VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.2] [Nyx]

[Deleted member 207916]

There, corrected it for 'ya

Thanks, i'm really not good with emojis. I tried for several times "eye emoji" but it always ended up example :

MC : (empty space instead of eyes)

Gaby : (empty space instead of eyes)

 

[DA22]

After playing this update I’m so conflicted on Erryn. I’m not convinced she’s an escort... but I definitely get the impression she’s a dancer in a VIP section and being forced out of her comfort zone. If she were an escort wouldn’t that be pushing the boundaries of NTR (which would cause a civil war in the chat)?

I have no idea what she is doing or supposed to do, also no idea if she is still being groomed for whatever is planned or it is already happening for a while. Only Nyx knows that for a reason.

Only thing I know is that phonecall, that she is dressed for the nightlife in an extremely sexy dress and not in baggy trousers and shirt to look as unattractive as possible and that that guy feels he has the right to put his hand on her ass and that Erryn might not agree with that based on her reaction, but does not stop him or decks him either. All the rest is just assumptions. Now also for a stripper or modelling job she needs to be sexy on stage, not for going to the place. Fact she is dressed so sexy might mean nothing, but it is kinda interesting.

 

[Ursus4321]

Didn't think I would post here for a while...



I'm not Emily's fan at all, but.
Imho, 99% of the hate Emily receives here is because people immerse themselves with Andres. Emily/Andres/Santhiago is this painfully realistic cliche that hit too close to home for a lot of people. Nyx depicted that cliche perfectly.
But the thing is, it was Andres' fuck up to put himself in that situation to begin with. He was either too hormonal as a teenager, or had(has) a shitton of self-esteem issues, so he is prone to self-destructing behavior. I mean come on, marrying an uhm... open-minded girl who just had some other guys baby and who doesn't seem to care about you that much - what could POSSIBLY go wrong, right? Emily didn't hide anything from him.
If you don't like something, you don't give lectures (because who the fuck are you to do that), you politely excuse yourself and go away. He didn't, he chose to stay and play Captain Saveahoe. As far as I'm concerned he can only blame himself for his choices. The lesson here is the classic "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

But getting back to your actual post The only "bad" thing that she did to the MC was compromising his happy family by:
m "But once I started meeting up with Santhiago, things became worse."
m "I know I shouldn't have, but we only talked, mostly about you."
m "But Andres thought I was cheating on him and broke the promise I made."

That was a fuck up, if all of that was for the MC then she could have approached it differently, but it wasn't. This situation is poetically flawed and there are no good guys there at all.

"As a mother she is worth nothing" - is WAY out of line, dude. She had arguably failed MC ONCE.
You can see how much thought and love is put into all the characters, why not be a bit more chill and respectful?

Edit: and it was never a fucking incest game omfg stooooop

So getting rid of the son because he had a streak of rebellion, which she should know was due to because he talked to Eryn, and sending him away is a symptom of being a loving and good mother?
Having sneaky encounters with your ex-lover alone is also about being a good mother?
I think we have very different concepts about what a good mother is then

 

[DA22]

Well in real life i wouldn't do that. I may be poisnius person but i have this rule of my own : Never take what's taken. If something like that happen, idk, that never happend to me in real life cause i do try to get info about girl that i'm interested from different peoples. Maybe i would feel guilty. That aproach had saved my ass more than once.

However in this game MC got drunk, Gabi also, clearly they didn't knew what they're doing, its not much of excuse but i think we can agree on their behalf that it wasn't intentional. MC as a young person clearly didn't feel guilty but instead move along while Gabi probably felt guilty as adault.

Your q is realy a good one and there's no right answer here. What ever answer i give in some point it will be wrong.

Yeah that is why I said beyond the fact she is a married woman, even if you leave morals aside you can easily get in all kinds of drama by sleeping around with married women. The fact it is Santi though, would bother me as MC not one bit more or less as if it would be any other guy. Hell if Emily still has feelings for him and wants to get him back, I might even be doing her a good turn by possibly helping to make him single again. Just as long as she would not ever expect me to call him dad or treat him as one, if that would make her happy fine with me. If he hurts her again, he is dead.

Edit: Now what could be a scary idea is if Gaby knows that MC would be her husbands DNA with another woman in distant past and if so what her reason was to bed him and allow him to come inside her.

