the_sexiton

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Starting from day 16, please describe: her assigned rules, her aura on each day, and happens each day.

+5 to -2 in 4 days. It sounds like she became spoiled and may have lost some of her taming.

Losing taming can happen over time if her aura is stronger than the master's.

As for pride, rules like behave humility, pet and silence will be followed without forcing if her obedience is high enough. Deny toileting is also effective but may need to be forced. Forcing rules can cause despair, however, so is best done sparingly. Training her as a pet, pony or cow also lowers pride.

She can be trained in sex lessons (e.g. start with kissing, seduction) even while she is arrogant.

You can reach C+ rank with minimal training in a variety of sex skills, and reaching D- in a sex skill requires only one lesson.

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Ok I finally completed the tutorial with the normal difficulty character. It gets really touchy with how you reward and guilt pops up during erotic training but I powered through it. I had to go without the nutritionist option enabled and only enable it as needed to keep her from getting chubby but I managed to pull it off but even then, I spent nearly all of my cash. The slave goes through erratic swings of obedience and sometimes I can't see a rational explanation for it which makes it harder than it needs to be in my opinion.

I think I will continue on in sandbox mode on the normal difficulty setting and try to be more conscious of the characters I buy to train. If I run into a tough one every once in a while, I think I'll be better equipped to handle it now. Thanks for the help.
 
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the_sexiton

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One pointer I thought I would share as I didn't see it mentioned anywhere. I'm using Windows 11 and the game would crash a couple of times every time I sat down to play it. Setting it to compatibility mode for windows 7 fixed the problem. Another thing I noticed is Nvidia's 2.25 DLDSR causes a small amount of lag but it does fix aliasing problems on characters and sharpens backdrops to look higher resolution. It's worth trying out if you have the ability. You have to set your desktop resolution to the 2.25 DLDSR resolution and I would set the smoothness slider all the way down to zero for best image quality.
 
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Can this still be fixed or I need to start new slave?
She needs an adequate amount of charm which, from memory, you can check in the anatomy charm if you cast auspex

But the client now has a negative vision of her so you should wait 10 days or try with another one
 

tak51

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Hi, i would have a question about devotion.
Wiki says (even if it's not always accurate/up to date) that a rule your slave want to break decrease devotion per 5.
Is it only when rules are enforced or does devotion also decreases if the slave follows the rules willingly (rules aren't enforced) but is still resentful.

Like here:

rules.png

Here, rules aren't enforced but the slave isn't really happy with those. Does she loses devotion for each of these rules until she accept them or is it okay because these rules aren't enforced?
 
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Svenn85

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Hi, i would have a question about devotion.
Wiki says (even if it's not always accurate/up to date) that a rule your slave want to break decrease devotion per 5.
Is it only when rules are enforced or does devotion also decreases if the slave follows the rules willingly (rules aren't enforced) but is still ressentfull.

Like here:

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Here, rules aren't enforced but the slave isn't really happy with those. Does she loses devotion for each of these rules until she accept them or is it okay because these rules aren't enforced?
As far as I know, both from experience and from looking at the code, it just affects her mood.


if slave['humility_rule_broken'] = 0:
slave_rate['mood'] -= slave['ego'] + slave['pride'] - slave['moral']
if slave['ego'] + slave['pride'] - slave['moral'] > 0:
$slave['rules_explanations'] += ' But she is clearly too willful or proud to enjoy it.'

- First line states that if she did not break the rule, the next lines will apply.
- Second line states that her mood is affected by the level of her Nature (ego in code), her Pride (Pride works in reverse, so Green pride means 0) and her Devotion level (moral in code).
- Third line states that if her Nature+Pride-Devotion equal to more than 0, she will not enjoy it. Which is also a way of saying that if she does receive a mood debuff (from having too much Nature, being too proud and not devoted enough), the text will reflect it.
 

DoktorGuro

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She needs an adequate amount of charm which, from memory, you can check in the anatomy charm if you cast auspex

But the client now has a negative vision of her so you should wait 10 days or try with another one
Thanks for advice, I raised her charm but now she says that slave isn't trained well enough, it may be caused by trait "accustomed to pain" but by training xenophily I always get it. Is it possible to train xenophily without acquiring that trait by training slowly or am I screwed?
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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Thanks for advice, I raised her charm but now she says that slave isn't trained well enough, it may be caused by trait "accustomed to pain" but by training xenophily I always get it. Is it possible to train xenophily without acquiring that trait by training slowly or am I screwed?
The trait isn’t a problem. She doesn’t match the stated requirements. Check your objectives tab.
 
