VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Bombmaster]

I am not sure but the way I see it MC is meant to be a manwhore anyway for all things to become "intertwined" for max drama. The player agency comes to a point whether MC is a chaotic good womanizer or a straight up douche. Yes you can play solo LI for the sake of it but what is the point of the AVN then? I look at MC as a young stud in a candy store who has a way with women but too young to decide on which is his favorite so he lets time decide. That supposedly good guy inner conscience talks seldomly to MC when he is mingling with all those women anyway, so what is the reason for that exception I ask myself. Even then if I were to scrap the whole plot and make a game centered around love triangle of MC, Layla and Elena, this plot development is kind of weak. The problem arises from the fact that we need to get sexually involved with Layla to get to Elena so the noble MC argument is not compelling. Branching had to happen way before if that was the case, so right now we branch out but miss out on all the drama if Elena route is over after we sleep with Layla. So that plot design was inconsistent with all 11 episodes I mean that's why I am disappointed by it.

Additionally my understanding is that Layla is highly selective in terms of who she has a relationship with, that may be the result of her mother has a direct hold on her many aspects of life. She is not prude but she doesn't (can't) have sex just for the sake of it but it doesn't mean she will marry her first partner, you know what I'm saying. So it is best that she does that with MC, a male she adores and trusts and MC is like I can't take your virginity cuz I might not "only" love you. Dude she didn't ask for any commitments haha. Not sleeping with her at that point would do her more harm and damage her self-confidence and view against men.

I'm with you till about doing just for the sake of Mc good guy.

This story makes obvious that most LI have some baggage or previous relationship.

Layla is fulfilling the route for romantic bros endgame crashing and burning with situations going foward.

Gives me a very bad taste takin Layla V just because our bland boring Mc is the only male reasonably sane in the roster presented.

Why cant Zach be a rival best friend going to date Layla in some situation if you dump her?
Cuz the writing made him a annoying brat.

 

[Perished]

I'm with you till about doing just for the sake of Mc good guy.

This story makes obvious that most LI have some baggage or previous relationship.

Layla is fulfilling the route for romantic bros endgame crashing and burning with situations going foward.

Gives me a very bad taste takin Layla V just because our bland boring Mc is the only male reasonably sane in the roster presented.

Why cant Zach be a rival best friend going to date Layla in some situation if you dump her?
Cuz the writing made him a annoying brat.

I'm in for more drama, that's why I like this AVN, it has been full of twists and ups and downs. But dev has chosen minimal NTR route so your recommendation is not happening. My critique is not about what should have been done differently but what is not consistent with previous 11 chapters. It was made clear that MC is the primary male in both Layla and Elena's life and that is OK but Nyx had to build more drama before reaching that climax imo. That trio dynamic shattered prematurely.

 

[Bombmaster]

I'm in for more drama, that's why I like this AVN, it has been full of twists and ups and downs. But dev has chosen minimal NTR route so your recommendation is not happening. My critique is not about what should have been done differently but what is not consistent with previous 11 chapters. It was made clear that MC is the primary male in both Layla and Elena's life and that is OK but Nyx had to build more drama before reaching that climax imo. That trio dynamic shattered prematurely.

Damn this ntr debate again.

Let me say this, if you turn a LI down and she hook up is just a very organic situation. NOT ntr. I hate that a love interest moving foward and having agency is being knitted as Ntr.

Just write in a very direct and honest way.
What is more natural than a ditched Layla try to find a way to hurt Mc or self destruct doing something like.
Dating Zach

Sure he is a trash option. But this is because the Nyx made him like this.

 

[Perished]

Damn this ntr debate again.

Let me say this, if you turn a LI down and she hook up is just a very organic situation. NOT ntr. I hate that a love interest moving foward and having agency is being knitted as Ntr.

Just write in a very direct and honest way.
What is more natural than a ditched Layla way try to find a way to hurt Mc or self destruct doing something like.
Dating Zach

Sure he is a trash option. But this is because the Nyx made him like this.

Dude I am not against your opinion, hell yes it would make a better AVN and I don't like that fact that every male interacting with MC's sphere of sexual influence would be considered NTR but it is what it is in adult/porn gaming scene. I use it as a figure of speech as what most denote this concept to be and devs are not keen on changing their plot design after like 5 years so, I evaluate the latest episode in accordance to the previous ones and feels weird regardless.

