VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Tremonia]

In short, an incest patch wouldn't hurt

Yeah, motherfuckers will surely love it. Let's show us your patch. Maybe it's good.

 

[Maviarab]

The only thing I don't necessarily agree with is the part about Erynn's fear of losing a friend, she doesn't behave with the MC as if they were just friend, not for the age they both are.

She's a grown woman, open enough to have chosen a career as a model, and she's VERY aware of who she is and how she looks.

What I mean is that for me the only real reason that justifies how slowly the relationship with Erynn develops, is the traumatic situation she's in, not her past friendship with the MC, or the risk of losing a friend.

Friendzone IS a thing, she doesn't put the MC in the friendzone, she routinely jumps in his bed, she flirts with him, she's jealous of other women he hangs out with.

Going to ask, how many of you had a friend of the other sex when you were in your late teens/early 20s? How many times did they jump into your bed while you were asleep or strated changing in front of you? In the case it happened, how did you react to it and how did your friendship develop?

EDIT because I pressed send before finishing it lol

Erynn is afraid of losing the MC, but not as a friend, that's not what she wants.

'Friends' also don't usually let you grope their boobs either lol.

 

[Ricthequick]

Yeah, motherfuckers will surely love it. Let's show us your patch. Maybe it's good.

It feels good when a word has its literal meaning!

'Friends' also don't usually let you grope their boobs either lol.

Or hang a poster of themselves in your room.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

yea, I think if not for the Ethan stuff, Erryn would be an all-or-nothing girl much like Alexis. I believe that question from so long ago and the aftermath truly fucked her up.

Friends definitely fuck with each other while sleeping, but all the other stuff, probably not.

 

[horofan]

First off, they both know they’re friends. If they decide to take it further and things don’t work out, they lose not only a partner but also a friend. Even if things end, it’d be hard to see each other just as friends again. It wouldn’t be ‘Hey, that’s my friend,’ but more like ‘Hey, that’s my ex.’

This is generally a weak theory, but even it could only have been relevant up to episode 11, before they began a sexual relationship. When two “friends” kiss while half-naked or naked, engage in petting, masturbate each other, it is obvious that this is not a normal friendship, but a romantic relationship. There is no difference between this and penetrative sex for mature adults. The difference only arises for inexperienced teenagers (not the case here) or siblings (not the case either, unless there is an incest patch).

So in her mind sticking to a simple friendship is the safe choice

But she doesn't make that choice! The MC is not and never has been in the friendzone.

I'd say is pretty obvious that she is traumatized

No, it's not obvious. It's a theory based on the events we know about.
But her behavior is not like that of someone with sexual trauma. Even Valeria shows this better.
It's just a flaw in the author's work, which we have to fill in with our own guesses.

 

[LSC82]

The only thing I don't necessarily agree with is the part about Erynn's fear of losing a friend, she doesn't behave with the MC as if they were just friend, not for the age they both are.

She's a grown woman, open enough to have chosen a career as a model, and she's VERY aware of who she is and how she looks.

What I mean is that for me the only real reason that justifies how slowly the relationship with Erynn develops, is the traumatic situation she's in, not her past friendship with the MC, or the risk of losing a friend.

Friendzone IS a thing, she doesn't put the MC in the friendzone, she routinely jumps in his bed, she flirts with him, she's jealous of other women he hangs out with.

Going to ask, how many of you had a friend of the other sex when you were in your late teens/early 20s? How many times did they jump into your bed while you were asleep or strated changing in front of you? In the case it happened, how did you react to it and how did your friendship develop?

EDIT because I pressed send before finishing it lol

Erynn is afraid of losing the MC, but not as a friend, that's not what she wants.

I get the feeling that because they are friends from a very young age, friends that used to sleep on the same bed as kids, showered together... Erynn(perhaps innocently) doesn't see these things(sneaking into his bed, waking him up, "intense" hugs) as flirty, like an older teen/young adult would see.
At least to a certain point she sees it as the kind of relationship they had before (and she misses dearly).

The "afraid of losing her friend" part, isn't so easy because she's conflicted between the safe choice of staying friends and the new feelings she has for the adult MC, part of her wants the relationship, part of her is afraid that this could damage their friendship.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

No, it's not obvious. It's a theory based on the events we know about.
But her behavior is not like that of someone with sexual trauma. Even Valeria shows this better.
It's just a flaw in the author's work, which we have to fill in with our own guesses.

Id say the fact that she blueballs the mc on multiple occasions when they both get undressed shows how timid she is in terms of sexual interactions. That and the fact that she basically isolates herself from everybody.

 

[horofan]

The "afraid of losing her friend" part, isn't so easy because she's conflicted between the safe choice of staying friends and the new feelings she has for the adult MC, part of her wants the relationship, part of her is afraid that this could damage their friendship.

I just gave one frame from episode 11.
Does this look like friendship? If the MC's other LI sees this, will she believe that this is just a normal thing between friends, or will she decide that they are lovers?
The only one who will forgive, but not believe such nonsense, is Iris.

