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Naivety is being fooled by Ethan multiple times.

Part of maturity is understanding when you're in over your head and need help.
Something that is far too common in the real world, is being too close to the situation to see what's *actually* going on around them at the time. When they were younger, in the flashbacks, she seemed to be trying to "fix" Ethan and address an obvious deficiency. Was it the right call? In hindsight clearly not, and failed all the previous times it's implied that she's tried. But in the moment? It's hard to speculate what her thought process was, but clearly it helped contribute to a number of the problems that happened to her later.

Us, as the players, are sitting back and watching how their past decisions shaped the characters future. It's unfortunately relatable, because it's similar to how people in the real world can overlook obvious red flags, warnings, and blatantly obvious issues, with someone because they are too closely involved and/or emotionally invested. Having been there a number of times, it's heartbreaking to watch it happen because it's so obvious to me, as the observer, but the person involved just can't, or refuses, to see it.

I think this game has done a pretty good job at taking relatable problems people can get into and translating it into a game world. I sit back and do feel bad for Erynn and that she didn't see the obvious problems brewing and let them fester and grow into what she's going through now. But the only reason I can say that is because I can personally relate to having gone through it in the real world.
 

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Something that is far too common in the real world, is being too close to the situation to see what's *actually* going on around them at the time. When they were younger, in the flashbacks, she seemed to be trying to "fix" Ethan and address an obvious deficiency. Was it the right call? In hindsight clearly not, and failed all the previous times it's implied that she's tried. But in the moment? It's hard to speculate what her thought process was, but clearly it helped contribute to a number of the problems that happened to her later.

Us, as the players, are sitting back and watching how their past decisions shaped the characters future. It's unfortunately relatable, because it's similar to how people in the real world can overlook obvious red flags, warnings, and blatantly obvious issues, with someone because they are too closely involved and/or emotionally invested. Having been there a number of times, it's heartbreaking to watch it happen because it's so obvious to me, as the observer, but the person involved just can't, or refuses, to see it.

I think this game has done a pretty good job at taking relatable problems people can get into and translating it into a game world. I sit back and do feel bad for Erynn and that she didn't see the obvious problems brewing and let them fester and grow into what she's going through now. But the only reason I can say that is because I can personally relate to having gone through it in the real world.
Exactly. Sometimes when you are caught in something you can get lost in it, see no way out. See all of the road blocks but none of the exits. It often takes someone to help you see a way out, if you're brave enough to let them. The MC is that for Erynn.
 
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Exactly. Sometimes when you are caught in something you can get lost in it, see no way out. See all of the road blocks but none of the exits. It often takes someone to help you see a way out, if you're brave enough to let them. The MC is that for Erynn.
Not just that sometimes you are too scared to go to the exit too even when you know you should for one reason or another. So sometimes you just need to get caught to be forced into that exit or someone push you towards it.
 
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Me even less, but if it counts...

Lexi is the ONLY LI, and I mean in all the VNs I played so far, I would actually love to meet/date in rl.
Sure as everyone I love my (many) kinks and such, those are good to let miss Right (hand) have her fun, but...

There's just something in Lexi that triggers memories of actual relationships, good ones at that, who doesn't like going to gigs with their partner, crack jokes at every other chance and have good wholesome sex?

So yes no idea where I can buy it, but give me a ticket/badge for Lexi's team! :ROFLMAO:
I feel that way about sage in being a dik
 
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same and few handful of others. tbh even Erynn would fall under that for me I've had fantasies where she was my neighbor but without all the Ethan Bullshit lol. As without the Ethan stuff she has the perfect Girl next door feel to it for me.
Erynn is my fav in the game
I also really like Jackie in u4ia and steph in lof
 
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Erynn is my fav in the game
I also really like Jackie in u4ia and steph in lof
Erynn is actually my #1 favorite LI on my AVN LI ranking. Which is funny cause there are others that are better characters than her for me but they don't bring a big ass smile to my face whenever I see them on the screen , like Erynn. Honestly even a few others have that effect to me in this game just not as much as Erynn. That's why I love this game so much even if I dislike the Ethan stuff Nyx has a way with creating scenes and characters that just make me smile.
 
