kept her promise as long as she needed Andres' help then she started to see Santi, also immediately mentioned about MC too and the promise. Santi responded with he is okay with the promise. Another indication he is not interested in being a father to MC, even a decade later. That made Andres furious, which is understandable. It's not clear here but I assume Andres paid all of Santi's student loan as a revenge. Anyway, they divorced he left town and MC. Up until this point, there is no indication neither Emily nor Andres loved each other but Andres loved MC as his son, this is an accepted fact from all 3 sides. Then MC became unruly, whole Erynn thing etc. He was getting in trouble, some problems at school too etc. Emily decided to send MC to Andres as he is the only person MC was obeying to. At the beginning, it was only for a summer. Though, Andres realized MC going back to Emily would only harm him, so he suggested keeping MC long term. Emily reluctantly agreed. Then dude become the single dad to a child he has no blood relation. MC remembers those times fondly too. MC refused to talk to his mother. Never answered the phones, even refused to see her in person when she tried to reconnect. Did I mention MC is huge twat? Anyways, it's the beginning of the game at this point.
So, Santi refused and ran away first time he heard about MC. Then sent his parents. Then refused to see him after almost a decade later. He never intended to be MC's parent. Emily used Andres as long as she needed him. Nobody mentions this but Santi's parents offered money because Emily's financial struggles. Iirc, Emily was estranged with her family. So, she decided to stay with a guy who she never loved to use him to raise a child. Up until the whole Andres cheating on Haley thing, she thought Andres was in love with her and she was okay to use him. She easily broke her promise as soon as she had a chance. I really don't understand why people like Emily around here, she is despicable.
I don't blame him for being angry either, but Erynn is also a huge twat for staying friend with Ethan.MC is a huge twat if you ask me but he had a reason to believe Erynn was laughing at him, then when he tried to talk again Ethan bullied him. He did not leave the next day, so he saw Ethan and Erynn staying good friends, probably second best friend after Alexis everyday. His anger was not uncalled for. Also, he was around 10 at the time.
I can't agree on this one, sorry. If you want to see that in negative way, she is plain stupid. Or if you want to see it in positive way, she is naïve. Ethan is good at manipulating people and he manipulated Erynn. I am not going to victim blame her on this. Was it wrong to stay friends with him after MC left? Definitely. Is she a bad person because of it? Absolutely not. I don't like her a bit, she is not that beautiful either. Whenever someone mentions how beautiful she is, I say 'yeah, right' but not a twat about that. Only time Erynn being unfair was her interaction with Alexis at the bar, especially when she blamed her fucking Ethan, other than that I don't remember her being a bad person. Btw, I don't believe in her explanation. There is more to there we don't know. When someone confessed to you, you don't say just a minute and go laugh at memes. I would not be surprised she was laughing at MC about the confession.Erynn is also a huge twat for staying friend with Ethan.
Nyx loves teasing the incest crowd with something they'll never get precisely because they blow up over it.I don't give a rats ass about the motorcycle scene. Why do you have renders like this in the fucking game if the mom is not an LI? That is just BS. Space filler/tease
I don't think she's a horrible person. I think she's absolute moron for staying friends with him. It doesn't take a rocket science to see he's a total cunt, manipulative or not. Look at the way he treats people. Alexis just tolerates him for Erynn. Would you stay friends with a person similar to Ethan, who also bullies another one of your friends?I can't agree on this one, sorry. If you want to see that in negative way, she is plain stupid. Or if you want to see it in positive way, she is naïve. Ethan is good at manipulating people and he manipulated Erynn. I am not going to victim blame her on this. Was it wrong to stay friends with him after MC left? Definitely. Is she a bad person because of it? Absolutely not. I don't like her a bit, she is not that beautiful either. Whenever someone mentions how beautiful she is, I say 'yeah, right' but not a twat about that. Only time Erynn being unfair was her interaction with Alexis at the bar, especially when she blamed her fucking Ethan, other than that I don't remember her being a bad person. Btw, I don't believe in her explanation. There is more to there we don't know. When someone confessed to you, you don't say just a minute and go laugh at memes. I would not be surprised she was laughing at MC about the confession.
I would not, that's one of the reason I think there is more than dev told us. That whole interaction was sketchy to put it mildly. We'll see, if dev ever shows us. When I say twat to a person though, I usually mean they are direct contender for annually held the most horrible person tournament.I don't think she's a horrible person. I think she's absolute moron for staying friends with him. It doesn't take a rocket science to see he's a total cunt, manipulative or not. Look at the way he treats people. Alexis just tolerates him for Erynn. Would you stay friends with person similar to Ethan, who also bullies another one of your friends?
I don't blame him for being angry either, but Erynn is also a huge twat for staying friend with Ethan.
To clarify, she did not stay friends with him at all and escaped his 'clutches' and moved on without him...and then she met and started dating Zane...I can't agree on this one, sorry. If you want to see that in negative way, she is plain stupid. Or if you want to see it in positive way, she is naïve. Ethan is good at manipulating people and he manipulated Erynn. I am not going to victim blame her on this. Was it wrong to stay friends with him after MC left? Definitely. Is she a bad person because of it? Absolutely not. I don't like her a bit, she is not that beautiful either. Whenever someone mentions how beautiful she is, I say 'yeah, right' but not a twat about that. Only time Erynn being unfair was her interaction with Alexis at the bar, especially when she blamed her fucking Ethan, other than that I don't remember her being a bad person. Btw, I don't believe in her explanation. There is more to there we don't know. When someone confessed to you, you don't say just a minute and go laugh at memes. I would not be surprised she was laughing at MC about the confession.
I don't blame her for staying friends with him because Ethan changed to pretended to be nice infront of her when the MC left. Only when she wouldn't date him she showed his true colors again and that's when she cut him out of her life until the blackmail. Yeah you could say she should of known better but when I was that age I was far too trusting , still am to do a degree so easy for me to see how she didn't see through the lies.I don't think she's a horrible person. I think she's absolute moron for staying friends with him. It doesn't take a rocket science to see he's a total cunt, manipulative or not. Look at the way he treats people. Alexis just tolerates him for Erynn. Would you stay friends with a person similar to Ethan, who also bullies another one of your friends?