 

[horofan]

Nikki! It's just our tradition from childhood to shower together! Just as friends, honestly!

 

[Ricthequick]

Nikki! It's just our tradition from childhood to shower together! Just as friends, honestly!

Cane we appreciate why Lexi is the ONLY fitting partner for the MC? Even their skin color matches!

 

[LSC82]

I just gave one frame from episode 11.
Does this look like friendship? If the MC's other LI sees this, will she believe that this is just a normal thing between friends, or will she decide that they are lovers?
The only one who will forgive, but not believe such nonsense, is Iris.

I've already said, she's split between wanting a relationship(and she does want a relationship) and afraid of possible negative consequences of this relationship.

Obviously as things progress she's gradually moving more and more towards relationship and leaving her fears behind.

No, it's not obvious. It's a theory based on the events we know about.
But her behavior is not like that of someone with sexual trauma. Even Valeria shows this better.
It's just a flaw in the author's work, which we have to fill in with our own guesses.

It is pretty obvious to me... her sometimes wishy-washy actions are consistent with someone who wants something but is afraid to trust.

Never mind that your stupid ass started this because you wanted Erynn to be the MCs sister or some other dumb shit...

 

[Kaskaze]

I get the feeling that because they are friends from a very young age, friends that used to sleep on the same bed as kids, showered together... Erynn(perhaps innocently) doesn't see these things(sneaking into his bed, waking him up, "intense" hugs) as flirty, like an older teen/young adult would see it.
At least to a certain point she sees it as the kind of relationship they had before (and she misses dearly).

The "afraid of losing her friend" part, isn't so easy because she's conflicted between the safe choice of staying friends and the new feelings she has for the adult MC, part of her wants the relationship, part of her is afraid that this could damage their friendship.

Signing on to that too

 

[horofan]

I've already said, she's split between wanting a relationship(and she does want a relationship) and afraid of possible negative consequences of this relationship.

Obviously as things progress she's gradually moving more and more towards relationship and leaving her fears behind.

I've already said, it is nonsense. Adults don't behave like that, only immature teenagers or siblings.

Never mind that your stupid ass started this because you wanted Erynn to be the MCs sister or some other dumb shit...

God, you're such a snowflake. It was a joke, considering that Erynn acting like a sister.

 

[Kaskaze]

Maybe it’s a weird example, but Iris also has a relaxed and very specific approach to friendships and relationships (like watching Alexis and MC’s sex). I’ll still stick to the idea that MC + Erynn have a different kind of relationship than everyone else. Both have their fears, both have their flaws, and both are afraid to take a step forward You can see it here too. Erynn wants to say it, but she’s scared, and MC isn’t pushing or forcing her

 

[Ricthequick]

God, you're such a snowflake. It was a joke, considering that Erynn acting like a sister.

Erm... not to be an ass, but what kind of sister/s are we speaking about? Porn sisters?
Because I struggle to believe many sisters grab their brother's cock under the shower or let him grab their pussy.

 

[LSC82]

I've already said, it is nonsense. Adults don't behave like that, only immature teenagers or siblings.

Unless they are... say... dealing with trauma.

You are so close to getting it

God, you're such a snowflake.

So edgy... careful not to cut yourself

Maybe it’s a weird example, but Iris also has a relaxed and very specific approach to friendships and relationships (like watching Alexis and MC’s sex). I’ll still stick to the idea that MC + Erynn have a different kind of relationship than everyone else. Both have their fears, both have their flaws, and both are afraid to take a step forward View attachment 5381583 You can see it here too. Erynn wants to say it, but she’s scared, and MC isn’t pushing or forcing her

Again

 

[Acsuka]

horofan
You do know that the pictures you upload are from the Erynn route, right? It wasn't MC's decision, it wasn't Erynn's, it was yours.
You as a player decided to think with your dick and not your brain. If you say no to the photoshoot together, then these scenes don't exist. Especially not on a Lexi route... You want more from Erynn and you don't think about Nikki... So, I ask, why are you complaining? It's all your decision... Or do you just want to troll...

 

[horofan]

Erm... not to be an ass, but what kind of sister/s are we speaking about? Porn sisters?

Yep. This is a traditional trope to justify slow burning.
In this game, girls have no problem having sex fairly quickly. Even with virgins, everything happens within the bounds of reasonable development. Only Erynn is not like everyone else, and cosplays sister from porn games (in a porn game, heh), who cannot immediately engage in penetrative sex, and must be seduced in small steps.

 

[horofan]

So, I ask, why are you complaining? It's all your decision... Or do you just want to troll...

This is a just mockery of the theory that Erynnʼs mind sticking to a simple friendship.

 

[Dessolos]

I just gave one frame from episode 11.
Does this look like friendship? If the MC's other LI sees this, will she believe that this is just a normal thing between friends, or will she decide that they are lovers?
The only one who will forgive, but not believe such nonsense, is Iris.

and yet you only see this if you play her path but if you friendzone her you don't. So no idea wtf you are on about if this looks like a friendship or romantic relationship when it's clear things stay very friendly if you don't play her path and she is struggling to take the next step if on her path