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Erynn is actually my #1 favorite LI on my AVN LI ranking. Which is funny cause there are others that are better characters than her for me but they don't bring a big ass smile to my face whenever I see them on the screen , like Erynn. Honestly even a few others have that effect to me in this game just not as much as Erynn. That's why I love this game so much even if I dislike the Ethan stuff Nyx has a way with creating scenes and characters that just make me smile.
What makes a great character in an avn when a girl is a great friend and supporter when off path. And you fell sad not playing their path
 
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There are alot of these girls id date irl. To keep it to this game, Alexis, Elena and Erryn here. Perhaps my tastes arent as discerning as others
If we keep in this game id go with Erynn , Alexis and Val. id consider Cara too if there was no long distance. Honestly Cara would be my #1 choice if this was real life As I don't think id have a shot with Erynn or Alexis. Cara I might. Val maybe a 25% chance she is friendly enough and seems to get along easy with everyone but not being a Athletic would make it hard to try anything
 

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Something that is far too common in the real world, is being too close to the situation to see what's *actually* going on around them at the time. When they were younger, in the flashbacks, she seemed to be trying to "fix" Ethan and address an obvious deficiency. Was it the right call? In hindsight clearly not, and failed all the previous times it's implied that she's tried. But in the moment? It's hard to speculate what her thought process was, but clearly it helped contribute to a number of the problems that happened to her later.

Us, as the players, are sitting back and watching how their past decisions shaped the characters future. It's unfortunately relatable, because it's similar to how people in the real world can overlook obvious red flags, warnings, and blatantly obvious issues, with someone because they are too closely involved and/or emotionally invested. Having been there a number of times, it's heartbreaking to watch it happen because it's so obvious to me, as the observer, but the person involved just can't, or refuses, to see it.

I think this game has done a pretty good job at taking relatable problems people can get into and translating it into a game world. I sit back and do feel bad for Erynn and that she didn't see the obvious problems brewing and let them fester and grow into what she's going through now. But the only reason I can say that is because I can personally relate to having gone through it in the real world.
It's not 100% related to what you said but I think there is some overlap with Erynn being both naïve and immature. She's certainly maturing throughout the story. It's not like I ever said she was wholly one or the other. You can be naive and it leads to immature decisions. You can be mature and naïve. I'd definitely say she's more mature than Alexis or Layla.
 

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Yeah I always thought Erynn as someone naive and scared but not immature
I'd argue she's naive, not immature. Hell, other than the teacher, she's the only one LI living on her own, supporting herself.
Naivety is being fooled by Ethan multiple times.

Part of maturity is understanding when you're in over your head and need help.

All of this is why I find Erynn 'dangerously' naive, and immature.

Erynn is naive sexually, as she has only had the one partner in Zane.
This *leads* to immaturity in her interactions with the MC in the sexual situations they find themselves in if you go down that route.

She's also looking at the MC as the 13 year old who left(for a good portion of time at the beginning). She froze him in time on an emotional level, even when she's acknowledging his physical growth and changes. That is an immature thing to do because shes kept the MC in her head as her friend of yesteryear, without taking a little time to get to know the man in front of her.

I'd even argue that she was dangerously immature with herself because of Ethan.
She knows MC hates Ethan because of the way Ethan treats/bullies the MC.
She herself has both witnessed it on the day of the confession *AND* before that.
Her words in the scene were (to paraphrase) "Why do you always bully him?"
Where Ethan responds with a flip "What? Why not? It's funny."
"ALWAYS" implies she has seen this behavior multiple times or at the very least, more than once.
She knows Ethan is a douche while she is 15/16. And she allowed the relationship with him to continue. Now I can't speak for others, but when I know someone is a POS, as long as I'm not related to them, I cut them out with no second thought.

The modelling gig brought Ethan back into the fold of Erynns life so she had a choice: Find another agency or keep with the one that Ethan family is involved in. She chose the latter. I won't blame her for making a business decision when MC wasn't even in the picture. That's smart and can't be second guessed.

