Okyturi

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Remember playing this game like 3 years ago, decided to finish it. Without proper guide/mod it was kinda hard to find routes, am I missing some?
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Overall good game but seems kinda very rushed ending :(
 

starshooter

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After play, the game is nice, but not good enough.
I feel the game is not completed. When Dr Denise is pregnant, the ending is her giving a baby. However, when Christine is pregnant, no giving baby ending.
And it is sad that when Andrew fucks Christine (timid) and Denise, Andrew only gets Denise pregnant at the end.
Sorry for my poor english.
 

Alfius

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After play, the game is nice, but not good enough.
I feel the game is not completed. When Dr Denise is pregnant, the ending is her giving a baby. However, when Christine is pregnant, no giving baby ending.
And it is sad that when Andrew fucks Christine (timid) and Denise, Andrew only gets Denise pregnant at the end.
Sorry for my poor english.
That's always been a critique of Ptolemy for me. In general, he writes good characters and generate interesting stories, but his endings are never satisfactory. I'm not sure why? The are not terrible, but just meh... compared to the story leading up to it.

It looks like that with a lot of projects where he is involved in. I mean Haley's story is a prime example (Co-written with Viit). It started out as one of my top 3 games and then just fizzled out. Alexandria the same and this one the same. Name dropping, but Daniel K is the same for me... Great games, but meh ending.
 

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That's always been a critique of Ptolemy for me. In general, he writes good characters and generate interesting stories, but his endings are never satisfactory. I'm not sure why? The are not terrible, but just meh... compared to the story leading up to it.

It looks like that with a lot of projects where he is involved in. I mean Haley's story is a prime example (Co-written with Viit). It started out as one of my top 3 games and then just fizzled out. Alexandria the same and this one the same. Name dropping, but Daniel K is the same for me... Great games, but meh ending.
I do agree apart from Dana. I didn't mind the endings for that game.

That being said I have the same problem with a lot of these adult VN's. I enjoy their stories and characters but far too many have shit endings.
 
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Penfold Mole

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Endings are always the hardest to write, even someone with as little experience as me (school essays >30 years ago :HideThePain: ) knows it.
From what I've heard, some authors actually start writing a story by creating the ending first for this particular reason, so they wouldn't fail at it later on. I think it might be a neat trick to "get over the tail of the beast", although I can't really imagine doing that without having any idea about the story at all. I guess you still might need some basic idea and scenario to work out before trying it.
 
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I think it's lack of climax (pardon the pun). Since the writers write it primarily as an erotic novel, the climax from a player's perspective is basically when you get to have sex with the primary female love interest. (Conquest = climax) However, that is way to long for the player to wait so that normally happens around the halfway or just past halfway line.

Since there is no other primary goal or story, other than the romance, there is no real substance, unwinding in the end.
You either need to have a primary story, that stands on it's own feet in conjunction with the love story, or your love story needs to climax at the end.

An example of a relatively "good" ending IMO was Fetish Locator. The climax was the reveal of who was behind everything and then the game jump to a satisfying conclusion with whoever you chose to spend it with. "Yes I know FL was not the crowning achievement in AVNs but the endings were pretty satisfactory."

Take a game like Witcher... The endings were ok, but the fact that it occurred after a massive climax made it satisfactory. I think in Ptolemy's games, the writing is good, but then there is no real climax and something to conclude. It just stops a slice of life.
 
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Samsul Hidayat

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Daniel K is the same for me... Great games, but meh ending.
Daniel K endings are meh because they only account for who you end up with. E.g. if you choose Girl A, the ending only features Girl A without 'recognizing' all of your journey to get her with Girl B, C, etc.

That's why GGGB, Long Live the Princess, Babysitter, etc have pretty satisfying endings. They acknowledge almost everything you have gone through, not just the girl you choose.
 

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Daniel K endings are meh because they only account for who you end up with. E.g. if you choose Girl A, the ending only features Girl A without 'recognizing' all of your journey to get her with Girl B, C, etc.

That's why GGGB, Long Live the Princess, Babysitter, etc have pretty satisfying endings. They acknowledge almost everything you have gone through, not just the girl you choose.
I agree with you about those games. I'm really satisfied with how they handled the ending. I played IR just for the story until 00:55 AM, and now I feel uneasy because of how the game ended. Came back to this and feeling lost
 

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Having a hell of a time.....following the walkthrough, but I can't get Christine to cheat with Matteo.
 

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Some reason, I can't get Christine to cheat on Andrew. Choice 9 in the walk through, never comes up, so I can't progress with her. Her bold is equal or greater than 2 and no choice appears.
pick bold for her picks in the beginning both times. i dont think she has to show she knows him at the clothes store or not to trigger #9 but did for me. choice 9 only pops up if her bold stat is a 2.
 

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Remember playing this game like 3 years ago, decided to finish it. Without proper guide/mod it was kinda hard to find routes, am I missing some?
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Overall good game but seems kinda very rushed ending :(
I didn't get any of this endings,instead no matter if Andrew agrees with Christine and knock her up or not,Kelly get on a vacation and at some point Christine makes some kind of plan to get rid of her saying "to hell with her" and calls her pretending to be nice and say that they miss her,then you can see Christine in the fitness talking with her friend and saying "we really need to hire a cleaner" obviously planning to kill Kelly that a moment later appears in the fitness too and they both go home where later Andrew comes back and hugging his daughter while she is saying that she is going to stay with them cause someone need to watch at them and with that the game ends and there is a message saying "more in future updates" but it's seems that there are no more updates at this one. Does that mean he is planning to make a sequel to that one where we will see what will happen after she comes back home and that Christine is planning to get rid of Kelly? :unsure:
 
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