UncleFappy

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Thinking about it, if there's any world state where Zach just absolutely refuses to turn back, it would be the one where MC hooks up with Val.

With the other girls Zach can still come to his senses as "they never reciprocated my advances". With Val, from his perspective, she was into him, but just shy of expressing it. We've seen him raise eyebrows at the flirting MC and Val do, even saw how handsy they were in ep14 if you have MC chasing Val.

I can see Zach taking that just the ultimate betrayal, MC did actually swoop in, push his girl away from Zach and take her for himself, Ethan was right about MC all along. And he just digs in and refuses to budge.

Its the one girl that MC shouldn't go after if we want Zach to stay his friend. Dunno why we would want that, but still.
 

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Because he's clueless and delusional. He mistakes friendly behavior for flirty and sees what he wants to see.
Yeah, he's a moron, but that delusional misunderstanding is the point.

The other girls rebuff him constantly, so you can still mentally beat him down to sanity. Val didn't and played nice, so he refuses to accept reality.
 

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Yeah, he's a moron, but that delusional misunderstanding is the point.

The other girls rebuff him constantly, so you can still mentally beat him down to sanity. Val didn't and played nice, so he refuses to accept reality.
I'm sure that even Val wishes that she had made her feelings or lack of feelings for Zach clearer. She was simply being nice and friendly with someone who was nice to her at school, introducing her to people etc.
Layla rebuffed him constantly but that didn't stop him from still trying. Most of us can pick up on social cues or signals if someone is interested in us romantically or not. He seems to lack this basic function.
 

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Most of us can pick up on social cues or signals if someone is interested in us romantically or not. He seems to lack this.
Imagine if the resolution of the Zach storyline wasn't any big emotional confrontation and talk-no-jutsu. Its just him getting diagnosed with autism or something(one of those "can't read social cues" conditions), and he starts taking his meds. :unsure:
 
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what happend between val and ethan?
havent played yet the new update
put it in a spoiler , thanks
 

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Could even result in a points loss with her if the player refuses to even speak with Zach.
Ok, I just checked some of my saves, and the most points Zach has are :4 (how can he have that many? I must have messed something up) Most routes have 0-2 points... So I'm definitely sacrificing these Zach points, just to get this idiot guy out of my life...
 

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Ok, I just checked some of my saves, and the most points Zach has are :4 (how can he have that many? I must have messed something up) Most routes have 0-2 points... So I'm definitely sacrificing these Zach points, just to get this idiot guy out of my life...
like i stated way way back
forced best-bro crap - should not even in there
everytime the same bullshit : forcing the mc to things he not want , causing chaos and/or backstabs
a very good example you can see now at beyond constraints
 
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Ok, I just checked some of my saves, and the most points Zach has are :4 (how can he have that many? I must have messed something up) Most routes have 0-2 points... So I'm definitely sacrificing these Zach points, just to get this idiot guy out of my life...
I tell on him and fuck him over every chance I get, since I can't stand him. Gabi is like "Do you know who's car that.." and I'm like "It's Zach's" before she can even get the words out. Fuck him.
 

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You're all wrong, Val is Ethan's agent. They work together because 5 years ago she had a crush on the MC (but she had a ponytail, glasses and braces and he only saw Erynn). That's why she sabotages the relationship with Lexi
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THAT would be a twist for sure
but you missed to point out she's gone awol on ethan for the mc
 

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You're all wrong, Val is Ethan's agent. They work together because 5 years ago she had a crush on the MC (but she had a ponytail, glasses and braces and he only saw Erynn). That's why she sabotages the relationship with Lexi
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Brings more sanity to reading the drama here so much that.
Next Episode, MC's alcohol tries kicking it's liver habit :WutFace:

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