 

[gixxer750]

Am I the only one who thinks

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Oh no please not! That would rule both the sister out ...

 

[Volume115]

I have no idea what she is doing or supposed to do, also no idea if she is still being groomed for whatever is planned or it is already happening for a while. Only Nyx knows that for a reason.

Only thing I know is that phonecall, that she is dressed for the nightlife in an extremely sexy dress and not in baggy trousers and shirt to look as unattractive as possible and that that guy feels he has the right to put his hand on her ass and that Erryn might not agree with that based on her reaction, but does not stop him or decks him either. All the rest is just assumptions. Now also for a stripper or modelling job she needs to be sexy on stage, not for going to the place. Fact she is dressed so sexy might mean nothing, but it is kinda interesting.

Also in conversation between Melissa and Erryn in last episode, there is:

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So if this would be some blackmail thing or something even worst, then she wouldn't even mention a work here. My assumptions are that she have some kind of debt and she has to work like hostess (probably nothing more).

There is also this post from Nyx:

Maybe it's not for them but to distract the other players who'll be looking at her instead of concentrating on the game.
Plenty of possibilities.

I see this like a hint, that Erryn isn't a stripper or something like that, but just a hostess, who most likely have to scam people.

But these are only assumption and we will know the truth in new episode.

 

[Deleted member 207916]

Yeah that is why I said beyond the fact she is a married woman, even if you leave morals aside you can easily get in all kinds of drama by sleeping around with married women. The fact it is Santi though, would bother me as MC not one bit more or less as if it would be any other guy. Hell if Emily still has feelings for him and wants to get him back, I might even be doing her a good turn by possibly helping to make him single again. Just as long as she would not ever expect me to call him dad or treat him as one, if that would make her happy fine with me. If he hurts her again, he is dead.

Edit: Now what could be a scary idea is if Gaby knows that MC would be her husbands DNA with another woman in distant past and if so what her reason was to bed him and allow him to come inside her.

Agree on several ocasions here. I also wouldn't like to call Santi "Dad". Like where were you dude for all those years? You knew that MC existed, that he's your son and you didn't even try to by him b-day gift or see him at school . Yeah but no thanks. We can be blood related but i would never call him dad. He lost that privelege long ago.

I would rather give another shot to Andres, cause you at least know the guy, both good and bad side of him. Of course Andres needs to come clean first.

As for Gabi, i would do that kind of thing. Not in real life but in this game. I would hook up MC with Gabi if Emily is interesting still with Santi. Of course there's a price tag here, you see Santi will probably be aware who you are and be filled with discust and hate. But hey that's the price i would pay to make Em happy.

 

[DA22]

Also in conversation between Melissa and Erryn in last episode, there is:

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So if this would be some blackmail thing or something even worst, then she wouldn't even mention a work here. My assumptions are that she have some kind of debt and she has to work like hostess (probably nothing more).

There is also this post from Nyx:

I see this like a hint, that Erryn isn't a stripper or something like that, but just a hostess, who most likely have to scam people.

But these are only assumption and we will know the truth in new episode.

Yeah Erryn being forced to scam and/or also distract people with her looks was an option I also offered before as not impossible on what little we know. Hostess in a decent club with nothing more? For that she reacts too strongly in my opinion and besides the owners of clubs like that do not need to force girls to work there with a university or such near most of the time. Just pay good decent wages. Besides blackmailing people for working at such an overall pretty public place even in a vip room is kinda stupid, since you will most likely meet some people while working there that will know you unless you work quite far away from where you live or study over time anyway making your blackmail threat come true anyway by her working there.......

 

[Maviarab]

Imo Andres was actually a pretty decent guy (and father) until it was revealed that he is cheating on his fiance, while "past" Emily did a lot of questionable things (marrying a guy she didn't love, giving away her son), yet we are kind of forced to like Emily and dislike Andres.

Not like literally millions have women the world over have married for money...stability...protection...oh you know, all the usual things people look for in a relationship. Love is irelevent...it can grow in time.

However, I'll say it once more...whether you want to believe it or not is pointless and rather moot, but every relationship.....every one...especially when it comes to dating...is a business transaction. Every...single...one. Look at it in python code for a moment.