Keeping it from the MC *and* knowing he won't be ok with it, and still expecting the MC to just be Ok with it because Erynn is trying desperately to reconnect with the MC is NOT mature.
Now someone might say, that's a double standard because Lexi lies to the MC and I'm OK with it.
I *am not OK with Lexi lying.* However, I am ok with being given the choice to hear her out and forgive her later.
Lexi's lie directly involves two people the MC cares about. While that sucks, MC has no bad blood outside of the lie with either.

We(the player) are only given the chance to forgive Erynn after learning firsthand that she is still involved with the person who has tormented the MC. Of all the shortcomings MC has - his feelings regarding Ethan are unequivocally correct.
That's a tough pill to swallow, and definitely one I can't forgive easy.
If someone hurts me(lies to me) like Lexi, I can forgive but I sure won't forget.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. If Lexi were to screw up again its a done deal.
But if someone lies to me about still being involved with someone who tormented emotionally and physically assaulted me, that's really tough to forgive. And someone who does that, at best I am wary of.

I think it's immature of Erynn to have worked in modeling, had all the bad things that have happened to her because of Ethan, and still expect the MC to be like, "All good, no worries."
I think it's immature of Erynn to act as flirty with MC and constantly looking for compliments, without having an idea of how it might be perceived by the MC.
I think it is immature of Erynn to not make tough decisions about the situation she has let spiral out of control until MC shows up.

All of these only start to change *AFTER* MC is in the picture. And that to me is the biggest flag of immaturity - she needs MC to set her on the right course instead of figuring it out, like most people have to do in life.

And damn, I really enjoy talking about this game. Even if no one agrees with me, I just enjoy a good chat about this game. :)
 

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There are alot of these girls id date irl. To keep it to this game, Alexis, Elena and Erryn here. Perhaps my tastes arent as discerning as others
You guys got me thinking. I really adore Elena and Iris but as far as the MC goes I really see Iris as his match. They just seem to fit together. dik? I really like Jill and her soft sweet personality and those are the same reasons I think Rio is my number one from that title. etern? Nova is a favorite but Annie is number one. Sweet, perky and loves the MC. leap? Cece without a doubt. pale? Same with the sweetness.. Mina ftw. race? Allison. More of that "meant to be together" vibe. I still think there is a love affair to be had.

(Every time I say a "no no word" I'm always waiting for the bzzt!)

 
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All of this is why I find Erynn 'dangerously' naive, and immature.

Erynn is naive sexually, as she has only had the one partner in Zane.
This *leads* to immaturity in her interactions with the MC in the sexual situations they find themselves in if you go down that route.

She's also looking at the MC as the 13 year old who left(for a good portion of time at the beginning). She froze him in time on an emotional level, even when she's acknowledging his physical growth and changes. That is an immature thing to do because shes kept the MC in her head as her friend of yesteryear, without taking a little time to get to know the man in front of her.

I'd even argue that she was dangerously immature with herself because of Ethan.
She knows MC hates Ethan because of the way Ethan treats/bullies the MC.
She herself has both witnessed it on the day of the confession *AND* before that.
Her words in the scene were (to paraphrase) "Why do you always bully him?"
Where Ethan responds with a flip "What? Why not? It's funny."
"ALWAYS" implies she has seen this behavior multiple times or at the very least, more than once.
She knows Ethan is a douche while she is 15/16. And she allowed the relationship with him to continue. Now I can't speak for others, but when I know someone is a POS, as long as I'm not related to them, I cut them out with no second thought.

The modelling gig brought Ethan back into the fold of Erynns life so she had a choice: Find another agency or keep with the one that Ethan family is involved in. She chose the latter. I won't blame her for making a business decision when MC wasn't even in the picture. That's smart and can't be second guessed.

Keeping it from the MC *and* knowing he won't be ok with it, and still expecting the MC to just be Ok with it because Erynn is trying desperately to reconnect with the MC is NOT mature.
Now someone might say, that's a double standard because Lexi lies to the MC and I'm OK with it.
I *am not OK with Lexi lying.* However, I am ok with being given the choice to hear her out and forgive her later.
Lexi's lie directly involves two people the MC cares about. While that sucks, MC has no bad blood outside of the lie with either.

