VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[byaaahh]

Personally, it gives me more the impression that for him the problem had been solved by his parents.
And alternatively that he knew nothing about it, which I doubt, as Meiri says he hasn't done a damn thing for his son for about twenty years.

What's more likely, he confides to his parents about the pregnancy and they approach Emily about termination behind his back, or he's fully on board with the termination and his bewilderment at her reaction when he approaches her at the beach is inauthentic?

Considering he shows interest in his son when he runs into pre-divorce Emily, it points toward the former.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Considering he shows interest in his son when he runs into pre-divorce Emily, it points toward the former.

Considering he's texting her after seeing her on her date with John, it could very well be a way to leave the door open for him to screw Emily again.

 

[cxx]

Guys... is my idea or Alexis skin tone looks kinda zombie-ish
Yes, I know that the MC has similar skin tone, but dunno, I have a feeling that she might be sick or something

well she works in smokey bar and doesn't get that much sunlight so ...............

 

[byaaahh]

Considering he's texting her after seeing her on her date with John, it could very well be a way to leave the door open for him to screw Emily again.

I was talking about when MC was 10 and Andres found out about Emily meeting Santi, leading to the divorce. It does look like there may be a reconciliation path between Santi and Emily brewing...

I'm just saying, all the Santi hate makes little sense when we learn from not just Emily, but Zo too, that he would want to know his son. Doesn't scream of someone who wanted the child aborted, which is why his bewilderment at the beach makes me think he didn't know.

 

[Meiri]

It has been shown it wasn't his choice, he was just respecting Emily's wishes. She's the one who avoided Santi for months, accepting the ultimatum given by Andres to raise the boy as his and cutting Santi out.

Even when he bumps into her 10 years later, he expresses interest in how his son is doing. That doesn't scream "I don't care about my child", more like someone who cared enough to let go to prevent a tumultuous situation for both Emily and MC.

I guess we just view things differently, they were too young so I can understand him not knowing how to deal with an unexpected son at that point in their lives, but I still think at some point in his life he should have fought harder for his son even if Emily and his parents were pushing him away.

Again we are missing his side of the story but he is not an innocent figure in all of this.

 

[byaaahh]

I guess we just view things differently, they were too young so I can understand him not knowing how to deal with an unexpected son at that point in their lives, but I still think at some point in his life he should have fought harder for his son even if Emily and his parents were pushing him away.

Again we are missing his side of the story but he is not an innocent figure in all of this.

It's stated that Emily avoided him for the entirety of her pregnancy, during which time she was tethered to Andres. By the time she had given birth to MC and returned to college, Santi had graduated and left town knowing that she wanted nothing to do with him. She made her choice and he respected it.

Should he have done more? Yes.
Could he have without burdening the mother of his child with lawyer fees? No. That would be his only choice considering how Emily felt at the time, which undoubtedly would lead to more resentment and a situation no child should be brought up in. So he relinquished and let Emily raise his son as she saw fit.

We'll see what happens when Santi learns about Andres only dating Emily to get back at him, the ultimatum and how he punched his son.

 

[Dana447]

Anyone know how to unlock tori's beach scene?

 

[Justaphase]

Anyone know how to unlock tori's beach scene?

No, it's been removed from the game. Or it should be anyway...

 

[cxx]

No, it's been removed from the game. Or it should be anyway...

that wasn't nice.

 

[Dessolos]

Only if Ethan was interested in Tori

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I was talking about when MC was 10 and Andres found out about Emily meeting Santi, leading to the divorce. It does look like there may be a reconciliation path between Santi and Emily brewing...

I'm just saying, all the Santi hate makes little sense when we learn from not just Emily, but Zo too, that he would want to know his son. Doesn't scream of someone who wanted the child aborted, which is why his bewilderment at the beach makes me think he didn't know.

The fact that after receiving the information he approached Emily as if nothing had happened, furthermore he did not in any way try to understand why Emily was angry, as if he knew the reason.
He's probably matured and all but what he did remains

 

[DIKHammer]

Only if Ethan was interested in Tori

Hell I'd even set the two up

 

[byaaahh]

The fact that after receiving the information he approached Emily as if nothing had happened, furthermore he did not in any way try to understand why Emily was angry, as if he knew the reason.
He's probably matured and all but what he did remains

But if he knew, her reaction of rejecting the money and storming out would have been relayed to him and he wouldn't be confused by her anger as he would have seen it as a possibility.

As it stands, all we know is he took a few days to contemplate, his parents interfered and next time he saw Emily she refused to entertain talking to him.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

The MC only just found out. He's been asked to let Melissa and John tell her, which I think is more than reasonable.