Do you get what you want from it
Label_choice
If yes then:
else:
No:

If yes continue until label_choice
If no then Label_choice 2

Label_choice 2
if no then leave?
if yes:

See my point? I personally see no problem with anyone dating, marrying or whatever to get what they want out of a relationship. Because, ultimately, everyone does, even if you never realised it or thought about it. However, all this shit posting for emily, Andres still married her knowing the facts...knowing he was second best....knowing she was with him for protection, security, stability, financially....

Sometimes it works out...sometimes it doesn't. Thems the choices and chances you take. So what exactly was wrong with marrying him without love? Unfortunately, knights in castles and fair maidens in towers don't exist in the real world. Personally I think anyone marrying for love is a bloody idiot (romantic though yes), as, while John Lennon may have been a lyrical genius, you do need a damn sight more than just love.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Not like literally millions have women the world over have married for money...stability...protection...oh you know, all the usual things people look for in a relationship. Love is irelevent...it can grow in time.

However, I'll say it once more...whether you want to believe it or not is pointless and rather moot, but every relationship.....every one...especially when it comes to dating...is a business transaction. Every...single...one. Look at it in python code for a moment.

Do you get what you want from it
Label_choice
If yes then:
else:
No:

If yes continue until label_choice
If no then Label_choice 2

Label_choice 2
if no then leave?
if yes:

See my point? I personally see no problem with anyone dating, marrying or whatever to get what they want out of a relationship. Because, ultimately, everyone does, even if you never realised it or thought about it. However, all this shit posting for emily, Andres still married her knowing the facts...knowing he was second best....knowing she was with him for protection, security, stability, financially....

Sometimes it works out...sometimes it doesn't. Thems the choices and chances you take. So what exactly was wrong with marrying him without love? Unfortunately, knights in castles and fair maidens in towers don't exist in the real world.

That was very profound Mavi

 

[Maviarab]

That was very profound Mavi

Why thank you good sir!

 

[Volume115]

Yeah Erryn being forced to scam and/or also distract people with her looks was an option I also offered before as not impossible on what little we know. Hostess in a decent club with nothing more? For that she reacts too strongly in my opinion and besides the owners of clubs like that do not need to force girls to work there with a university or such near most of the time. Just pay good decent wages. Besides blackmailing people for working at such an overall pretty public place even in a vip room is kinda stupid, since you will most likely meet some people while working there that will know you unless you work quite far away from where you live or study over time anyway making your blackmail threat come true anyway by her working there.......

Yep her reaction also don't fit there for me. My thought are that she is idk "afraid", because she know that there will be people who will grope her or something like that and that she is a "tool" to maybe scam people. Or maybe this is just a trap from author, to make us more involved in story and add more dramaturgy.

Idk, that scene looks like this is something terrific and fuck up, but these few hints that we have aren't showing it that way and i am personally thinking that this will be some kind of debt situation with hostess/scam people job, without some fuck up things like blackmailed prostitution.

And my thought are that that scene with guy hand on her ass is just to make things more spicy for new update, there is a chance that we will see scene after that, where she is scolding that guy.

 

[ItsNotMeToo]

Erynn I feel like my MC is more BFFs with her than a LI at this point, yes he had his crush in the past, but when Lexi and Nikki are available, why would you chase someone who didn't chase you back?
For me, MC will want to 'free' or help or whatever with Erynn, but I feel like the heart still belongs to Lexi... those moments of passion...
If MC had never left, I'm sure he would have grown into having a relationship with Erynn, but alas... he left, and I hit reset with Lexi (Nikki #2!).

 

[Canto Forte]

Bosses being creepy, clients being creepy at work are conversation topics 4 chicks all the time,
them being the fair opressed sex, usually only if blackmail or sexual favors are exchanged gurls will keep mouth shut.
But it shows, like here, it shows. Please remember even strippers are held at a no touch standard during working hours,
That is the policy, even MC be like: you CANNOT ALLOW CUSTOMERS ORGY IN YOUR NIGHT CLUB, DOG!

Also in conversation between Melissa and Erryn in last episode, there is:

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So if this would be some blackmail thing or something even worst, then she wouldn't even mention a work here. My assumptions are that she have some kind of debt and she has to work like hostess (probably nothing more).

There is also this post from Nyx:

I see this like a hint, that Erryn isn't a stripper or something like that, but just a hostess, who most likely have to scam people.

But these are only assumption and we will know the truth in new episode.

