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LSC82

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For those who doesn't know we have a new update from the future on Valeria. Unfortunately Valeria and Mc broke up in the future. So this Mc from another game called Anthony goes to an island where people will start a new life and forget the bad past or tragic moments in their lives. Then Anthony met Valeria in a Hotel the question is why Valeria is here where people want to start a new life and forget all the bad past. The worst part is Valeria Personality changes too she's acting like a brat bitch not the innocent cute Valeria we know in the game it's literally 180 change of personality. What the hell actually happen to the Mc and Valeria and they broke up in the future.

Game name: u4ia

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And this is the last dialogue Valeria said:

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Can someone tell me what word that Valeria hated the most?
I'm not sure if this is an attempt at humor...
Anyways... it doesn't mean anything, it's just devs having fun with cross universe stuff.

Ignoring the fact that it doesn't mean anything, and we get to make our own choices, the fact that she has a photo with the MC as her wallpaper would be pretty positive, it means things are still playing out and she still likes him.

"It's complicated" is there just to leave it open ended, Intertwined is an open ended story that allows you to chose your destiny and we don't need any of that "Valeria is canon" type of discussion.
Nothing against the character, it's just that these discussions are boring and never end well.
 

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I think this is only applicable if you follow the "Fuckboy" route on intertwined or Mc generally cheats on Valeria for other girls. As we know that Navarro (Santiago) was the father of the Mc and we know Santiago is a degenerate fuckboy who impregnates Emily then left her alone, Divorce Gabi, Then start another new family with the principal. Like father like son

This is my theory 2 months ago in Gabi's route that Navarro was her husband.

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While we know that Santiago is the MC's biological father and that is the same guy that we meet at various times at the bar and see on the wall at Gabi's place. It doesn't necessarily mean that Santiago and Gabi are or were ever married.
Nyx has stated that there will be no incest in Intertwined so Santiago is 100% NOT Lexi and Layla's father or Adrianna's husband.
Gabi being the MC's stepmother would also risk Patreon's wrath with incest rules, so no I don't think that they are or were married.
For me the most likely candidate for Lexi and Layla's father and Adrianna's husband is freaking Zo (Enzo Monroe?) the MC's basketball hero. Santiago is most likely his friend and also former agent, actually we know this from the end of the last episode.
Don't let the "gotcha" moment at the end of the last update fool you.
 
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lmYourFuckToy

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While we know that Santiago is the MC's biological father and that is the same guy that we meet at various times at the bar and see on the wall at Gabi's place. It doesn't necessarily mean that Santiago and Gabi are or were ever married.
Nyx has stated that there will be no incest in Intertwined so Santiago is 100% NOT Lexi and Layla's father or Adrianna's husband.
Gabi being the MC's stepmother would also risk Patreon's wrath with incest rules, so no I don't think that they are or were married.
For me the most likely candidate for Lexi and Layla's father and Adrianna's husband is freaking Zo (Enzo Monroe?) the MC's basketball hero. Santiago is most likely his friend and also former agent, actually we know this from the end of the last episode.
Don't let the "gotcha" moment at the end of the last update fool you.
Huh? are you even playing the same game?

"It doesn't necessarily mean that Santiago and Gabi are or were ever married"

There are proof and evidences that Santiago and Gabi we're married.
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Gabi has ring on her hand that she was married to Santiago and why would she even put a large portrait of them together in her house if she's not married to him? it doesn't make any sense.

Even Ximena (Valeria mother most and likely) stated that she remembers the Mc of someone

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Obviously she was talking about Santiago looking a like to the Mc, well they're biologial father and son after all.

That's also why Gabi was sober all the time because Santiago left her for Adrianna

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"Gabi being the MC's stepmother" Huh? Gabi being a stepmother to Mc? Where all of these are coming from? I mean It's obviously that Santiago and Gabi are not together anymore because Santiago is with Adrianna right now even Alexis stated that he was her "Step father" So Gabi being stepmother to Mc is not applicable anymore.

So the question is what is the timeline where Gabi and Santiago broke up because it's look like Santiago is starting a new family with Adrianna where Alexis and Layla is comfortable saying dad to Santiago and it's look like it's a long time ago that Santiago and Adrianna we're together.

And still Gabi and Adrianna works under one school but we don't see any interaction between them. And I don't think Gabi knew Santiago left her with Adrianna. I also think that Santiago just left Gabi like that.

Even Santiago is a piece of shit he is an smartass too because on this scene where Adrianna, Alexis, and Layla is having a dinner Santiago didn't showed up because he knew Emily own the place and he doesn't want to complicate things.
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I'm not even going to be surprised that Santiago is trying to hit Valeria too


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Same shirt and everything obviously the game is hinting that Santiago and Mc are father and son or this guy might be a one of the son of Santiago who knows or just random guy because he appears two times on Valeria.
 
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Justaphase

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Huh? are you even playing the same game?

