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I don't know why but Marci is really doing it for me. I'd drop Nat for her given the chance. Or have an affair
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There's not *a lot* of planned futa content. There will be a couple minor characters who only get a couple scenes each, unless there ends up being sufficient demand for more, and one of the major characters will have some scenes in the sim where they temporarily transform. Any real world scenes would play out a bit like the scene at the beginning where the player gets to decide who is fucking who.
Using the opening scene is a great example. I went back and forth a little on whether or not to include a futa scene there since like I've mentioned before it's not going to be a major part of the game. But, I decided that we should just rip the bandaid off. I figured if someone is the type of player who gets turned off completely by options even if they don't have to take them then I might as well put some of that up front, so they don't feel misled.Just trying to maybe clarify on this using your analogy: I would say your "pizza dough" is your story and the "toppings" are the sexual content available. The dough is irreplaceable while toppings should optional which you seem to intend to do.
Now let's talk about a controversial topping: Pineapple.
There are those who like it, those who are indifferent to it and those you detest it.
There is nothing inherently wrong about having it on the menu but for those who detest it it will never be an "option" and some of the indifferent people might even try it once in a while. But it takes time to prep toppings and there is only so much time available.
Now there are a few pizza shops available and one can only eat so often so that those detesting pineapple might eat somewhere else as there's more of other toppings available. Also some toppings tend to "spill" as some sexual content without it reflecting in the character(s) open to it would be very weird.
Lets take the scene with the sexbot as an example. There are 4 variations of that scene.
1. No sexual content (Dough only)
2. Sex with the Bot (Topping 1)
3. Futa Threesome 1 (Topping 2)
4. Futa Threesome 2 (Topping 2)
Those took work and all participating characters had to be open to the outcomes it would have been weird if the futa character would have been disgusted by the sexbot and then participated in the threesome. Now someone not into Futa might feel like "too much" work was put into content that they will never want and move on. (Or at least are less likely to support)
I personally think this is an example for a good design for this kind of decission as it gives full agency to the player. If none of the sexual option are to the players taste he has the option for nothing sexual to happen.
As long as this is the way going forward I am okay with not all content being to my taste, if the "spilling" of toppings I might not like is not to egregious. Going back to the analogy: Say I don't like green pepper and I don't like pineapple. Now I get asked if I want green pepper on my pizza and I decline I don't want automatically be served with pineapple just because I said no to green pepper.
I hope these discussions here aren't discouraging as I like you game so far.
Best of Luck
I can't promise zero spillage of toppings since I can't account for everyone's personal tastes but I'm going to do my best to make sure the different outcomes of your choices are pretty obvious to the player.
And to sort of clear something up based on a few scattered comments I'm seeing throughout, there's not going to be much romance in this game. I'm going to try my best to make it so the player can go through the game and be almost entirely faithful to his girlfriend. We can use the term love interest to describe all the different women the MC will be able to regularly have sex with, the word love might be a bit of an exaggeration if you're expecting handholding or watching sunsets or lovingly gazing into a girl's eyes while you both profess your devotion to one another you're going to be disappointed
If you're expecting to see weird, depraved sex acts, I got you covered.
There is a lot of interest in futa on male content. I hope we will see futa on male in the following scenes and we will become addicted to this game.
I would like to throw my hat in and support futa on male scenes. If we have the femdom tag, if we already have a futa scene and if we already have the mc making choices about scenes, futa on male is not at all a deviation from the norm of the game. Also, if you make it optional (and even labeled like in the beginning) no one can complain.
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I'll consider it. I've mentioned before that I'm leaving wiggle room to add content to meet demand, so if anyone else is interested in seeing the MC take some girlcock, let me know. My only reservation is that the further I go away from stuff I personally find appealing, the harder it is for me to write. I'm not personally into futa stuff but I can sort of manage scenes where they fuck women or the MC fucks them. I don't know what makes a sexy scene involving a man getting penetrated though so I'm not sure if I can satisfy people who are looking for that.
Well I hadn't even finished typing my initial response before someone else voiced their support. I guess I'll start brainstorming some scenes. No promises yet.
