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Synnerai

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Chris is not the cuck in these scenes, because Maria is fucked by her husband there. It's not Chris's woman who is getting fucked, John is fucking his own wife and in this scene he is sharing her with Chris. John might be called cuck, but really he is not, because he is not the sub, is not humiliated, his woman (even though he has multiple women he fucks) is not stolen away from him and he fucks tons of other women. And the scene with Alex "Tyrone" is avoidable. And on the other note, I think, having multiple sexual partners is a lot of people's sexual fantasy and of coarse you know why these games are made. It's a sexual fantasy, so the games cater to people's sexual fantasies. So this arguing doesn't make sense, Poly doesn't know what he's talking about (which is strange since I think he has seen plenty of porn), OR he is just playing dumb and trolling (most likely).

P.S. I hope I remember those names correctly... I played plenty of these games, so of coarse I ge those names confused sometimes. XD
 
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Chris is not the cuck in these scenes, because Maria is fucked by her husband there. It's not Chris's woman who is getting fucked, John is fucking his own wife and in this scene he is sharing her with Chris. John might be called cuck, but really he is not, because he is not the sub, is not humiliated, his woman (even though he has multiple women he fucks) is not stolen away from him and fucks tons of other women. And the scene with Alex "Tyrone" is avoidable. And on the other note, I think, having multiple sexual partners is a lot of people's sexual fantasy and of coarse you know why these games are made. It's a sexual fantasy, so the games cater to people's sexual fantasies. So this arguing doesn't make sense, Poly doesn't know what he's talking about (which is strange since I think he has seen plenty of porn), OR he is just playing dumb and trolling (most likely).

P.S. I hope I remember those names correctly... I played plenty of these games, so of coarse I ge those names confused sometimes. XD
You make an excellent point. I have seen a few porns. In Russian porn lately, there's a lot of "sell your girlfriend" going on. Rather than calling it cuck, where the boyfriend watches his girl get used by another man, they prefer to look at this as a business transaction. Perhaps that is what leads to the confusion about what cuckery is or is not. Cultural difference of opinion. But this discussion isn't about cuck. It's about -/removed/- saying "I make everything optional" which is a fucking lie.
 
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and chill out. noone cares what the Definition of "chuckhold" is, you can call it whatever you want lol. if you guys like to watch other men fuck women infront of you while you watch, thats cool bro.
 
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Synnerai

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You make an excellent point. I have seen a few porns. In Russian porn lately, there's a lot of "sell your girlfriend" going on. Rather than calling it cuck, where the boyfriend watches his girl get used by another man, they prefer to look at this as a business transaction. Perhaps that is what leads to the confusion about what cuckery is or is not. Cultural difference of opinion. But this discussion isn't about cuck. It's about a cunt saying "I make everything optional" which is a fucking lie.
Then your arguments are just confusing or you are confused yourself, because a scene where you share your girlfriend and can watch her get fucked by another dude is optional. It's only that one scene with Dana where you can let her fuck John. Maybe if you count when she was joking ove the phone, than 2, but again, optional. Also, Maria is not your girlfriend, but John's wife and you are just her partner in her sexual fantasies, not a boyfriend, because Maria and John are married and they are swingers, you know, you are like a sex-friend or friend with benefits or something, I don't remember if I call it right. I think it's pretty obvious from what the characters say, especially since they both treat you as their sex-partner and friend. You're not John's rival. You can also "not allow" Maria to be sexual with Alex (the black dude). And we talk about Mila or what's her name... she is a prostitute. And when you have scenes with Chris, Dana and another girl (or Chris, Andrea + someone), you join them, and have a threesome with them, I don't think that is cheating, ntr or cucking. Maybe you would want to take Maria from her husband, change her personality completely and just have her for yourself or something, but that would be way out of character, would require mind control or brainwashing and that would be cheap and wouldn't fit. And you also can evade Maria's swinger scenes completely, anyway, if I'm not wrong. And in Intimate Relations, you can choose whether the wife cheats or not.


So, tl:dr - Ptolemy is not a liar when he says that scenes when your girlfriend fucks another dude, are optional (and those are only with Dana, other girls you can have as girlfriends don't have any of those). Maria is not your woman in the first place, so she is not taken from you. And I know that you are "not angry, but passionate", but come on, dude, take it easy, ok? Even if it wasn't to your liking, it's just a game, a fap material, not your real girlfriend. :)

And I think that these types of conversations about NTR are getting really old and and ridiculous and are totaly unnecesssary, even though this is the first one I participate in. I just don't want people, in this case Ptolemy, to be misrepresented. Also, people should just look up the terms on the internet as the guy above said.
 