"It doesn't necessarily mean that Santiago and Gabi are or were ever married"

There are proof and evidences that Santiago and Gabi we're married.
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Gabi has ring on her hand that she was married to Santiago and why would she even put a large portrait of them together in her house if she's not married to him? it doesn't make any sense.

Even Ximena (Valeria mother most and likely) stated that she remembers the Mc of someone

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Obviously she was talking about Santiago looking a like to the Mc, well they're biologial father and son after all.

That's also why Gabi was sober all the time because Santiago left her for Adrianna

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"Gabi being the MC's stepmother" Huh? Gabi being a stepmother to Mc? Where all of these are coming from? I mean It's obviously that Santiago and Gabi are not together anymore because Santiago is with Adrianna right now even Alexis stated that he was her "Step father" So Gabi being stepmother to Mc is not applicable anymore.

So the question is what is the timeline where Gabi and Santiago broke up because it's look like Santiago is starting a new family with Adrianna where Alexis and Layla is comfortable saying dad to Santiago and it's look like it's a long time ago that Santiago and Adrianna we're together.

And still Gabi and Adrianna works under one school but we don't see any interaction between them. And I don't think Gabi knew Santiago left her with Adrianna. I also think that Santiago just left Gabi like that.

Even Santiago is a piece of shit he is an smartass too because on this scene where Adrianna, Alexis, and Layla is having a dinner Santiago didn't showed up because he knew Emily own the place and he doesn't want to complicate things.
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I'm not even going to be surprised that Santiago is trying to hit Valeria too


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Same shirt and everything obviously the game is hinting that Santiago and Mc are father and son or this guy might be a one of the son of Santiago who knows or just random guy because he appears two times on Valeria.
Of course I am playing the same game, but you are running away with some of your assumptions or theories.
I'm sure that Gabi and Santiago were in a relationship together, but not necessarily married. Engaged perhaps, but not married as if the MC can hook up with his "stepmother" by marriage would be against Patreon's incest rules, unless they were already divorced, but then her phone call with him after the track event wouldn't make much sense.
Nyx wouldn't risk her Patreon being taken down I'm sure. Also I've known plenty of women who wear a ring on that finger, can be a promise ring, engagement ring not necessarily a wedding ring.

Alexis never talks about her Dad being her step father (though it is technically possible that Adrianna already had Lexi before she met her current husband) so I'm not sure where you are getting that from.
Again having the MC hook up with his step or half sisters would be messy when it comes to Patreon. We never see Lexi and Layla's dad's face for a reason, while we do see Santiago's.
Nyx has already said that the end of the last update was a misunderstanding that will be cleared up immediately in the next update.
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Lexi was interrupted before she could finish when the MC asks her about Santiago "He's my Dad..." this will likely be my Dad's friend or agent or both.

But don't get me wrong, one of the best things about Intertwined is seeing everyone's different theories after playing the game. It shows what a great and complex story Nyx is telling and how she is always keeping us guessing.
 
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no step or half sisters, alleged dad's daughters aren't related to mc any ways. girls in city are different thing and them being half sisters is just nyx's teasing.
 

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Of course I am playing the same game, but you are running away with some of your assumptions or theories.
I'm sure that Gabi and Santiago were in a relationship together, but not necessarily married. Engaged perhaps, but not married as if the MC can hook up with his "stepmother" by marriage would be against Patreon's incest rules, unless they were already divorced, but then her phone call with him after the track event wouldn't make much sense.
Nyx wouldn't risk her Patreon being taken down I'm sure. Also I've known plenty of women who wear a ring on that finger, can be a promise ring, engagement ring not necessarily a wedding ring.

Alexis never talks about her Dad being her step father (though it is technically possible that Adrianna already had Lexi before she met her current husband) so I'm not sure where you are getting that from.
Again having the MC hook up with his step or half sisters would be messy when it comes to Patreon. We never see Lexi and Layla's dad's face for a reason, while we do see Santiago's.
Nyx has already said that the end of the last update was a misunderstanding that will be cleared up immediately in the next update.
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Lexi was interrupted before she could finish when the MC asks her about Santiago "He's my Dad..." this will likely be my Dad's friend or coach or both.

But don't get me wrong, one of the best things about Intertwined is seeing everyone's different theories after playing the game. It shows what a great and complex story Nyx is telling and how she is always keeping us guessing.
I'm just basing on the game itself that's why I assume that Gabi was married to Santiago, The mc said it himself I'm just showing that Santiago was the guy who married Gabi.

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So let's go to your Patreon assumption

Well firstly I don't know about these patreon incest things. So my definition about incest is if Mc is fucking Emily that's incest. But if the Mc is fucking Gabi which is santiago's wife but they we're not related I don't think it's incest but if it is categorized as incest in patreon well it is what it is.

"unless they were already divorced"

- I don't think they are divorced because of this scene this was the after the track event and the phone call

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- So Gabi still expecting that Santiago will still visit her because if they're divorced already Gabi will not let Santiago in her home.

This will also correspond to your other point

" Also I've known plenty of women who wear a ring on that finger, can be a promise ring, engagement ring not necessarily a wedding ring"

I think I will agree with you on this one that they're engage and still not married yet that Santiago just left her, because of this scene.