Dont matter the reason, she's still gonna be pissed and take it out on him and he'll deserve it for that crap he pulled 5 years

The only father figure who has truly been portrayed as an asshole is the one who essentially blackmailed Emily (a girl he was only with to get revenge on Santi) into raising her and Santi's child as his, where he then proceeded to assault said child for confronting him with the truth about his parentage and Andres' infidelity.

Kinda crazy that the absentee father is the asshole over the one who stepped up when Emily couldnt handle her child. Also its funny how Emily kept that secret even after they divorced until such time as she fucked up. But this is about fathers so yea.

Hell I'd even set the two up

Ethan couldnt handle tori. He better stick to fucking Erynn clones, thats more his speed.

 

[El_Magnifico]

Ethan couldnt handle tori. He better stick to fucking Erynn clones, thats more his speed.

Or even better he could stick to go fuck himself.

 

[Kaskaze]

Anyone know how to unlock tori's beach scene?

Being on Alexis (or for someone else, it is important to have a lot of points to get an invitation to the beach) and Tori's route.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

minor hint, if you're negging Mckayla, you're likely on the right track as negative points for one girl typically means positive for the other

 

[byaaahh]

Kinda crazy that the absentee father is the asshole over the one who stepped up when Emily couldnt handle her child. Also its funny how Emily kept that secret even after they divorced until such time as she fucked up. But this is about fathers so yea.

Why did he "step up"? It's practically confirmed he never really loved Emily and only got with her because Santi got with a girl he was crushing on. He took on Emily and the MC not out of love, but out of spite against Santi. His true feelings toward MC are shown when he assaults him when confronted about his infidelity.

We're also told Andres was going to reveal the truth when MC got old enough so Emily left it to him, only he neglected to do it.

Andres is basically Zack from 20 years prior. A undersexed, overly jealous rodent who had to blackmail a single mother into marriage.

 

[Zorro#34]

Why did he "step up"? It's practically confirmed he never really loved Emily and only got with her because Santi got with a girl he was crushing on. He took on Emily and the MC not out of love, but out of spite against Santi. His true feelings toward MC are shown when he assaults him when confronted about his infidelity.

We're also told Andres was going to reveal the truth when MC got old enough so Emily left it to him, only he neglected to do it.

Andres is basically Zack from 20 years prior. A undersexed, overly jealous rodent who had to blackmail a single mother into marriage.

Or maybe he was just an unsuccessful suitor who jumped at the chance to be with the girl he liked, agreeing to raise someone else's child (a terrible price for any man) in exchange for basic human decency - being considered the father of the kid so that kid doesn't totally disrespect him when he gets older. I think it's very reasonable.
Anyway, whatever Andres's motivations, I don't care, as I'm viewing the situation from the position of the child - and in the child's POV, Andres was the one putting in hard work (and raising a child is hard), each day, for years, including when Emily gave up on the kid, while Santiago was out there fucking 18-year-olds and enjoying a luxurious lifestyle. Sure, the thought of his son crossed his mind once or twice, and he even asked Emily about that… But did he do anything else? No. If he was truly the father, he'd move mountains to be with his son. Did he do that? No. It's true, Andres and the MC had some altercations lately, but to me, he's still his dad. Besides, the conflict enabled the MC to continue his relationship with Nikki, so I'm even low-key grateful for that.
I'd really want to be able to tell Santi, "You're not my father. You're just some asshole who fucked Mom, long ago". Too bad the MC isn't written the way that'd be fitting for that.
Ironically, the only way I'd forgive Santiago is if he truly turned out to be Alexis's and Layla's dad/stepdad, so that he, too, got to experience the hardships of fatherhood. But by jossing that cliffhanger, Nyx made it completely impossible.

 

[Meiri]

Why did he "step up"? It's practically confirmed he never really loved Emily and only got with her because Santi got with a girl he was crushing on. He took on Emily and the MC not out of love, but out of spite against Santi. His true feelings toward MC are shown when he assaults him when confronted about his infidelity.

We're also told Andres was going to reveal the truth when MC got old enough so Emily left it to him, only he neglected to do it.

Andres is basically Zack from 20 years prior. A undersexed, overly jealous rodent who had to blackmail a single mother into marriage.

Andres is a liar and a cheater sure, but atleast he stepped up and took care of us when he didn't have to, sure the motives were not altruistic but he didn't have to and he did.

Santi is our real father he knew that and should have been the one to take care of us even if his family didn't like it, even if Emily was hesitant, Santi just accepts that and moves on, asking for us every once in a while is not showing interest or love.

In the end, neither of them is a good father or husband but I don't understand why Santi gets to be innocent here, at this point if I had the choice I would keep my distance from both.