kiljaeden

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Can somebody tell me how many routes in this game for each characters? I saw Andrew and Chris together with Nadine threesome, Andrew and Chris (who is fucking Matteo and Marcus) broke up with pregnant Denise and Andew fucking everybody including Denise and Kelly without breaking up with Chris. With different combinations this game has a lot of routes. I didn't see any scenes with Kelly and other guys yet. Some lesbian stuff and kissing the bald guy only.
 

baka

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for me its just cheating. but sure u could define it as ntr.
also, it all depends how u play the Mc. in my plays, I dont feel MC that much cucked by it. contrary he is having a good time on his own.
 
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Just my 2 cents, but it seems to me like most of the people who hate Christine and toss her away do not care enough about her to worry about if what she is doing is cheating or anything else... In their minds she is not their love interest any longer thus NTR does not apply.

However, when you consider how it actually happens in game. The MC is horny thanks to his daughter and when he sees Christine he thinks, damn, I need to get laid, she is looking good right now lets get my balls drained. The MC is not the one making the choice to have sex or not. The MC thinks they are still in a relationship and that she would be willing to fuck him. She then turns him down and goes to Matteo to fuck him.

The relationship between MC and Christine may be shit, but when she goes and fucks another man they are still together. It is not until she returns home later that night and the MC realizes she has been away and had probably fucked another man that he thinks about the relationship and comes to terms with it being dead. He however does not kick her out. Christine ends up leaving their home of her own free will to move in with Matteo. Thus Matteo has stolen the MC's woman, even if the relationship was dying anyway it was her cheating on the MC that finally put the nails in the coffin so to speak. This is shown on the other side of the coin where if she decides to fuck MC that night instead of Matteo you can salvage the relationship and slowly begin to improve it.

For me it is definitely NTR, but it is done well. It only happens if you no longer care enough about the wife to try and salvage it. It is always in your hands so to speak even though in game it is Christines decision. For me personally I was far more interested in the sex between MC and Kelly, the MC and Christine scenes done nothing for me. That said I was glad we got to see Christine get corrupted and turn into a bit of a cock hungry whore after. Her scenes with Matteo and then Marcus were way hotter than that between MC and Christine and on par with the MC and Kelly scenes.

For the most part the NTR is optional though. But there maybe could have been a way for people not into Christine and who are not into NTR to have aimed for a different LI without being forced to see the Christine scenes with Matteo.


But that aside I have to admit I am a little bit disappointed. Waiting so long for an update only for there to be no content added for those of us who are only with Kelly and Kelly is only with us and not fucking Darla too. (Not sure if the Darla bit matters or not for the lack of new content).
 

ImperialD

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all in all not a bad update .. 6 months for it tho .. trouble thinking of what to add to content ?
 

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Found a bug. Right after Kelly calls from Robert's friends' house telling MC how pedestrian it is for him to be fucking his secretary, I get an exception error and the route with Jessica switches to the route with Denise even if you didn't do anything with Denise before that point.

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Midolite

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Dude, she still his wife. Not because it's another dude, but because it's his wife with another dude.

The first time she cheats on him with Matteo they're still together and she's still living with him. It's pretty cut and dry that is NTR, but this is not the place for a what is, what isn't NTR.
But the tag rules definitions of F95zone it is. A li (wife) in a situtation with someone other than the MC that can cause jealousy.

Hell if you really wanted to get technical and take it extreme (I don't and wouldn't ) you can argue that Kelly kissing Robert on the lips was NTR. Everyone seems to forget the whole thing about NTR is the causing the feeling of jealous because a LI is doing something with someone else. It doesn't have to be a sex act. I agree that is too extreme for a porn game definition though.

Honestly because of the lack of the tag, I assumed she'd run away.

Off topic and not to do with the ntr debate, but as far as I'm concerned if woman is no longer a love interest there is no point her being in the game, when she left Andrew she should have been dropped from the story with no further scenes. What's the point in showing her fuck him or the other guy(s) unless it's there to cause a response.
All I can respond to that is, how can this be ntr when the "ntr" that you're talking about is driven by your actions?
if you don't want it, don't make her do it then! As for why is she still in the game that's for the game dev to decide what he wants to do with his characters and yes I know when a chara doesn't have any usefulness in a story they should be taken out

but some time you can do nice things with them like making them grow on there own, honestly I don't know the script so...
That is that.

In her case since you can control her she is as much a MC as the daughter and the father. anyway take or leave it you're free to have your opinion on it, games are made to be experienced in your own way after all
 
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Midolite

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Just my 2 cents, but it seems to me like most of the people who hate Christine and toss her away do not care enough about her to worry about if what she is doing is cheating or anything else... In their minds she is not their love interest any longer thus NTR does not apply.

