VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Nurikabe]

Nyx just seems to love to tease with pseudo-NTR-ish stuff. Not sure if it's her just trying to broaden the world so that everyone isn't about the MC, but between the girls all findng some teacher hot, Erynn going off about John (who is likely her dad) being hot, Iris grabbing Emily's ass, Erynn's escort services and naked modeling, and pretty much everything with Val... it's definitely kind of odd.

Speaking of realism and behaviors, this is certainly one of them. We all do it...talk about other men and women like this...even when we are in a relationship. But there is a lot to what you are saying about world-expanding. Nyx has talked about it in Discord. And it is a constant battle with how much to expand but balance people getting upset about it approaching the NTR realm.

When it comes to real life, I cannot stand this game that people play with each other. Flirting with someone else when the one you really want is right there. Why play with jealousy when you can just be an adult and tell them how you feel? Fucking blows my mind that grown adults still play this game. So, it is obviously naturally occurring...and highly annoying.

BTW, Erynn is just doing what models do. They take photos in and out of all types of clothing. They go to events as hired arm candy. And she hates it.

 

[Darkchz]

Someone played Val's route, man I thought the part where you actually start hanging out with her was really weird, and the part where she's at the gym is really weird, anyone who played that route, what did you think of that part?

 

[Nurikabe]

Someone played Val's route, man I thought the part where you actually start hanging out with her was really weird, and the part where she's at the gym is really weird, anyone who played that route, what did you think of that part?

Hey, I am not a Val expert. But I loved it. The photobooth and her talking with her mom. Loved that whole thing. What made you feel weird about hanging with her?

 

[Darkchz]

Hey, I am not a Val expert. But I loved it. The photobooth and her talking with her mom. Loved that whole thing. What made you feel weird about hanging with her?

ou must not have played the update, the story continues after that in this new chapter that came out, play it and let me know what you think

 

[XKL27]

Speaking of realism and behaviors, this is certainly one of them. We all do it...talk about other men and women like this...even when we are in a relationship. But there is a lot to what you are saying about world-expanding. Nyx has talked about it in Discord. And it is a constant battle with how much to expand but balance people getting upset about it approaching the NTR realm.

When it comes to real life, I cannot stand this game that people play with each other. Flirting with someone else when the one you really want is right there. Why play with jealousy when you can just be an adult and tell them how you feel? Fucking blows my mind that grown adults still play this game. So, it is obviously naturally occurring...and highly annoying.

BTW, Erynn is just doing what models do. They take photos in and out of all types of clothing. They go to events as hired arm candy. And she hates it.

Completely agree. There's a distinction between reality and game, and to some extent (depending on the kinks/fetishes in the game, of course), I think a lot of adult games tend to be more about ego stroking. That can make sitting there listening to your three LIs talking about how hot someone else is (or Val seemingly being into Darryl even though she's also seemingly into you) frustrating.

I do think that's why people like tags to be clearly communicated. I don't have a problem with NTR in games as long as I know it's coming (and for the record, this hasn't been one at all... imo, it just veers wildly between every LI finding you attractive and then some of them opting instead to play the game as you put it or being blackmailed into nebulous off-screen interactions), but when people feel blindsided, it can get nasty.

Someone played Val's route, man I thought the part where you actually start hanging out with her was really weird, and the part where she's at the gym is really weird, anyone who played that route, what did you think of that part?

Definitely got a new perspective on her as a character from the gym/beach scenes. Feels a lot less authentic than how she came across at training camp.

 

[valbitterb]

 

[KoGa3]

Nyx should totally do a cameo with him

The Monroes...

 

[Nurikabe]

The Monroes...

Well, we know he has a huge cock and can produce some amazingly gorgeous offspring!

Fuck this 'like' limit shit. God dammit!

 

[apn6527]

Adriana ftw

 

[Bombmaster]

This situation with Elena behind Layla route, is the same feeling no matter how much of a bro to Zach you act, ends in betrayal for plot continuity.

 

[cxx]

zach can go to *censored*.

 

[Bombmaster]

zach can go to *censored*.

I mean the hate is because the writing made him this way. a shit villain tho.

Let me be invested before losing.
Show me the way to keep my friend then make it hard.

 

[Perished]

This situation with Elena behind Layla route, is the same feeling no matter how much of a bro to Zach you act, ends in betrayal for plot continuity.

Yes but I mean the way Nyx deals with the drama was so anticlimactic, it was just sad and out of character (it is so bland that MC is daydreaming Elena for a day and thinks he gotta keep his integrity?!). Just fuck Layla and deal with it later no big deal man, it is not like Layla is so prude and losing her virginity is a big deal. The main appeal of this game for me is that we will be constantly having Melissa and Emily pool moment misunderstandings and things will be so fucked that it will be dramatic to see them become unfucked. That was an easy way out, I am just disappointed.