 

[Bombmaster]

Dude I am not against your opinion, hell yes it would make a better AVN and I don't like that fact that every male interacting with MC's sphere of sexual influence would be considered NTR but it is what it is in adult/porn gaming scene. I use it as a figure of speech as what most denote this concept to be and devs are not keen on changing their plot design after like 5 years so, I evaluate the latest episode in accordance to the previous ones and feels weird regardless.

You are correct, maybe is the medium catering to much into a trope. Or the inability, lack of experience from the writer.

Imagine how interesting my suggestion could be.
A Revengeful Lay hook with Zach strings him along, keep him on a strong leash.
Keeping him close just to create drama.

No sex for him. Because is a drama situation using him as a tool.

 

[Perished]

You are correct, maybe is the medium catering to much into a trope. Or the inability, lack of experience from the writer.

Imagine how interesting my suggestion could be.
A Revengeful Lay hook with Zach strings him along, keep him on a strong leash.
Keeping him close just to create drama.

No sex for him. Because is a drama situation using him as a tool.

Yes I agree. It would be dope, may feel strange at first but it would be a part of character development which felt lacking for the last couple of episodes. That's why I'm learning Blender

 

[Dessolos]

I am not sure but the way I see it MC is meant to be a manwhore anyway for all things to become "intertwined" for max drama. The player agency comes to a point whether MC is a chaotic good womanizer or a straight up douche. Yes you can play solo LI for the sake of it but what is the point of the AVN then? I look at MC as a young stud in a candy store who has a way with women but too young to decide on which is his favorite so he lets time decide. That supposedly good guy inner conscience talks seldomly to MC when he is mingling with all those women anyway, so what is the reason for that exception I ask myself. Even then if I were to scrap the whole plot and make a game centered around love triangle of MC, Layla and Elena, this plot development is kind of weak. The problem arises from the fact that we need to get sexually involved with Layla to get to Elena so the noble MC argument is not compelling. Branching had to happen way before if that was the case, so right now we branch out but miss out on all the drama if Elena route is over after we sleep with Layla. So that plot design was inconsistent with all 11 episodes I mean that's why I am disappointed by it.

Additionally my understanding is that Layla is highly selective in terms of who she has a relationship with, that may be the result of her mother having a direct hold on her many aspects of life. She is not prude but she doesn't (can't) have sex just for the sake of it but it doesn't mean she will marry her first partner, you know what I'm saying. So it is best that she does that with MC, a male she adores and trusts and MC is like I can't take your virginity cuz I might not "only" love you. Dude she didn't ask for any commitments haha. Not sleeping with her at that point would do her more harm and damage her self-confidence and view against men.

All that ramble may come from as I was in a similar situation as MC a couple of years back, I had become close friends with my flirt's bff and somehow thought we were a good match from time to time and had sexual thoughts but never acted upon them. So I didn't dump my flirt just for the whim of another possible romance. So that may be why I find this unsatisfying and unrealistic.

after reading your second reply i think a big part of my opinion being so different is the way I play since I always go single / solo LI in these games unless I literally get into too deep before I can make a proper decision while learning about the said LI or I just want to see things blow up in the MC"s face. But that style of play is rare for me only maybe 5 or less AVN"s ive played like that.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Damn this ntr debate again.

Let me say this, if you turn a LI down and she hook up is just a very organic situation. NOT ntr. I hate that a love interest moving foward and having agency is being knitted as Ntr.

Just write in a very direct and honest way.
What is more natural than a ditched Layla try to find a way to hurt Mc or self destruct doing something like.

This is what I'm getting at in why the current interactions feel "weird". Because organically they'd lead to something, but we know they won't, so it's immersion breaking.

Trying to tell love and sex stories without any potential partner ever having any involvement with anyone else would be like trying to tell a war story where no one on your side ever dies. You could do it, but after awhile it would start to get extremely boring and predictable, and severely limit how creative the tale could be.

The analogous war story to the Intertwined dialogues I've spoke about would be "Well, it's not looking good, your squad leader had to lead a frontal assault on a heavily defended position" while you know ahead of time no one dies, so there's zero tension and drama in them mentioning that.

