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me ranking my top 5 favorite intertwines

1. Erryn vs. Alexis—Alexis is your girlfriend with whom you have a history, yet you can't get over the girl next door, no matter how much you both may want it. This outcome is going to be brutal
2. Elena vs. Layla—The universe seems to want you to accept Layla, yet her spicy friend in her sexy outfit really catches your eye. Do you accept the innocent Layla or take the risk and pursue Elena?
3. Alexis vs. Val- This outcome legit will come down to who makes your pee-pee harder. Not much else to say here
4. Alexis vs. Cara/Nikki—You have a history with both, and it's quite easy to juggle both. There is sex galore on this intertwinement. It's not particularly intriguing, but it's super fun.
5. Melissa vs Emily- If Emily weren't such a dumbass, this wouldn't be an issue since that's obviously Iris's John. But still the aftermath of this one could be eye-opening.
 
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me ranking my top 5 favorite intertwines
5. Iris vs Emily- If Emily weren't such a dumbass, this wouldn't be an issue since that's obviously Iris's John. But still the aftermath of this one could be eye-opening.
I've gotta be missing something. You think Iris is gonna have a problem with Emily becoming her stepmom when Emily marries John and adopts Brooke? :whistle:

Edit-Cleared up due to edits. But still, we're adopting Brooke.
 
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me ranking my top 5 favorite intertwines

1. Erryn vs. Alexis—Alexis is your girlfriend with whom you have a history, yet you can't get over the girl next door, no matter how much you both may want it. This outcome is going to be brutal
2. Elena vs. Layla—The universe seems to want you to accept Layla, yet her spicy friend in her sexy outfit really catches your eye. Do you accept the innocent Layla or take the risk and pursue Elena?
3. Alexis vs. Val- This outcome legit will come down to who makes your pee-pee harder. Not much else to say here
4. Alexis vs. Cara/Nikki—You have a history with both, and it's quite easy to juggle both. There is sex galore on this intertwinement. It's not particularly intriguing, but it's super fun.
5. Melissa vs Emily- If Emily weren't such a dumbass, this wouldn't be an issue since that's obviously Iris's John. But still the aftermath of this one could be eye-opening.

Cara vs Nikki & Layla vs Alexis are way better than Elena vs Layla, Alexis vs Cara/Nikki
 
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Cara brings absolutely nothing to bear against Nikki. She's not even a good redhead.
true but she is starting to get better but yeah I think if Cara was in almost any other AVN I would of liked her more she just falls flat in this not cause her character sucks or she is boring but just much better options.
 
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0.13.2.
Does the compressor change the code in anyway? i thought compressors only change the size of the images and videos?
No it shouldn't change the code in any way/shape/form.

If the compressed version you were using was 13.0, a lot of bugs were fixed in 13.1 and 13.2. Including some logic. A patch from 13.0 or 13.1 to 13.2 may have inadvertently been applied incorrectly, which could also explain problems.

I think what you are describing might just be point creep. Some of the LIs, once you reach certain point thresholds the game "assumes" you are interested in them. I think Erynn was one of the ones, where once you reach above the point threshold it steers you towards the more romantic paths. Since there's no official relationship with her yet, it just sort of develops. If you have an older save, try reducing Erynn's points significantly and see if it changes that. If so, that's the case.

I'm not in front of my desktop, so can't check the code during Nathan's conversation right this moment.
 

LSC82

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Now I have to play another sister romance path now that I know a certain girls musty panties are left in the car, Im now intrigued by a new event possibly happening.
If it's a unique event, there doesn't appear to be any variables tracking it specifically. The only things "tracked" are the fact you liked her, and had access to the car. So it's possible it could show up in the future.

Also, of note, based on the conversation with Mira and Nathan, she does say she wants to go to Madison Springs with him in one scenario. So who's to say the drama is already over with her?

Quick legend:
  • na = Nathan
  • mc = Main Character
  • mr = Mira
Python:
if Riverside_End == True:
       ...
else:
        scene 13_2315 with Dissolve(1)
        na "But I come to visit you first."
        mc "The road trip?"
        na "Yup. I'm gonna do it."
        mr "What road trip?"
        scene 13_2316 with Dissolve(1)
        na "I'm planning to drive to Madison Springs in a week or two."
        mr "You are? Can I join you?"
        na "Uh... Sure. If you don't mind being in a car for 2 days."
        mr "No, that's fine..."
        na "How about we talk about it next week?"
        mr "Mm-hmm..."
        scene 13_2312 with Dissolve(1)
        na "Anyway. It was nice seeing you again [mc]. And we'll see each other again soon."
        mc "We will. See ya, Nate."
        na "Bye, [mc]. And I'll see you Monday, Mira."
        mr "Bye, Nathan."
        scene 13_2313 with Dissolve(1)
Even the flags/tags can be vague in this game...
But the game doesn't need a "Mira's panties" tag to know you fucked up.
You only have a car if you have a relationship in Riverside, otherwise you are on foot and the sex takes place inside her house.
And if you are with the car she always forgets her panties, maybe on purpose.

