VN Ren'Py Isabella - Chasing Shadows [Ch. 4.3] [badtimetales]

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Joshy92

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Well, other's don't like it...

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It's their loss if they don't like this awesome game.
I remember having tears in my eyes after the first few minutes of playing.
Thats when I knew this game was special and would be a mature story driven AVN.

And that's the kind of game I like best.
 

Joshy92

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Even though I do love mature story driven games.
I certainly wouldn't complain if Alex & Isa were to make out in fact, I would encourage it.

Don't forget to use your tongues ladies.
 
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badtimetales

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I love it whatever is happening. Btw, I feel like Alex's face is more expressive than other characters. Is it part of easy to show emotions? :unsure:
Her face makes it more easy compared to others, but it's mainly practice.
After posing a few thousand expressions you know what to do to give her the right look you want to show.

The same expression on another character looks completely different, so it's learning how to pose for each character.
When you compare chapter one or two expressions to chapter four you can see how they got better (in my opinion).
 
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Joshy92

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I would love to marry Alex & Isabella everyday would be a dream.
I can imagine having a hard day's work but then it would all be worth it when I come home to my darling angels.
After I get home and cook us dinner we would sit down and talk for hours about our feeling and all that stuff.
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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I would love to marry Alex & Isabella everyday would be a dream.
I can imagine having a hard day's work but then it would all be worth it when I come home to my darling angels.
After I get home and cook us dinner we would sit down and talk for hours about our feeling and all that stuff.
Those two will have any man they hook up with jumping hoops and twisting around in circles at their wimp. It would be fun though ;)
 

FatGiant

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It's not story with my porn that I like, it's porn with my story.
If the story is good enough, I can truly dispense with the porn. If the story is really, really good, the porn can be insinuated and never shown and I'd be as happy as if it was shown. If the story is amazing, in depth, in scope, in well written, the porn isn't even needed or missed.

And even if this adult, even if this is visual, even if this is a novel, none of that means porn. Sex isn't porn. Sexual acts aren't porn. Sexual innuendos aren't porn. To me, there's really no porn in THIS story. There's depictions of sexual activities between consenting adults, that's just part of life, not something restricted to a pornographic setting.

Calling this porn says a LOT more about upbringings (where naked skin is taboo) than it says about this story.

I don't feel any obligation to follow hypocritical religious concepts about what is "proper" and what is "perversion" from people that did those things in secret while preaching against them in public.

I reserve the term pornography for acts that go out of the boundaries of consent, all the rest, is just sex, and sex is awesome.

Peace :)
 

Jarulf

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If the story is good enough, I can truly dispense with the porn.

I reserve the term pornography for acts that go out of the boundaries of consent, all the rest, is just sex, and sex is awesome.
Completely agree, I was just trying to be a little catchy in my phrasing. ;)

I've played an otherwise fine game on more than one occasion where I've been annoyed by a sex scene, and just clicked through it so I could get to the more interesting bits.
Often it felt like the dev had put it in there to keep the players happy and it lacked emotion, or was too early in a relationship. (or just ordinary lack of skill on the part of the dev)
Sex without story, without the characters being emotionally involved, can often be a bit boring. This depends on a lot, obviously, but for me it's often true.
Happily, we don't have that problem with this game.
 

Dessolos

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If the story is good enough, I can truly dispense with the porn. If the story is really, really good, the porn can be insinuated and never shown and I'd be as happy as if it was shown. If the story is amazing, in depth, in scope, in well written, the porn isn't even needed or missed.

And even if this adult, even if this is visual, even if this is a novel, none of that means porn. Sex isn't porn. Sexual acts aren't porn. Sexual innuendos aren't porn. To me, there's really no porn in THIS story. There's depictions of sexual activities between consenting adults, that's just part of life, not something restricted to a pornographic setting.

Calling this porn says a LOT more about upbringings (where naked skin is taboo) than it says about this story.

I don't feel any obligation to follow hypocritical religious concepts about what is "proper" and what is "perversion" from people that did those things in secret while preaching against them in public.

I reserve the term pornography for acts that go out of the boundaries of consent, all the rest, is just sex, and sex is awesome.