 

[raider_manhc]

Question, in The current version can you have a relationship with elena? Or is it just The smal flirting?

 

[Perished]

Question, in The current version can you have a relationship with elena? Or is it just The smal flirting?

you mingle but no official relationship, not even a planned one on one date yet.

 

[Dessolos]

Question, in The current version can you have a relationship with elena? Or is it just The smal flirting?

I'm going to do my best to be vague Not yet but you can follow her path in this update and see her topless in the pool. But following her path the MC makes a decision that may have consequences to building a relationship with her or not we wont know till we get some updates. But some people speculate it will lead to making your relationship worst as it would make the most sense.

 

[raider_manhc]

I'm going to do my best to be vague Not yet but you can follow her path in this update and see her topless in the pool. But following her path the MC makes a decision that may have consequences to building a relationship with her or not we wont know till we get some updates. But some people speculate it will lead to making your relationship worst as it would make the most sense.

Topless in pool? You mean at training camp? When you jump in pool with her?

 

[CurtimusPrime92]

is this game a Soft-Harem (like the Something To Write About franchise where you can nail every LI before making a final choice) or is it going to be more reallistic and cause WW3 and end up with MC being forever alone for being a man-slut?

 

[Dessolos]

Topless in pool? You mean at training camp? When you jump in pool with her?

no at Layla's house you have to be on her and Elena's path I believe for the topless scene

 

[SerHawkes]

is this game a Soft-Harem (like the Something To Write About franchise where you can nail every LI before making a final choice) or is it going to be more reallistic and cause WW3 and end up with MC being forever alone for being a man-slut?

The 'Soft' Harem is really up for debate. Could we get atleast a possible throuple with Layla-Elena or Val / Alexis-Erynn or Iris? Unknown, given the constant troll job by Nyx it would be up to her and whether she listens to her bitchy cuck mods.

In practice, it could work. Layla-Elena have solid chemisty and I can see Layla being okay with Elena and sharing the MC potentially. With Layla-Val though, it would take some time to build up some chemistry there between the two but it could happen.

Flip side: Alexis-Erynn? Long road ahead and the two of them would have to spend time together with us spending equal time with them to wittle down their jealousy but it's doable. Alexis-Iris? Iris would be the key, help wittle down Alexis's reservations, dote on both, make suggestions in well placed moments.

 

[Dessolos]

is this game a Soft-Harem (like the Something To Write About franchise where you can nail every LI before making a final choice) or is it going to be more reallistic and cause WW3 and end up with MC being forever alone for being a man-slut?

I would say something in the middle as it can blow up in your face early on but I know with 2 of the LI that find out and dump you it's avoidable even if you are cheating by just picking a different option and not hanging out with them during one part of the game. I'm sure they will find out later tho.

 

[MrBubu]

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[MrD812]

Speaking of realism and behaviors, this is certainly one of them. We all do it...talk about other men and women like this...even when we are in a relationship. But there is a lot to what you are saying about world-expanding. Nyx has talked about it in Discord. And it is a constant battle with how much to expand but balance people getting upset about it approaching the NTR realm.

When it comes to real life, I cannot stand this game that people play with each other. Flirting with someone else when the one you really want is right there. Why play with jealousy when you can just be an adult and tell them how you feel? Fucking blows my mind that grown adults still play this game. So, it is obviously naturally occurring...and highly annoying.

BTW, Erynn is just doing what models do. They take photos in and out of all types of clothing. They go to events as hired arm candy. And she hates it.

Difficult as it may be or not for some of us to FULLY comprehend.
Not 'every one' acts like that, nor has the desire to do so.
It doesn't happen with all.

Seriously being into some one 'or ones'(yes, Multi relationships exist legitimately).
Many refer to it as "truly loving", it's not incorrect.
Simply put, it's genuine natural result.

Validity-amount of one's care for and about.
Actions speak louder in the measure of being.
"just how much do You _ _ _ _?" <--a question often asked.

 

[Porthas]

At times it feels like I am one of the few who all my VN without mods nothing against them is it really that hard to multiple saves

Why would it matter to you what someone else is doing in their single player game?

 

[Matt2012021]

never said it matter it was just a simple statement and question nothing more