The big question now is wether Nikki/Cara will call the MC to tell him he's a prick or wait until they arrive next weekend...
me ranking my top 5 favorite intertwines

1. Erryn vs. Alexis—Alexis is your girlfriend with whom you have a history, yet you can't get over the girl next door, no matter how much you both may want it. This outcome is going to be brutal
2. Elena vs. Layla—The universe seems to want you to accept Layla, yet her spicy friend in her sexy outfit really catches your eye. Do you accept the innocent Layla or take the risk and pursue Elena?
3. Alexis vs. Val- This outcome legit will come down to who makes your pee-pee harder. Not much else to say here
4. Alexis vs. Cara/Nikki—You have a history with both, and it's quite easy to juggle both. There is sex galore on this intertwinement. It's not particularly intriguing, but it's super fun.
5. Melissa vs Emily- If Emily weren't such a dumbass, this wouldn't be an issue since that's obviously Iris's John. But still the aftermath of this one could be eye-opening.
Erynn vs Alexis is number 1 easily because the girls are best friends and it's a choice between the girl who effectively been with you since the first minutes of this story and the girl the MC always wanted since before he could understand liking girls.
Fallout should be huuuge.

Elena vs Layla i don't particularly like it because to me it feels a bit... artificial and forced.
We had to stay with Layla too long before getting this choice, and the fact that Elena only likes the MC if you have a relationship with Layla, if you are just friends she ignores you.
Could've been another Erynn-Alexis if the conflict wasn't so heavy handed and strictly enforced, best friends struggling because of a guy.

Emily-John-Melissa is great, it's tipically the type of confusion we can get the MC involved, but this time it's not about us, we can just grab our popcorn and watch the disaster from a distance lol.
 

minibaer12

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me ranking my top 5 favorite intertwines

1. Erryn vs. Alexis—Alexis is your girlfriend with whom you have a history, yet you can't get over the girl next door, no matter how much you both may want it. This outcome is going to be brutal
2. Elena vs. Layla—The universe seems to want you to accept Layla, yet her spicy friend in her sexy outfit really catches your eye. Do you accept the innocent Layla or take the risk and pursue Elena?
3. Alexis vs. Val- This outcome legit will come down to who makes your pee-pee harder. Not much else to say here
4. Alexis vs. Cara/Nikki—You have a history with both, and it's quite easy to juggle both. There is sex galore on this intertwinement. It's not particularly intriguing, but it's super fun.
5. Melissa vs Emily- If Emily weren't such a dumbass, this wouldn't be an issue since that's obviously Iris's John. But still the aftermath of this one could be eye-opening.
My comments:

on point 1: there is nothing more to add here that LSC82 has already said
on point 2: outside my interest
on point 3: this multipath already has the end flag, what it will look like remains to be seen
on point 4: this multipath already has the precursor to the end flag, what it will look like remains to be seen
on point 5: there is only one question here: is John Erynn's father? If so, the conversation between Melissa and Emily will be very interesting (or not). But I assume that Melissa will (again) get involved with John and Emily will return to her real love, Santi.
 
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LSC82

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My comments:

on point 1: there is nothing more to add here that LSC82 has already said
on point 2: outside my interest
on point 3: this multipath already has the end flag, what it will look like remains to be seen
on point 4: this multipath already has the precursor to the end flag, what it will look like remains to be seen
on point 5: there is only one question here: is John Erynn's father? If so, the conversation between Melissa and Emily will be very interesting (or not). But I assume that Melissa will (again) get involved with John and Emily will return to her real love, Santi.
I'll throw some thoughts about the ones i didn't before(because why the fuck not right ;) ).

Nikki-Cara, MilesEdgeworth said "Nikki/Cara vs Alexis", but to me Nikki/Cara don't feel aimed at any particular girl we can develop a relationship, anything that can be said about them vs Alexis, also applies to Erynn, Layla, Val... nothing ties them to Alexis in particular.
So in a way they are quite a generic "lover from a different town coming to cause havoc with your current boo".
Also goes without saying that they are always discussed as Nikki/Cara and not Nikki and Cara, despite having different personalities the plot points are always the same for both sisters... which makes it feel even more generic.