Agree on several ocasions here. I also wouldn't like to call Santi "Dad". Like where were you dude for all those years? You knew that MC existed, that he's your son and you didn't even try to by him b-day gift or see him at school . Yeah but no thanks. We can be blood related but i would never call him dad. He lost that privelege long ago.

I would rather give another shot to Andres, cause you at least know the guy, both good and bad side of him. Of course Andres needs to come clean first.

As for Gabi, i would do that kind of thing. Not in real life but in this game. I would hook up MC with Gabi if Emily is interesting still with Santi. Of course there's a price tag here, you see Santi will probably be aware who you are and be filled with discust and hate. But hey that's the price i would pay to make Em happy.

Yeah Erryn being forced to scam and/or also distract people with her looks was an option I also offered before as not impossible on what little we know. Hostess in a decent club with nothing more? For that she reacts too strongly in my opinion and besides the owners of clubs like that do not need to force girls to work there with a university or such near most of the time. Just pay good decent wages. Besides blackmailing people for working at such an overall pretty public place even in a vip room is kinda stupid, since you will most likely meet some people while working there that will know you unless you work quite far away from where you live or study over time anyway making your blackmail threat come true anyway by her working there.......

Not like literally millions have women the world over have married for money...stability...protection...oh you know, all the usual things people look for in a relationship. Love is irelevent...it can grow in time.

However, I'll say it once more...whether you want to believe it or not is pointless and rather moot, but every relationship.....every one...especially when it comes to dating...is a business transaction. Every...single...one. Look at it in python code for a moment.

Do you get what you want from it
Label_choice
If yes then:
else:
No:

If yes continue until label_choice
If no then Label_choice 2

Label_choice 2
if no then leave?
if yes:

See my point? I personally see no problem with anyone dating, marrying or whatever to get what they want out of a relationship. Because, ultimately, everyone does, even if you never realised it or thought about it. However, all this shit posting for emily, Andres still married her knowing the facts...knowing he was second best....knowing she was with him for protection, security, stability, financially....

Sometimes it works out...sometimes it doesn't. Thems the choices and chances you take. So what exactly was wrong with marrying him without love? Unfortunately, knights in castles and fair maidens in towers don't exist in the real world. Personally I think anyone marrying for love is a bloody idiot (romantic though yes), as, while John Lennon may have been a lyrical genius, you do need a damn sight more than just love.

Erynn I feel like my MC is more BFFs with her than a LI at this point, yes he had his crush in the past, but when Lexi and Nikki are available, why would you chase someone who didn't chase you back?
For me, MC will want to 'free' or help or whatever with Erynn, but I feel like the heart still belongs to Lexi... those moments of passion...
If MC had never left, I'm sure he would have grown into having a relationship with Erynn, but alas... he left, and I hit reset with Lexi (Nikki #2!).

MC left because he had nothing to give to any of the gurls he lived with!
This is baffling: MC HAD LITERAL BOMBSHELLS LIVING ALL AROUND HIM ALL HIS YOUTH, yet he chose to abbandon them.
He shut himself inside like some recluse and did not search 4 the spotlight, much like any other kid his age.

 

[Volume115]

That is the literal definition of a fuck up: black mail people for fkk favors to keep their jobs.



Where were you when the weinstein trials happened? Actresses paid 50 mills for movies after they
showed him skin in the auditions to make him choose them whined of how powerless and opressed they are.

Yea i have maybe used bad words. This is fuck up and bad, this game has a lot of that kind situation and there will be much more. But writing that this is not "fuck up", I was referring more to assumptions that she is prostitution/stripper and she is selling her body and something like that. If you compare blackmailed prostitution, to being "only" a hostess without sexual acts, then being hostess is not that fuck up ;d. It is still, but it is not such extreme.

 

[Deleted member 207916]

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Nope. Paid attention to the script and replayed the game to be sure.



The innocent mother who didn't lie to the MC (it's not like the lie was something serious) and didn't do anything to deserve all the hate. Melissa had a one-night stand, and between the two of them it's an easy pick to say who was the mature, more responsible person. In the present, Emily is the mature lady and Melissa acts childish or is playfully teasing the MC and Erynn, but she's still a caring mom.



He didn't break up with her, it's possible that she did BEFORE telling Santiago that he got her pregnant... he came to apologize to her and she kinda didn't give a fuck about it, told him to kiss her ass or something like that, it's not officially shown or stated. She was pregnant and she decide to not give a fuck and "just have fun. Dancing, chatting, maybe a little bit of flirting too", and she was in the mood to get fucked...