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Synnerai

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This thread has nothing to do with Dreaming of Dana, if you want to discuss that game go to the proper thread.
That's true, I know, but I was defending the author of this game and in order to do so, and prove Poly is misrepresenting him and how he's doing it, I had to talk about it too, so it was kind of a necessary evil. But you know it was a response to what Poly said, so I think you understand. :D I mentioned IR too, though, hehe. :D
 
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You make an excellent point. I have seen a few porns. In Russian porn lately, there's a lot of "sell your girlfriend" going on. Rather than calling it cuck, where the boyfriend watches his girl get used by another man, they prefer to look at this as a business transaction. Perhaps that is what leads to the confusion about what cuckery is or is not. Cultural difference of opinion. But this discussion isn't about cuck. It's about -/removed/- saying "I make everything optional" which is a fucking lie.

None of the pics you posted have anything to do with any cuck scene. And the second one is even optional.

But I won't allow you to use a liar's negotiation on me.

Your words:
As Quarterback for Team Eric, it was kinda funny reading this fumble. I agree with you that religious extremist gamers who demand that their virgins be untouched, should be on the terrorist no-fly list.

I simply called you out, on your lie, where you said that you make everything optional.
DoD is a click turn the page, visual novel with no choice but quit-game for most of the story.
Read the walkthrough
you must do this to do this, nothing is avoidable
forced NTR
forced Interracial, MF MMF FFM
forced cuck
Nothing against NTR/cuck games. But don't lie about it. Cuck fans want it, others don't. Don't say optional, when it's forced.
Forced NTR, forced cuck.

Now, don't try to shift the goal posts. "Is every scene in the game optional?", " Are there any other men, fucking any other women?"

That's called the liar's negotiation.
 
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and chill out. noone cares what the Definition of "chuckhold" is, you can call it whatever you want lol. if you guys like to watch other men fuck women infront of you while you watch, thats cool bro.
As a matter of fact, I do enjoy watching other men fuck other women. And so do you BTW. Or do you only watch girl on girl porn.
 
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Pretty sure all of those scenes are completely avoidable. I know for sure that the final one can be stopped from happening and even then, that woman is your boss, not your lover, not your girlfriend, no, she's nothing but a single whorish woman. How is that "cucking" in any way?
She's not your boss, she's an accountant looking at your fathers companies books, that's all.


You do know that's her husband she's fucking in that scene, you are just watching.

She's in an open relationship with the MC fucking her on the side.

You're making yourself look a bit silly here.
 
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This normally calm mutt is getting VERY irritated at this off-topic "cuckshit" rambling. I've had more than a few "WTF moments" while reading Polywog's posts. And at verzauberung for liking those rambling wanna-be troll WTF posts.
TCMS and Ptolemy are both right. Stay on topic, listen to the mods, and stop trolling!
I don't have a problem deleting off-topic posts or banning trolls.
I'm SERIOUS.
 

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@Ptolemy pretty sure polywog was just trying to get a rise out of you.
That being said I am excited to see what this new project brings, Dreaming of Dana is one of the best games out there Now let's all get back to making this thread great again like Mutt said.
 

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@Ptolemy pretty sure polywog was just trying to get a rise out of you.
That being said I am excited to see what this new project brings, Dreaming of Dana is one of the best games out there Now let's all get back to making this thread great again like Mutt said.
Thank you.

But like I've said, updates to this will be irregular. At least until Dreaming of Dana is finished.
Every 4 or 5 updates, I need a break from Dana & Co. And to still be doing something and not just waste that time, I work on this.
 

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Thank you.

But like I've said, updates to this will be irregular. At least until Dreaming of Dana is finished.
Every 4 or 5 updates, I need a break from Dana & Co. And to still be doing something and not just waste that time, I work on this.
You have done an amazing job with Dana, I really can't imagine how far until "finished" it can be.
 

Synnerai

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I think Dana is getting to the finish soon (but soon might be a relative term for this type of project), because plenty of plots in this game are finished already or nearing finish and the storyline is getting to it's final goal... or beard, hehe. I am curious about what options do we get in Intimate Relations when Dana is finished. I like that both games are situated in a same universe, the Chris and Dana cameo in IR was great. It would be cool if the games were connected even more. :D We shall see. :D I like both of them, especially that the characters have cool personalities and I think they are believable and deep, especially compared to other games. I like that the characters joke around and display a genuine sense of humor. :)
 

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you can cuck yourself if you want but that is by your choice, i wonder if we can turn the wife into a cuckquean in this game??
I agree, but i very doubt Christine gonna accept anything like that. She is in control around house much more than Andrew honestly. It's seem much easier for him being classic weak cuck. At least now. But later, if Christine will be much more timid, and Andrew much more bold... who knows. Technically, if Andrew would have sexual relationship with Kelly, it's gonna be netorare towards Christine. If she considered one of the protagonists anyway.
 
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