Val does have specific behaviour tied to Alexis, so far Alexis is the only LI that causes her to behave differently, if she's in a combo with Erynn or Nikki, she's totally unaware.
It will probably end soon however, we already had the option to break up with either girl for the other... i can't see the YOLO choice where you keep messing around with both girls going much further.
The MC even thinks to himself how screwed he is once Layla catches wind of the fact he's dating Val.
He told Val he would break up with Alexis and Alexis of course won't appreciate him being a cheat.
It's a combo that burned bright but will die fast.

And yeah the Melissa-Emily conversation will be hillarious to watch from a distance... and John-Emily certainly won't have a long future since an eventual marriage would block the Erynn(and Iris) path.
The MC moves out of Riverside and splits from Nikki/Cara to protect the Andres-Haley relationship, i think this time John and Emily will be the ones to take a step back for the happyness of their children.
 

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Melissa will (again) get involved with John and Emily will return to her real love, Santi.
I really can't think more boring outcome than this. Also, forgiving Santi who brought that much shit in her life. And yes, I can see it's not what you think it is cliché of Nyx but whatever the reasons he had, he was not there afterwards either.
 
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I really can't think more boring outcome than this. Also, forgiving Santi who brought that much shit in her life. And yes, I can see it's not what you think it is cliché of Nyx but whatever the reasons he had, he was not there afterwards either.
In the bar, when you sit with him, and drop Emily's name, there's certainly a lot of regret implied in his voice when he says (paraphrased) "Emily... My little Emi." So I wouldn't say 100% that he's over her.

I still think Brooke'll be the better match for her, and the one I push if I have any choice in the matter.

As to him not being there, it's right in the Emily flashback. His parents tried to pay her off to get rid of the baby, and she does not like that. When he confronts her at the beach, it seems like he was unaware of it, but is shut out by Emily.

The big question now is wether Nikki/Cara will call the MC to tell him he's a prick or wait until they arrive next weekend...
That kind of anger and retribution can only be dealt out in person. Over a phone call wouldn't be right. "yell yell yell" <beep>. Can't even slam a phone properly anymore, unlike the good ol' days. And yeah, I may have just dated myself there.
 
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I wonder.
if you set up John with Emily, would it prevent Santi from getting back with her in the future?
 

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In the bar, when you sit with him, and drop Emily's name, there's certainly a lot of regret implied in his voice when he says (paraphrased) "Emily... My little Emi." So I wouldn't say 100% that he's over her.

I still think Brooke'll be the better match for her, and the one I push if I have any choice in the matter.

As to him not being there, it's right in the Emily flashback. His parents tried to pay her off to get rid of the baby, and she does not like that. When he confronts her at the beach, it seems like he was unaware of it, but is shut out by Emily.
I didn’t see it as regret, but a guy who still has fond memories for the girl he dated when he was young.
The "little Emi" line plus the look on his face when he says that tells me he wants a trip down memory lane.
And of course if Emily goes on the John date, they see each other and Santiago shoots her a text, 100% looking re-spark the flame.
We know from the Gabi route that Santiago is recently divorced.

And yeah Santiago froze at first, told his parents(who either did something without his approval or he's a giant moron when he doesn't understand why Emily doesn't wanna speak with him), but it seems like he was planning on stepping up.
Still didn't try hard enough, right?
That kind of anger and retribution can only be dealt out in person. Over a phone call wouldn't be right. "yell yell yell" <beep>. Can't even slam a phone properly anymore, unlike the good ol' days. And yeah, I may have just dated myself there.
No doubt, it will be much better if they wait and do it in person.

And pressing "end call" on a screen just doesn't hit the same :ROFLMAO:

I wonder.
if you set up John with Emily, would it prevent Santi from getting back with her in the future?
Who knows? But i don't expect much future for John and Emily...
Makes the MCs relationship with Erynn (and Iris) awkward(and forbidden if it keeps going), hurts her best friend Melissa... i think they'll end things pretty soon when they figure out who the "players" are.
Santiago of course, recently divorced, and on the prowl for Emily... and seeing that she has something with John didn’t slow him down.
 

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Wait, am I remembering it wrong are Santi and Gabi a thing? Isn't Gabi married to an agent?

And I wonder why the dev is keeping Val's mom hidden. It's not like would recognize her?
 
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I didn’t see it as regret, but a guy who still has fond memories for the girl he dated when he was young.
The "little Emi" line plus the look on his face when he says that tells me he wants a trip down memory lane.
And of course if Emily goes on the John date, they see each other and Santiago shoots her a text, 100% looking re-spark the flame.
We know from the Gabi route that Santiago is recently divorced.