They played with their muffins and went to sleep, women can hook up with other women, but it's still cheating. Andres came to apologize the next morning for acting out, not for dumping her, wouldn't be a surprise if she dumped him and came back to him after Santiago's parents paid her to get an abortion.



Clearly, or the woman did some really stupid shit that made the BF lose his shit. Ppl tend to get angry for all kinds of things... btw, why do u always act like an a... busive dude toward other users ?? I never said Andres was a saint, I said he was a decent dude and a fool for marrying a slut who was pregnant with a douchebag's kid... bonus, he raised the kid as his own, and even took care of him when his mommy sent him packing, even if she was at fault for their divorce. Andres got jealous, what kinda dumb motherfucker lets his wife still be "friends" with her ex ?? But present-day Andres is an asshole for punching the MC and cheating on Hailey, the complete opposite of how Emily says he was, we agree on this.



No offense, but this post is really stupid... so you mean to tell me that you defend irresponsible bitches who put their kids in foster care or get abortions coz they were a mistake, why blame the innocent woman ?? And to answer your question... yes, they are, and yea, it is mostly, not entirely, the woman's fault. She should force the dude she fucks to wear a condom or she should take the pill. Plus, there's lots of methods to avoid that, just ask the pornstars how many kids they made after getting fucked on set.



We gotta give credit to those "idiots" for not insulting or reporting the smart dude who constantly throws tantrums and insults other users for having different opinions/preferences. You must be the life of the party, dude, wherever you go, fun follows, but don't react like that IRL too, ok ?? Some bois won't have the same patience with you that all these "idiots" have.

I wonder why the mods don't persecute this guy for his "intellectual" remarks and outbursts.

Don't tell me you to. Hell that m kid is something. I must admit i was idiot and fool for trying positive aproach. Just block him you'll save your self a lot of trouble. Its always easy to be an internet warrior but i would like to see him to act like that infront of me. I must admit i would lose my temper. M kid simply don't like when you expres your point of view and opinion. If you think differently you're not allowed. If you dislike some characters and he likes those characters well then that's also not allowed. Friendly advice just be carefull with him. I blocked him so i save my nerves and time with arguing with a kid that pretends to understand the world and grown ups. Cheers and fair good ammount of points and argument you made here.

 

[Deleted member 1694250]

Yea i have maybe used bad words. This is fuck up and bad, this game has a lot of that kind situation and there will be much more. But writing that this is not "fuck up", I was referring more to assumptions that she is prostitution/stripper and she is selling her body and something like that. If you compare blackmailed prostitution, to being "only" a hostess without sexual acts, then being hostess is not that fuck up ;d. It is still, but it is not such extreme.

I get what you mean. She’s not in a great spot of course, but you’re thinking it could be far worse... especially given with some of the context clues sprinkled in.

 

[Canto Forte]

Fair enough, still many gurls really show up for parties where they are the literal skin / meat / eye candy and
nuthin more. Babes be showing up in parties just to parade themselves, because of the attendance.

Yea i have maybe used bad words. This is fuck up and bad, this game has a lot of that kind situation and there will be much more. But writing that this is not "fuck up", I was referring more to assumptions that she is prostitution/stripper and she is selling her body and something like that. If you compare blackmailed prostitution, to being "only" a hostess without sexual acts, then being hostess is not that fuck up ;d. It is still, but it is not such extreme.

Why would such pretend high class but bad gurls get distressed until crying:
”cause they will make a fuss when guests start treating them like the dumb bimbos they dress/act to be.
You would not believe how lost 4 words these gurls are, you cannot literally have a conversation with them,
because they are bored, out right tired but 4 unearthly reason they still show up scarcely dressed to tease.

Such gurls have it easy, they make up shortages or petty reasons to whine, while playing hard to get.
Eyrinn is crying because she acts like some escort/slut but in truth, she thought she was a tease in her
own head and thought she would get away with it.

 

[Volume115]

I get what you mean. She’s not in a great spot of course, but you’re thinking it could be far worse... especially given with some of the context clues sprinkled in.

Exactly. I am not gona lie, that scene raised my pressure and i felt bad for her ;d But after a short analysis it don't look that bad, like it was shown.

I just wanted to add my two cents to this topic, it will maybe help somebody with his analysis ;d