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Well you could always say that these outfits are stylized anime outfits, which isn't even far away from the truth.
Italian website selling porn games and claiming to own the copyright for them
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I do have Honey Select and it is not me that you have to convince. I do care either way, but I am not Patreon.
omg i'm gonna miss ashley for that, but in future will you keep using renp'y or you gonna change your system like VN maker by enterbrain since he easyly rummage your contents and change it to their own if i were you i will change the system to better one, the one that can support better encryption and protection against hijackers
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I would have agreed with you until giochi deliberately falsely report Runey, if you know anything about Patreon then you would know that Patreon had engaged in bans of creators in the past for no-seemingly legal reason other than an arbitrary virtue signaling guidelines. But that's ok, site dictates their own rule even if the rules are retarded.
Also, no tech companies manually verify contents anymore, not Youtube, not Tumblr, not Kickstarter certainly not Patreon cus they don't pull the massive amount of money as others do. Still, Patreon has tens of thousands of creators that are active every day putting out new content, any sane San Francisco tech company would do what Mountain View or San Jose companies would do, give all that work to algorithms instead of hiring hundreds if not thousands of workers. I'm not sure if this is deliberate naivety or just naivety.
Patreon == Youtube? Based On what standards?
This is just not true. Youtube is using a mix of things, not just AI. Patreon is not comparable in size to likes of youtube and facebook, neither by amount of content nor number of creators nor number of regular users and certainly not by number of reports it gets. I don't agree with this mentality of "guilty unless proven otherwise" or "guilty by association", seems some of you are trying to fight this injustice that started happening to some yet you align yourself with the same type of mentality that caused the injustice in the first place. I've just checked Patreons TOS, seems they say they review reports manually. So are they directly lying? Considering all variables at hand I think that is unlikely and I think they do in fact review content manually.
If Runey has a disclaimer in his game that all characters are 18+ and context of the game supports this and that is how they actually look like regardless of type of school uniform, then I think he has nothing to worry about. I can agree they you can never know with site that has "Trust and Safety Team", I guess we will see what happens. If Runey does get banned for this or gets forced to change the content, it would definitely set a new precedent for Patreon and not a good one, still I believe Runey will not get banned.
He will not get banned, at most he will be forced to remove Ashley which is a pretty big hit considering how much work he put.
- Sep 27, 2018
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@Runey
I know @Boomatica have been in a similar situation your are with Ashley with one of his character of RIC with Patreons, maybe you can ask him ?
I know @Boomatica have been in a similar situation your are with Ashley with one of his character of RIC with Patreons, maybe you can ask him ?
You're right, I will likely not get banned. They specifically told me to "remove this type content from your page" and "Content glorifying sexual violence cannot be funded by or linked to or from your creator page in any way." (Not sure if this part is the automated part, because there's also no sexual violence).
However, I was told by a couple of people that someone had attempted to hold their ground against Patreon. After which, they got banned entirely. So any attempt I make at reasoning with them and trying to get them to understand what's happening could lead me to getting me banned all together.
What Cybuster was talking about is that there are a lot of people complaining on Youtube that Patreon are essentially dictators. Sargon of Akkad being the main example as of recently. On Patreon's ToS they say something along the lines of "If you break any of our rules on our website, you could get banned" (Assuming you know what Sargon did...) But he did not break Patreon's ToS on Patreon, he broke Patreon's ToS on Youtube. This would basically be if you were 16 years old, born in the US, then took a vacation to Germany, drank beer, and once you set foot on American soil, the police would send you directly to jail for breaking an American law in Germany.
This happens with too many companies... Take Roblox for instance: Pewdiepie is banned there because he is unwanted.
Reality is that ToS is more of a guideline to grant you more chances to stay in that platform but if they decide they do not want you there, you could even be a saint with kitten posters but they would ban you regardless with no questions asked.
Reality is that ToS is more of a guideline to grant you more chances to stay in that platform but if they decide they do not want you there, you could even be a saint with kitten posters but they would ban you regardless with no questions asked.
YouTuber Law did a pretty good vulgarization of that subject. And the case of the ban of Sargon.
I've been thinking about it recently, and I think Patreon takes too little of our money.
Odd statement to make, especially now, so let me explain.
Over the past 5 ish years, Patreon has taken over 100m in loans from investors (not sure why they would need that much...), however, Patreon only makes $25m a year as of 2018. Considering they're a massive silicon valley company, that's extremely low.
Patreon is very generous with it's creators, only taking 5% for themselves (and a 5% fee for managing all the payments, but they only see that first 5%).
If they took 10%, instead of 5%, they'd likely be earning 50m a year. Not only would they be able to hire more customer support agents (nearly 4 days in with no response), EVERYONE on their website would suddenly become way more valuable to them.
Meaning, if all of us creators payed Patreon 10%, they would take a much bigger loss in just banning people. They would want to get everything sorted out, and even not want to ban us at that point. They would hire more support agents, and make us even happier. And they would get out of this massive pile of debt they own.
Low taxes are great for the people, but if the leaders can't support the people on such low taxes, the taxes need to go up to benefit everyone.
I just think PayPal got Patreon by the balls and Patreon rolled with it at the beginning because they thought it wasn't a big deal since they were agreeing on that.
But didn't enforced that policy from the get go, PayPal noticed and now Patreon is forced to make examples to show good will and still be able to use PayPal.
But didn't enforced that policy from the get go, PayPal noticed and now Patreon is forced to make examples to show good will and still be able to use PayPal.
Considering the trend, political/speech issues are only going to get worse over the years. Best thing imo is to not chain yourself to patreon, chain yourself to your private website then if shit hits the fan you can easily change the method of support. So in your games advertise your private website, not patreon link. I mean you can pay for pornhub with paypal. Has anyone tried any other sites like podia.com ? Also wonder what is gonna happen with jordan peterson's promised website
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*Roblox is streamed for 1,5 hours on the world's biggest YouTube channel, receiving the largest amount of attention and free advertising it has gotten in years, if ever.*
Roblox: "Quick, how can we ruin this?"
*Roblox bans Pewdiepie, bans users for mentioning Pewdiepie's name for good measure*
Everybody:
You haven't thought this through all the way. Somebody making $20k a month and going from $1k in fees to $2k will be a lot more valuable to them than the average adult game dev going from $50 to $100 in fees. The $1k extra they make off the rich guy actually empowers them to care even less about you, because he just easily covered the loss from banning you.
Also please think about the fact that an insanely profitable company like Valve, who runs Steam, still has awful customer support to this very day. More money doesn't guarantee better service.
The porn problem isn't Patreon, it's the payment processors who are pushing it. Not sure Jordan Peterson's proposed alternative to Patreon would be any better, since he's a well known anti-porn advocate. What he's talking about is more about censoring political speech, not sexy times by proxy, which he is openly opposed to.
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I don't see the point in trying to get others not to resell your work. All the games on this site get uploaded to pay download sites like rapidgator and put on forums and stuff. All the manga in the world gets uploaded to sites with ads, it's just the way some people make money and there's no fighting against it. You're still making over 8k a month and haven't lost any money so don't understand why anyone would care.
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Pff hahahaha, this was a joke comment right?. So... you think a creator shouldn't care about people reselling his game.
There is a big difference between going against a downloading site and a reselling site, because in the reselling you can ask for all the profits they have obtained over the selling of the game and ask a compensation over it. Reselling is actually fighted because the people that do it are incurring a heavy crime against intellectual property. "Sharing" things online is a grey area and hard to attack, reselling is pure black.
That's why you can easily find "sharing sites" but not reselling sites.