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I mean, yeah, I would love some futa on male, but only if you feel is correct for the game or if you feel like doing it. No point in forcing yourself to do something you don't enjoy doing
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Also, DigiDec since this is labeled with a harem tag, and you said there won't be much romance in this game, but hopefully you can change that. And if the Mc decides to stay with his girlfriend Natalie it can be turned more romantic at some points so they can keep their love going and all by them having dates and keeping an active sex life that try new things like sex in public to spice things up or she lets him take her out for pet play stuff where she has to wear revealing bondage stuff or clothing leading to them having sex in public at a spot no one is at but there is a chance of someone seeing and that could turn them on more. And if you plan on making the family the same way where the Mc can pursue them romantically as it makes sense since the game has the harem tag, you can have the options added like most games have where you have the Mc trying to get the harem together by finding ways for it to work without anyone being mad/jealous etc. And in the end it works out where the Mc can date other girls just fine. Sure at first there will be maybe a mad/jealous girl, but it can be worked out probably by good ol Mc, or she comes around on her own after a few days of thinking. The same goes for any other girl that might be added unless a girl is just handed to him by lets say Ness as a gift for being a good employee, and she is already loyal to the Mc at that point because she has to be maybe unless we get the option to treat her good or bad or give her a bit more freedom away from being a slave type, etc. And on the subject about futa on male stuff, my take is like you say Digi your not into the futa stuff personally so you don't need to do it as it's also not my thing though the opening thing you did fine with since the character was a sex bot we the player will never see again most likely unless it's something we do see again. But as a comment type situation where Mc is walking into a bar or club and sees the bot doing something and just says oh that's the bot me and Sin had to do a job to get it was fun and that's the end of it due to him not having feelings for it. And if we see Sin-d again it's just for job stuff and if they have sex she won't be doing any penetrating of the Mc, he penetrates her, and she sucks him off type stuff, and she won't touch any of the Mcs girls that he is with or ones you have in the works to for him to go for. Besides, maybe if it's like the sex bot stuff they can have their fun with if chosen by the player.
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I'll let the dev learn the hard way that you don't mix harem and ntr game going on ignore now good luck dev
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You will be able to stay with Nat and fuck every other girl in the game if you like. I have no plans to write a branch that involves Nat leaving you. Some of the other girls interactions with the MC might lean closer to a traditional romantic relationship but ultimately outside of Nat all of the relationships will be built around sex. It's not going to be a dating sim. You can and probably will fuck your way through all the girls. Some of them might end up moving in with you. Some of them might end up being kept as pets. But the game isn't going to be sweet and romantic. In the words of the great American poets Snoop Dogg and Mob Deep, we don't love them hoes.
Not an NTR game. And if your intention is to ignore, why even comment?
So guys, look I've gone over it a few times before but just for future reference here are this site's definition of NTR, and harem since apparently that's up for debate too.
- Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
- Harem [1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously.]
So, not an NTR game. None of the sexual content involving characters other than the MC will be designed to cause jealousy and while I cannot account for each player's reaction or attachment to every single fictional lady in this game, I do not believe any reasonable person would feel jealous in the situations I have planned.
Interestingly the Harem tag doesn't even specify that it has to be the MC with 3 or more partners but don't worry the MC is the one who's going to be doing most of the fucking in this game. But, more relevant to our current discussion, the harem tag doesn't say anything about romantic love. You will have also noticed I have not tagged this game as Romance.
I'm not ragging on any other specific game but I for one am a little bored of corruption-themed games where the girls are turned into uber sluts but also loving girlfriends. In a lot of those games, the MC actively and intentionally will use some sort of mind control type effect on women causing them to go from being sexually uninterested in the MC to uncontrollably desiring the MC. Then suddenly the MC wants to go on candlelit dinner dates with the girl. It's all fantasy and its all fiction and most of it isn't designed to be thought about too much but, guys, come on. Be real. Taking advantage of some kind of magic/sci-fi shenanigans to stick your dick in your family isn't exactly the basis of a fucking love story.
It's porn. Hopefully, it's going to be sexy and hopefully, the story will be interesting but it's not going to model real life romantic relationships.
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..why even try and do it.....if u don't like it tho?
...u know....u don't need to please everyone askin for things.....