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Because it would be double worst if she's your teacher and also if she was married I don' think Gabi will continue the relationship but still gabi wants to continue. Triple worst if Gabi found out that Santiago was Mc's dad.

Plus at this point I think gabi is confused if she is going to pick between Mc or her fiancé if you call one those if you're engage. That's why she asked the Mc to don't fall for her.

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I think it is the best for the story that gabi and Santiago are engage and not married because I want to see the fight between Mc and Santiago


So let's go to my other point where Santiago might be Layla and Alexis stepfather. I'm still basing on the game.

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Then she got interrupted and I missed that part. So you might be right that

"He's my Dad... this will likely be my Dad's friend or coach or both" It's a goofy cliffhanger of course.

Let's go to my second assumption. The dinner of Monroes

We know that Santiago was back after the track event and the call of Gabi. Then we have the dinner of Monroes and saying that Adrianna husband will be late and I thought that time it was Santiago because we know the monroes are eating at Emily restaurant and we know that Emily and santiago has history so he needs to deny the dinner to not cause conflict so it might be just a coincidence.

But yeah it doesn't make any sense that Adrianna and Santiago we're together then at the same time Santiago and Gabi we're fiancé at the current time. Then Adrianna and Gabi we're working in one school.

And it's probably for the best that Gabi and Santiago we're fiancé and Adrianna and Santiago we're not together because it's a good plot for Gabi's route I want the fight between the Mc and Santiago.
 
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I don't think it's incest but if it is categorized as incest in patreon well it is what it is.

"unless they were already divorced"
Unless Gabi ADOPTED MC there is no incest. At all. Even if she married his father, it doesn't matter.

Hell, even step-sibling sex is not incest if there was no adoption involved by the new parents. Imagine you're 18 and your father marries a woman with a really hot adult daughter. You can fuck her or even marry her, it's legal because since you're adult there was no adoption involved. Hell, you don't even have to be adult - after all what would be the point of adopting a 16 year old when you marry his/her mother or father? It's just a needless complication, plus if you divorce the parent you have even more problems (it's little known that more times you marry the less chances you have of lasting - 50% of first marriage ends in divorce, of second marriage 67% and of third marriage 73%). They are practically almost an adult, they're not a child and don't need such supervision and you don't need the legal powers of adoption to take care of them and will be out of the house in 2 years. So, even two un-adopted not-yet-18 step-siblings should legally be allowed to have a relationship.

That doesn't mean you won't get flak from people around you, but legally it's not an issue.
 

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Unless Gabi ADOPTED MC there is no incest. At all. Even if she married his father, it doesn't matter.

Hell, even step-sibling sex is not incest if there was no adoption involved by the new parents. Imagine you're 18 and your father marries a woman with a really hot adult daughter. You can fuck her or even marry her, it's legal because since you're adult there was no adoption involved. Hell, you don't even have to be adult - after all what would be the point of adopting a 16 year old? They are practically almost an adult, they're not a child and don't need such supervision and you don't need the legal powers of adoption to take care of them and will be out of the house in 2 years. So, even two un-adopted not-yet-18 step-siblings should legally be allowed to have a relationship.

That doesn't mean you won't get flak from people around you, but legally it's not an issue.
Yeah that's what am I saying that there is no incest between Gabi and Mc.
 

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Yeah that's what am I saying that there is no incest between Gabi and Mc.
Yeah, sorry for going off-tangent like that. Just recently I ran into a story that was tagged as romance, that then revealed the two were now step-siblings and went into all this bullshit "but we can't be together cause our parents got married, even though we're both like 25 years old and neither got adopted, CUZ IT'S INCEST!" and was still feeling a bit of frustration over that stupid plot and the author. fml.
 

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Yep, same here, it's been a while but I've come to realize how important and interesting Gabby's route will get in the future. And I wanna know how she'll meet Emily, or when they get to encounter at college, that would be interesting.
the game won't go into college times, will finish probably when high school is over or even before. The only reason MC has to potentially go to the place is visiting Erynn, Lexi or Iris.
 
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the game won't go into college times, will finish probably when high school is over or even before. The only reason MC has to potentially go to the place is visiting Erynn, Lexi or Iris.
Maybe the kids(meaning HS seniors) will have to enter their college applications, and go on a tour to see the college campus, specially those that are being recruited.
One way to get the HS girls interacting with the ones in college.

New idea for a scene free of charge lol.

What PeopleCallMeSmile was asking, getting Gabi and Emily talking to each other is harder.... maybe Emily can be called to school for whatever reason, but does Gabi even know about her history with Santiago?
Even then what they have to talk about?

I bet if Gabi were to meet Emily right now, Santiago wouldn't be her main worry lol.
She'd only say that the MC is a "great" student and gives her no problems, no need to elaborate further :LOL:

At some point chickens are gonna come home to roost for Santiago, let's see what will trigger it... and do we get the option of covering for dear old dad vs burning him?
 
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