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This game has so much to like in terms of depth and slow character building. I like the way you can progress through the various districts and homes and all of the options you have to shake things up. My problem is I just can't figure it out. I thought if I had enough patience I would get it at some point but I finally gave up tonight. I think I spent 100 hours playing this and I still don't understand how to play it.

I've trained an assistant to S+, I know how to manipulate stats and keep my monthly costs down but every other slave I get, I just can't train them for some reason. Some of them will gain obedience if you treat them nicely. Others only when you beat them and some of them you just can't improve no matter what you do. In order to get a good stack of cash flowing you have to sell a few slaves around B+ level and do it in a timely manner which I have managed to do on a few playthroughs, but I always end up getting stuck with untrainable slaves and losing all my cash eventually every time. I'm not putting down the game though, I can totally see why people like it, but I just can't get it. I don't consider myself stupid but I'm clearly not smart enough to figure this one out and no amount of persistence or patience could change that for me.
your not the only one I started with 6000 now iam 3200 I Know I am Losing and I don't find a way to win I don't want to sell Slaves I want to have them As way of making money by making Strong one fight and Other Race and maybe a cow but I can't have 3 in the same time Because your own Character also need care I started with aristocrat now his got one lvl down same go for strength so how to do all that in the same time take care of the slaves and money and master with energy that only 4 stars
 

DoktorGuro

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your not the only one I started with 6000 now iam 3200 I Know I am Losing and I don't find a way to win I don't want to sell Slaves I want to have them As way of making money by making Strong one fight and Other Race and maybe a cow but I can't have 3 in the same time Because your own Character also need care I started with aristocrat now his got one lvl down same go for strength so how to do all that in the same time take care of the slaves and money and master with energy that only 4 stars
Yeah I know what you are talking about, It took me several restarts and many reloads to grasp what I should be doing yet I'm still learning. This game won't tell you so many things, it's fun to learn on your own but sometimes it's really frustrating too.
 
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ImperatorAugustusTertius

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your not the only one I started with 6000 now iam 3200 I Know I am Losing and I don't find a way to win I don't want to sell Slaves I want to have them As way of making money by making Strong one fight and Other Race and maybe a cow but I can't have 3 in the same time Because your own Character also need care I started with aristocrat now his got one lvl down same go for strength so how to do all that in the same time take care of the slaves and money and master with energy that only 4 stars
One of the rewards from the forum missions in White Town helps a lot with energy management. Until then, use assistant as trainer, school (with assistant supervising/escorting) or tutors to conserve master’s energy. You can also use drugs - kamra and faerie pollen. But use drugs sparingly to avoid losing a lot of strength/endurance over time.

If you live in the cheapest district (camira/outcasts) you get a free barn for your cow raising goal. If you live in serpentine district you can visit the tavern and medical center without spending energy.

Raising the master’s strength gives more energy too. Lots of ways to do that. Click the characteristics on the master’s screen for hints on how raise them.
 
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the_sexiton

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Ok, I'm stuck again. This character was fine for the first 15 days. I have most of her stats at B level other than nature which is at C level. I got her thorns down from "lots of thorns of rebellion" to just 1 thorn of rebellion. She has one pink spoiling that was there when I bought her, and I can't seem to get rid of it. Sending her to the garden for example, does nothing. At this point in the game, I cannot lower the last thorn of rebellion or gain any obedience no matter what I try. I'm providing the game save if anyone would be a gent and help me out with some tips.
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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Ok, I'm stuck again. This character was fine for the first 15 days. I have most of her stats at B level other than nature which is at C level. I got her thorns down from "lots of thorns of rebellion" to just 1 thorn of rebellion. She has one pink spoiling that was there when I bought her, and I can't seem to get rid of it. Sending her to the garden for example, does nothing. At this point in the game, I cannot lower the last thorn of rebellion or gain any obedience no matter what I try. I'm providing the game save if anyone would be a gent and help me out with some tips.
I’m on mobile now. Screenshot of her rules page?

Garden effect scales with the size of the problem. One spoil is a small problem. Take away some privileges (like bedroll), instill some fear or let her end the day unhappy… or simply ignore it, keep training her, and it will likely resolve in a few days if you aren’t doing anything to increase it.
 
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