However, when you consider how it actually happens in game. The MC is horny thanks to his daughter and when he sees Christine he thinks, damn, I need to get laid, she is looking good right now lets get my balls drained. The MC is not the one making the choice to have sex or not. The MC thinks they are still in a relationship and that she would be willing to fuck him. She then turns him down and goes to Matteo to fuck him.

The relationship between MC and Christine may be shit, but when she goes and fucks another man they are still together. It is not until she returns home later that night and the MC realizes she has been away and had probably fucked another man that he thinks about the relationship and comes to terms with it being dead. He however does not kick her out. Christine ends up leaving their home of her own free will to move in with Matteo. Thus Matteo has stolen the MC's woman, even if the relationship was dying anyway it was her cheating on the MC that finally put the nails in the coffin so to speak. This is shown on the other side of the coin where if she decides to fuck MC that night instead of Matteo you can salvage the relationship and slowly begin to improve it.

For me it is definitely NTR, but it is done well. It only happens if you no longer care enough about the wife to try and salvage it. It is always in your hands so to speak even though in game it is Christines decision. For me personally I was far more interested in the sex between MC and Kelly, the MC and Christine scenes done nothing for me. That said I was glad we got to see Christine get corrupted and turn into a bit of a cock hungry whore after. Her scenes with Matteo and then Marcus were way hotter than that between MC and Christine and on par with the MC and Kelly scenes.

For the most part the NTR is optional though. But there maybe could have been a way for people not into Christine and who are not into NTR to have aimed for a different LI without being forced to see the Christine scenes with Matteo.


But that aside I have to admit I am a little bit disappointed. Waiting so long for an update only for there to be no content added for those of us who are only with Kelly and Kelly is only with us and not fucking Darla too. (Not sure if the Darla bit matters or not for the lack of new content).
with or without darla it doesn't go much further sadly it's probably due to patreon, in any case I Like your view point I hadn't seen it like that for the wife mostly because i didn't really care about her
 

Walter Victor

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All I can respond to that is, how can this be ntr when the "ntr" that you're talking about is driven by your actions?
I don't think that's the way it works. There are plenty of games that have NTR and non-NTR routes based on the choices that the player makes. Some of those choices even lead to the MC being forced to watch while his LI has sex with someone else. How could that possibly NOT be NTR, just because the player can avoid it. If the player makes the NTR choices, the MC sure experiences it.
if you don't want it, don't make her do it then! As for why is she still in the game that's for the game dev to decide what he wants to do with his characters and yes I know when a chara doesn't have any usefulness in a story they should be taken out

but some time you can do nice things with them like making them grow on there own, honestly I don't know the script so...
That is that.

In her case since you can control her she is as much a MC as the daughter and the father. anyway take or leave it you're free to have your opinion on it, games are made to be experienced in your own way after all
Now here, I am in complete agreement. If a choice of paths is offered, the players can go the way they want, and avoid anything they don't want. In this game it is relatively easy for any player to avoid anything smacking of NTR. If the player doesn't want to have Christine cheat on Andrew, she won't.

Of course some players will stumble on something by chance, or because they try everything. My advice to them if they find something they don't like: try making other choices.

I also completely agree that developers should tell the story they want to tell, and live or die by their decisions. There are games out there for every taste, and no one game will satisfy everyone.
 

P4cc3r5

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So what was actually updated content-wise? Changelog just says tba.
Just the paths involving Christine or Christine/Nadine - with or without Kelly. Whether its Christine or Christine/Nadine there's no difference in play. The only difference is whether the MC choses to continue with Kelly or not. Limited lewd content either way.

Personally, I'll wait until all paths are updated - those updated already + Denise, Jessica & Kelly only paths. May take a while before that happens.
 

harsha_26

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It's same type of sh*t game where vanilla wife sex is boring and not much worthy blowjobs or no hardcore, but in cheating/ntr or whataver you all that route, she becomes a slut and does involve in many blowjobs and hardcore sex at all places. I hate this scenario. Please don't take for granted that all non-ntr fans are into vanilla boring sex. A wife can be a personal kinky slut of husband without NTR/cheating/sharing too. I wish this stereotype of adult games goes away soon.
 

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Just the paths involving Christine or Christine/Nadine - with or without Kelly. Whether its Christine or Christine/Nadine there's no difference in play. The only difference is whether the MC choses to continue with Kelly or not. Limited lewd content either way.

Personally, I'll wait until all paths are updated - those updated already + Denise, Jessica & Kelly only paths. May take a while before that happens.
Thanks for the heads up... I’m kinda interested in a Kelly only path, but would be tempted to hook up with side girls as long as there are no negative consequences.
 
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