Peace :)
yeah I personally only consider a game a porn game if alot of the scenes feel forced to show lewds or if alot of the scenes feel like something you would scene in a porn. I've played some games where I thought there was to many lewd scenes and I was getting bored with the game even tho everything else I liked about it. I'm glad that isnt a problem here. Honestly the way this game handles the lewd scenes in the story is better than most ive played. It feels like a perfect balance of story progression , character development , fun scenes and a few lewds where it makes sense why they happen when they do and never feel forced. But also im a rare one where I dont play for lewd scenes they are just something nice to look at but yeah this is one of those games you dont really need them to get into the game but appreciate them.
 

FatGiant

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Completely agree, I was just trying to be a little catchy in my phrasing. ;)

I've played an otherwise fine game on more than one occasion where I've been annoyed by a sex scene, and just clicked through it so I could get to the more interesting bits.
Often it felt like the dev had put it in there to keep the players happy and it lacked emotion, or was too early in a relationship. (or just ordinary lack of skill on the part of the dev)
Sex without story, without the characters being emotionally involved, can often be a bit boring. This depends on a lot, obviously, but for me it's often true.
Happily, we don't have that problem with this game.
I do that on blowjobs. I like to receive them, hate to watch them. To the point that they turn me off. Cunnilingus however... love to do it, love to watch it, when a Dev does it right, I rollback and watch it again, a few times.

I've clicked and clicked out of BJ's. Never once have I stopped or interrupted a good cunny. To be brutally honest, if it is a Lesbian scene it's 100x better, and if it is Lescest, well the sky is not the limit.

All of us have our triggers. I can accept emotionless sex, it's like cheeseless pizza, not what I would ask for, but it's still Pizza. What I simply can't stand is violence of any kind during the sexual act, or, the sexual act as violence. Even if desired by the "victim", it does things to me, things that I can't and will never associate with pleasure. What people call "rough" sex, is too close to the border for my comfort. Still acceptable but too easy to be overdone...

BTT, does this well though. The sex is well done, has its moments, carries the story, without being the story. This is not the rule on this site, it is the exception.

Peace :)
 

Kazanovaromeo

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Completely agree, I was just trying to be a little catchy in my phrasing. ;)

I've played an otherwise fine game on more than one occasion where I've been annoyed by a sex scene, and just clicked through it so I could get to the more interesting bits.
Often it felt like the dev had put it in there to keep the players happy and it lacked emotion, or was too early in a relationship. (or just ordinary lack of skill on the part of the dev)
Sex without story, without the characters being emotionally involved, can often be a bit boring. This depends on a lot, obviously, but for me it's often true.
Happily, we don't have that problem with this game.
try to seal my girls every where , now stealing my thoughts and ideas , Back off OR ELSE ? :devilish::p
 

Jarulf

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Idk, it feels like there is just a sense of maturity to the storytelling here, that you only find in the best games. I'm just playing the throuple path, so can't comment on the others.
While Alex has been in love with the MC for a while, and he needed a little while to realise he loved her too, I'm really enjoying how Isa is slowly being brought in to the relationship small bit by small bit. It's probably a difficult balancing act, the pacing of that, but for me it works very well.
 

wookie ookie

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If the story is good enough, I can truly dispense with the porn. If the story is really, really good, the porn can be insinuated and never shown and I'd be as happy as if it was shown. If the story is amazing, in depth, in scope, in well written, the porn isn't even needed or missed.

And even if this adult, even if this is visual, even if this is a novel, none of that means porn. Sex isn't porn. Sexual acts aren't porn. Sexual innuendos aren't porn. To me, there's really no porn in THIS story. There's depictions of sexual activities between consenting adults, that's just part of life, not something restricted to a pornographic setting.

Calling this porn says a LOT more about upbringings (where naked skin is taboo) than it says about this story.

I don't feel any obligation to follow hypocritical religious concepts about what is "proper" and what is "perversion" from people that did those things in secret while preaching against them in public.

I reserve the term pornography for acts that go out of the boundaries of consent, all the rest, is just sex, and sex is awesome.

Peace :)
Nailed it couldn't have been said better :love:
 
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