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I do hope you're just doing this as hobby, cause at the rate this game is going your audience is just gonna be in the minority
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Yeah there's no way I'd be able to or even try to make it a major focus point. But I'm not opposed to stepping out of my comfort zone for a scene or two. I have some limits on what content I'd be willing to consider and I'm not going to add anything that would derail the main direction of the game but sort of like the scene at the very beginning there will be some room for one-off throwaway sex scenes.
I mean probably. There are better writers, better artists, and better coders making games right now. And the themes, story, and sexual content in this game probably won't be for everyone. I'm completely willing to engage in good-faith conversations about the game and I'm very open to feedback. But people showing up to claim the game will be NTR, when it won't, or that it won't be a harem, when it will be, aren't really adding anything to the conversation. And look, I've posted a lot on this thread and some of my comments are pretty long so I don't really expect everyone who comments to have read through every one of them but I put a disclaimer in the dev notes. It's hard to keep rehashing the same thing when everyone seems to be using a different definition for these terms. When the content actually gets into the game and everyone wants to break out the pitchforks and torches I'll take it like a man but let's all unclench a little and maybe not work ourselves up over hypotheticals.
The principal problem is that this game (for you) its a harem game, but contains things that harem people don't like. Example: You say there is no ntr or sharing, but:
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All that are little things that are put off by people. The scenes itself are not the problem, the problem its that you have the harem tag. The harem tag by definition its having more than 3 girls basically, but in reality the people who look for an harem game are people who are looking for a game where they can insert themself in the MC and have the harem, Futa or femboys or any of that by some people are putoffx2, to me its not, the problem enters when the dick is used xd, and here it is used. Most game that have futa they make it avoidable, but the principal problem its that you are appealing a group of people who are not going to like a lot of aspects from your game, the problem and all the complaints come were you look for an harem game or a no ntr/sharing game and you got the feeling (that its more important) of that.
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Yeah, the tags aren't perfect.
If there was a sharing tag I'd add it. There's a swinging tag but I feel like that would be pretty misleading since there won't be wife-swap type stuff in the game.
And yeah, I could avoid a lot of the more extreme content to appeal to a broader audience. But there are a thousand* games like that already. I'm making something a little different. I'm going to be making it all optional, or at least all of the "real-world" sharing content would be optional with the option to skip the simulation stuff. It's okay if some people aren't interested, and I'm not mad about what anyone has posted so far, but if there's no shared definition for some of these terms we can't have a real conversation. I feel like I've been pretty open about what type of content will be included and why I've chosen the labels I've chosen. But if someone jumps into this thread to say that the Male Protagonist label is incorrect because in their head canon the MC is a trans woman I can't do anything about that.
*I made that number up
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So in short, you are saying the sharing will be fake futa content that will be in the virtual spaces the characters go into and outside of that in their real world it has no effect on how the characters think like the sister or girlfriend etc. won't go out of the virtual stuff and want to or think about being boned or have one involved in their sex life by some futa ever and only the only sharing they do or think about it stays like Mff male being Mc and F being 100% female or just FF stuff for lesbian content where both are 100% females with no other dicks involved unless the mc wants to get involved himself.
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So there will be a couple of characters in the real world who will be transwomen. They're going to be minor characters so they're probably only getting a scene or two each. Those scenes might include options where they penetrate a woman while being penetrated by the MC. Or maybe they get penetrated by a woman and the MC at the same time. Or maybe it's just one on one between them and the MC. You'll be able to skip this content, as in the MC can say no thanks and no sex will occur.
In one of the character's virtual simulation scenes, there will be some futa content that is much more fantasy/biologically impossible. You won't have to watch these scenes but it will be considered to have taken place regardless. If you go back and look at some of my earlier posts I shared a teaser image of one of the scenes planned. I'll spell it out in more depth behind a spoiler tag here though.
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As long as by you mean her fucking everything, you just mean other girls I guess and not the futas or other males or animals, then I guess what you say would be ok at least for me anyway though does sound kind of bad for her to have sex with the mom because he has to do something that like for example Ness says if he doesn't do a project for her, she won't pay him. Like we have a choice of joining the sister and mom for some sex and have Ness mad the next day about a missed project she told him to do, and he gets no money or work on what Ness told him to do and get the pay to manage to pay for the fancy house they have, but the player misses out on the action because the two girls couldn't wait.