We(the player) are only given the chance to forgive Erynn after learning firsthand that she is still involved with the person who has tormented the MC. Of all the shortcomings MC has - his feelings regarding Ethan are unequivocally correct.
That's a tough pill to swallow, and definitely one I can't forgive easy.
If someone hurts me(lies to me) like Lexi, I can forgive but I sure won't forget.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. If Lexi were to screw up again its a done deal.
But if someone lies to me about still being involved with someone who tormented emotionally and physically assaulted me, that's really tough to forgive. And someone who does that, at best I am wary of.

I think it's immature of Erynn to have worked in modeling, had all the bad things that have happened to her because of Ethan, and still expect the MC to be like, "All good, no worries."
I think it's immature of Erynn to act as flirty with MC and constantly looking for compliments, without having an idea of how it might be perceived by the MC.
I think it is immature of Erynn to not make tough decisions about the situation she has let spiral out of control until MC shows up.

All of these only start to change *AFTER* MC is in the picture. And that to me is the biggest flag of immaturity - she needs MC to set her on the right course instead of figuring it out, like most people have to do in life.

And damn, I really enjoy talking about this game. Even if no one agrees with me, I just enjoy a good chat about this game. :)
Difficult to argue with any of that.
 

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All of this is why I find Erynn 'dangerously' naive, and immature.

Erynn is naive sexually, as she has only had the one partner in Zane.
This *leads* to immaturity in her interactions with the MC in the sexual situations they find themselves in if you go down that route.

She's also looking at the MC as the 13 year old who left(for a good portion of time at the beginning). She froze him in time on an emotional level, even when she's acknowledging his physical growth and changes. That is an immature thing to do because shes kept the MC in her head as her friend of yesteryear, without taking a little time to get to know the man in front of her.

I'd even argue that she was dangerously immature with herself because of Ethan.
She knows MC hates Ethan because of the way Ethan treats/bullies the MC.
She herself has both witnessed it on the day of the confession *AND* before that.
Her words in the scene were (to paraphrase) "Why do you always bully him?"
Where Ethan responds with a flip "What? Why not? It's funny."
"ALWAYS" implies she has seen this behavior multiple times or at the very least, more than once.
She knows Ethan is a douche while she is 15/16. And she allowed the relationship with him to continue. Now I can't speak for others, but when I know someone is a POS, as long as I'm not related to them, I cut them out with no second thought.

The modelling gig brought Ethan back into the fold of Erynns life so she had a choice: Find another agency or keep with the one that Ethan family is involved in. She chose the latter. I won't blame her for making a business decision when MC wasn't even in the picture. That's smart and can't be second guessed.

Keeping it from the MC *and* knowing he won't be ok with it, and still expecting the MC to just be Ok with it because Erynn is trying desperately to reconnect with the MC is NOT mature.
Now someone might say, that's a double standard because Lexi lies to the MC and I'm OK with it.
I *am not OK with Lexi lying.* However, I am ok with being given the choice to hear her out and forgive her later.
Lexi's lie directly involves two people the MC cares about. While that sucks, MC has no bad blood outside of the lie with either.

We(the player) are only given the chance to forgive Erynn after learning firsthand that she is still involved with the person who has tormented the MC. Of all the shortcomings MC has - his feelings regarding Ethan are unequivocally correct.
That's a tough pill to swallow, and definitely one I can't forgive easy.
If someone hurts me(lies to me) like Lexi, I can forgive but I sure won't forget.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. If Lexi were to screw up again its a done deal.
But if someone lies to me about still being involved with someone who tormented emotionally and physically assaulted me, that's really tough to forgive. And someone who does that, at best I am wary of.

I think it's immature of Erynn to have worked in modeling, had all the bad things that have happened to her because of Ethan, and still expect the MC to be like, "All good, no worries."
I think it's immature of Erynn to act as flirty with MC and constantly looking for compliments, without having an idea of how it might be perceived by the MC.
I think it is immature of Erynn to not make tough decisions about the situation she has let spiral out of control until MC shows up.