 

[Bombmaster]

Yes but I mean the way Nyx deals with the drama was so anticlimactic, it was just sad and out of character (it is so bland that MC is daydreaming Elena for a day and thinks he gotta keep his integrity?!). Just fuck Layla and deal with it later no big deal man, it is not like Layla is so prude and losing her virginity is a big deal. The main appeal of this game for me is that we will be constantly having Melissa and Emily pool moment misunderstandings and things will be so fucked that it will be dramatic to see them become unfucked. That was an easy way out, I am just disappointed.

Bro Nyx is playing in another frequency.
Just like this.

Look,but don't touch
Touch, but don't taste
Taste, but don't swallow

 

[Dessolos]

Yes but I mean the way Nyx deals with the drama was so anticlimactic, it was just sad and out of character (it is so bland that MC is daydreaming Elena for a day and thinks he gotta keep his integrity?!). Just fuck Layla and deal with it later no big deal man, it is not like Layla is so prude and losing her virginity is a big deal. The main appeal of this game for me is that we will be constantly having Melissa and Emily pool moment misunderstandings and things will be so fucked that it will be dramatic to see them become unfucked. That was an easy way out, I am just disappointed.

While I agree seemed the MC's feeling Elena start to show up really fast and probably make more sense to have sex with Layla and deal with it later once he figures things out as he would probably be confused or uncertain at that point.

I do like the fact that you get the option to turn down Layla because I don't think the MC is ever really an asshole on purpose unless you are playing a route that involves cheating on purpose. So to me this option feels like something the MC would do as well. Both options make sense to me. The only part to me that can make this option not make that much sense is how fast it seems his feeling started to show with Elena.

Also I do think Layla would think losing her virginity is a little bit of a big deal even if she isnt a prude. Which is another reason I actually like the option to turn her down even if it makes her cry. As to me it shows the MC has some balls even if he lead her on for to long if you going that route. But it makes her crying scene mean that much more to me.

Now this is all just all my opinion just felt like sharing mine and I respect yours hell yours probably does make alot more sense than mine since I always saw Layla as nothing more than a friend for the MC and only played her path to see the content.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Speaking of realism and behaviors, this is certainly one of them. We all do it...talk about other men and women like this...even when we are in a relationship. But there is a lot to what you are saying about world-expanding. Nyx has talked about it in Discord. And it is a constant battle with how much to expand but balance people getting upset about it approaching the NTR realm.

I'm 100% in favor of world-expanding and showing different aspects of characters; however to me, there is no balance to be had here. I mean in a vacuum there is, but I already know ahead of time the game will never actually cross a certain line, so those scenes/storylines kinda fall on deaf ears.

In other words, once a game explicitly draws the boundaries as "There will never be a sex scene between npcs", it's impossible to try and achieve any kind of believeable story past that in a romantic context; it's just all aboard the harem express and have fun with the fantasy.....(I'm not saying that's a bad thing! Depends on my mood for what I play, but you can't have your cake and eat it too)

So that's why I'm saying these scenes feel weird. They're very obviously leading to a setup I know won't happen. If Nyx really wants to tell a story she needs to cast away the harem chains.

Nyx just seems to love to tease with pseudo-NTR-ish stuff. Not sure if it's her just trying to broaden the world so that everyone isn't about the MC, but between the girls all findng some teacher hot, Erynn going off about John (who is likely her dad) being hot, Iris grabbing Emily's ass, Erynn's escort services and naked modeling, and pretty much everything with Val... it's definitely kind of odd.

Exactly - these examples are exactly what I mean. Seems like she (nyx) just loves to troll people.

Another case - myself I hate incest and would have no problem if it never appeared again, but based on dialogue choices she wants the player to think there's some kind of non-platonic relationship brewing with the mom; yet simultaneously declaring this will never be a thing. I can see how players who want these relationships to materialize would feel let down or baited.


wow I need to not write posts at 6 am after just waking up, half of this isn't readable at all lol

 

[Perished]

While I agree seemed the MC's feeling Elena start to show up really fast and probably make more sense to have sex with Layla and deal with it later once he figures things out as he would probably be confused or uncertain at that point.

I do like the fact that you get the option to turn down Layla because I don't think the MC is ever really an asshole on purpose unless you are playing a route that involves cheating on purpose. So to me this option feels like something the MC would do as well. Both options make sense to me. The only part to me that can make this option not make that much sense is how fast it seems his feeling started to show with Elena.

Also I do think Layla would think losing her virginity is a little bit of a big deal even if she isnt a prude. Which is another reason I actually like the option to turn her down even if it makes her cry. As to me it shows the MC has some balls even if he lead her on for to long if you going that route. But it makes her crying scene mean that much more to me.

Now this is all just all my opinion just felt like sharing mine and I respect yours hell yours probably does make alot more sense than mine since I always saw Layla as nothing more than a friend for the MC and only played her path to see the content.