And yeah Santiago froze at first, told his parents(who either did something without his approval or he's a giant moron when he doesn't understand why Emily doesn't wanna speak with him), but it seems like he was planning on stepping up.
Still didn't try hard enough, right?
Hmmm... yeah you may be right. I get the feeling, from the beach flashback, that he didn't understand why Emily was so upset and shut him out. So perhaps that's at play as well.

As my main playthroughs Emily didn't go on the date with John, that would be why I didn't remember that text. But you are correct. Odd, that since he knows she works at the restaurant, they've been in the same town, and they had been talking that he didn't say something sooner. Although maybe seeing her with John may have sparked a bit of jealousy.

Although, at that point in time, he's still (presumably) married to Gabi... something Emily might not be very understanding of.

Wait, am I remembering it wrong are Santi and Gabi a thing? Isn't Gabi married to an agent?

And I wonder why the dev is keeping Val's mom hidden. It's not like would recognize her?
She is married yes, and there is a photo in her house if you are on her path that looks eerily like a wedding photo of Gabi and Santi. The second trip, the photo is gone. There is a story to her path about their relationship.
 
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Wait, am I remembering it wrong are Santi and Gabi a thing? Isn't Gabi married to an agent?

And I wonder why the dev is keeping Val's mom hidden. It's not like would recognize her?
Santiago is the agent, and it seems like they are recently divorced.

Main suspect of being Val's mom is actress Ximena Vergara from the show within a show Entanglement(lots of girls like it, Alexis, Layla, Brooke...).
We've met her when she came to the restaurant, she's also a good friend to Gabi.

No idea what crazy plans Nyx have to be holding back this reveal...
Or she's just so used to hiding identities(like she did with Zo) that she does out of habit?

Hmmm... yeah you may be right. I get the feeling, from the beach flashback, that he didn't understand why Emily was so upset and shut him out. So perhaps that's at play as well.

As my main playthroughs Emily didn't go on the date with John, that would be why I didn't remember that text. But you are correct. Odd, that since he knows she works at the restaurant, they've been in the same town, and they had been talking that he didn't say something sooner. Although maybe seeing her with John may have sparked a bit of jealousy.

Although, at that point in time, he's still (presumably) married to Gabi... something Emily might not be very understanding of.
It certainly seems like seeing Emily with a different dude sparked him into action...
He could've contacted her regardless, but only does after the John date.

She is married yes, and there is a photo in her house if you are on her path that looks eerily like a wedding photo of Gabi and Santi. The second trip, the photo is gone. There is a story to her path about their relationship.
First time we talk to her in class she says she's a married woman.
Their relationship was bad before the game started, Gabi was out drinking in our first encounter out of frustration with him.
At the training camp she's clearly yelling at him over the phone.
Then the giant marriage photo is gone...
And Gabi is going out clubbing with Ximena and having a dinner that Ximena says it's to celebrate(Gabi denies that there's anything to be celebrated).

So it seems like they were married and now they split up.
 

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And I wonder why the dev is keeping Val's mom hidden. It's not like would recognize her?
No idea what crazy plans Nyx have to be holding back this reveal...
Or she's just so used to hiding identities(like she did with Zo) that she does out of habit?
There is a system in this game. All people whose names are not mentioned are always referred to as "???".
 

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In the bar, when you sit with him, and drop Emily's name, there's certainly a lot of regret implied in his voice when he says (paraphrased) "Emily... My little Emi." So I wouldn't say 100% that he's over her.

I still think Brooke'll be the better match for her, and the one I push if I have any choice in the matter.

As to him not being there, it's right in the Emily flashback. His parents tried to pay her off to get rid of the baby, and she does not like that. When he confronts her at the beach, it seems like he was unaware of it, but is shut out by Emily.
A volleyball drawn a face to it called Wilson will be better than him, so not a big accomplishment on Brooke.

I am not sure you remember the flashbacks as well. Emily told about the baby to him and he fucking ran away then sent his parents. A simple I didn't know can't be true or won't cut it either. Emily, as stupid as she is, can still go for him. After she used Andres to raise MC and now the responsibility is lessened Santi can return their life and be a "father" to MC. That does not change the fact, neither Emily nor Santi is terrible people and them being end up together is boring, cliché, witless end for them. Oh, btw I don't defend Andres at all either, he deserved everything happened to him and more. Though, MC being such an asshole to him is really sad, dude was his father all his life and most of it as a single parent, yet MC cut him off like it was all nothing.
 
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