All of these only start to change *AFTER* MC is in the picture. And that to me is the biggest flag of immaturity - she needs MC to set her on the right course instead of figuring it out, like most people have to do in life.

And damn, I really enjoy talking about this game. Even if no one agrees with me, I just enjoy a good chat about this game. :)
not gonna lie alot of this is hard for me to agree with but I can see your point of view. I only say this because I have a very passive and introvert personality and that's how I tend to look at alot of things. But if I wasn't I can somewhat see where you are coming from.
 
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All of this is why I find Erynn 'dangerously' naive, and immature.

Erynn is naive sexually, as she has only had the one partner in Zane.
This *leads* to immaturity in her interactions with the MC in the sexual situations they find themselves in if you go down that route.

She's also looking at the MC as the 13 year old who left(for a good portion of time at the beginning). She froze him in time on an emotional level, even when she's acknowledging his physical growth and changes. That is an immature thing to do because shes kept the MC in her head as her friend of yesteryear, without taking a little time to get to know the man in front of her.

I'd even argue that she was dangerously immature with herself because of Ethan.
She knows MC hates Ethan because of the way Ethan treats/bullies the MC.
She herself has both witnessed it on the day of the confession *AND* before that.
Her words in the scene were (to paraphrase) "Why do you always bully him?"
Where Ethan responds with a flip "What? Why not? It's funny."
"ALWAYS" implies she has seen this behavior multiple times or at the very least, more than once.
She knows Ethan is a douche while she is 15/16. And she allowed the relationship with him to continue. Now I can't speak for others, but when I know someone is a POS, as long as I'm not related to them, I cut them out with no second thought.

The modelling gig brought Ethan back into the fold of Erynns life so she had a choice: Find another agency or keep with the one that Ethan family is involved in. She chose the latter. I won't blame her for making a business decision when MC wasn't even in the picture. That's smart and can't be second guessed.

Keeping it from the MC *and* knowing he won't be ok with it, and still expecting the MC to just be Ok with it because Erynn is trying desperately to reconnect with the MC is NOT mature.
Now someone might say, that's a double standard because Lexi lies to the MC and I'm OK with it.
I *am not OK with Lexi lying.* However, I am ok with being given the choice to hear her out and forgive her later.
Lexi's lie directly involves two people the MC cares about. While that sucks, MC has no bad blood outside of the lie with either.

We(the player) are only given the chance to forgive Erynn after learning firsthand that she is still involved with the person who has tormented the MC. Of all the shortcomings MC has - his feelings regarding Ethan are unequivocally correct.
That's a tough pill to swallow, and definitely one I can't forgive easy.
If someone hurts me(lies to me) like Lexi, I can forgive but I sure won't forget.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. If Lexi were to screw up again its a done deal.
But if someone lies to me about still being involved with someone who tormented emotionally and physically assaulted me, that's really tough to forgive. And someone who does that, at best I am wary of.

I think it's immature of Erynn to have worked in modeling, had all the bad things that have happened to her because of Ethan, and still expect the MC to be like, "All good, no worries."
I think it's immature of Erynn to act as flirty with MC and constantly looking for compliments, without having an idea of how it might be perceived by the MC.
I think it is immature of Erynn to not make tough decisions about the situation she has let spiral out of control until MC shows up.

All of these only start to change *AFTER* MC is in the picture. And that to me is the biggest flag of immaturity - she needs MC to set her on the right course instead of figuring it out, like most people have to do in life.

And damn, I really enjoy talking about this game. Even if no one agrees with me, I just enjoy a good chat about this game. :)
I like when someone else types my thoughts so I don't have to. Well put.
 

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Erynn is actually my #1 favorite LI on my AVN LI ranking. Which is funny cause there are others that are better characters than her for me but they don't bring a big ass smile to my face whenever I see them on the screen , like Erynn. Honestly even a few others have that effect to me in this game just not as much as Erynn. That's why I love this game so much even if I dislike the Ethan stuff Nyx has a way with creating scenes and characters that just make me smile.
Erynn is sort of like Charlotte in Hillside, but before things get too crazy wrong. We can fix her! Prevent the tragedy!
 
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