I am not sure but the way I see it MC is meant to be a manwhore anyway for all things to become "intertwined" for max drama. The player agency comes to a point whether MC is a chaotic good womanizer or a straight up douche. Yes you can play solo LI for the sake of it but what is the point of the AVN then? I look at MC as a young stud in a candy store who has a way with women but too young to decide on which is his favorite so he lets time decide. That supposedly good guy inner conscience talks seldomly to MC when he is mingling with all those women anyway, so what is the reason for that exception I ask myself. Even then if I were to scrap the whole plot and make a game centered around love triangle of MC, Layla and Elena, this plot development is kind of weak. The problem arises from the fact that we need to get sexually involved with Layla to get to Elena so the noble MC argument is not compelling. Branching had to happen way before if that was the case, so right now we branch out but miss out on all the drama if Elena route is over after we sleep with Layla. So that plot design was inconsistent with all 11 episodes I mean that's why I am disappointed by it.

Additionally my understanding is that Layla is highly selective in terms of who she has a relationship with, that may be the result of her mother having a direct hold on her many aspects of life. She is not prude but she doesn't (can't) have sex just for the sake of it but it doesn't mean she will marry her first partner, you know what I'm saying. So it is best that she does that with MC, a male she adores and trusts and MC is like I can't take your virginity cuz I might not "only" love you. Dude she didn't ask for any commitments haha. Not sleeping with her at that point would do her more harm and damage her self-confidence and view against men.

All that ramble may come from as I was in a similar situation as MC a couple of years back, I had become close friends with my flirt's bff and somehow thought we were a good match from time to time and had sexual thoughts but never acted upon them. So I didn't dump my flirt just for the whim of another possible romance. So that may be why I find this unsatisfying and unrealistic.

 

[Bombmaster]

I am not sure but the way I see it MC is meant to be a manwhore anyway for all things to become "intertwined" for max drama. The player agency comes to a point whether MC is a chaotic good womanizer or a straight up douche. Yes you can play solo LI for the sake of it but what is the point of the AVN then? I look at MC as a young stud in a candy store who has a way with women but too young to decide on which is his favorite so he lets time decide. That supposedly good guy inner conscience talks seldomly to MC when he is mingling with all those women anyway, so what is the reason for that exception I ask myself. Even then if I were to scrap the whole plot and make a game centered around love triangle of MC, Layla and Elena, this plot development is kind of weak. The problem arises from the fact that we need to get sexually involved with Layla to get to Elena so the noble MC argument is not compelling. Branching had to happen way before if that was the case, so right now we branch out but miss out on all the drama if Elena route is over after we sleep with Layla. So that plot design was inconsistent with all 11 episodes I mean that's why I am disappointed by it.

Additionally my understanding is that Layla is highly selective in terms of who she has a relationship with, that may be the result of her mother has a direct hold on her many aspects of life. She is not prude but she doesn't (can't) have sex just for the sake of it but it doesn't mean she will marry her first partner, you know what I'm saying. So it is best that she does that with MC, a male she adores and trusts and MC is like I can't take your virginity cuz I might not "only" love you. Dude she didn't ask for any commitments haha. Not sleeping with her at that point would do her more harm and damage her self-confidence and view against men.

I'm with you till about doing just for the sake of Mc good guy.

This story makes obvious that most LI have some baggage or previous relationship.

Layla is fulfilling the route for romantic bros endgame crashing and burning with situations going foward.

Gives me a very bad taste takin Layla V just because our bland boring Mc is the only male reasonably sane in the roster presented.

Why cant Zach be a rival best friend going to date Layla in some situation if you dump her?
Cuz the writing made him a annoying brat.

 

[Perished]

I'm with you till about doing just for the sake of Mc good guy.

This story makes obvious that most LI have some baggage or previous relationship.

Layla is fulfilling the route for romantic bros endgame crashing and burning with situations going foward.

Gives me a very bad taste takin Layla V just because our bland boring Mc is the only male reasonably sane in the roster presented.

Why cant Zach be a rival best friend going to date Layla in some situation if you dump her?
Cuz the writing made him a annoying brat.

I'm in for more drama, that's why I like this AVN, it has been full of twists and ups and downs. But dev has chosen minimal NTR route so your recommendation is not happening. My critique is not about what should have been done differently but what is not consistent with previous 11 chapters. It was made clear that MC is the primary male in both Layla and Elena's life and that is OK but Nyx had to build more drama before reaching that climax imo. That trio dynamic shattered prematurely.

 

[Bombmaster]

I'm in for more drama, that's why I like this AVN, it has been full of twists and ups and downs. But dev has chosen minimal NTR route so your recommendation is not happening. My critique is not about what should have been done differently but what is not consistent with previous 11 chapters. It was made clear that MC is the primary male in both Layla and Elena's life and that is OK but Nyx had to build more drama before reaching that climax imo. That trio dynamic shattered prematurely.

Damn this ntr debate again.

Let me say this, if you turn a LI down and she hook up is just a very organic situation. NOT ntr. I hate that a love interest moving foward and having agency is being knitted as Ntr.

Just write in a very direct and honest way.
What is more natural than a ditched Layla try to find a way to hurt Mc or self destruct doing something like.
Dating Zach

Sure he is a trash option. But this is because the Nyx made him like this.