QSP Jack-o-Nine-Tails [v2.3] [ImperatorAugustusTertius / qwertyu12359]

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

Thank gyus, best game ever!

What do you like about it?

 

[StillSlyMarbo]

Quick bug report, Isabella doesn't have any text displayed for the relaxed vaginal event. It'll show if she cums ie: "your slave cums violently, it's a good thing you restricted orgasms". but nothing else displays during the scenes.

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

Quick bug report, Isabella doesn't have any text displayed for the relaxed vaginal event. It'll show if she cums ie: "your slave cums violently, it's a good thing you restricted orgasms". but nothing else displays during the scenes.

Updated with a fix for this issue. Thanks for the report.

 

[naTapanucbka]

where is mega?

 

[Yukihirou]

There is some small bugs, in the fight with the group in the slum, the cannibal attack is red type (double damage to block command), but his attack text indicate he uses a violet type attack which is false.
No matter how hard i tried, I can't spread rumour at White town at all. I can't do it next day as well.

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

There is some small bugs, in the fight with the group in the slum, the cannibal attack is red type (double damage to block command), but his attack text indicate he uses a violet type attack which is false.
No matter how hard i tried, I can't spread rumour at White town at all. I can't do it next day as well.

The forum rumours are capped at Recognised brand reputation and only succeed if your personality is one level higher than your brand reputation. Selling slaves (no cap), your slaves winning in the arena (B+ for normal wins, A+ for grand champion win), or joining the Taurus gentlemen’s club and spreading rumours there (no cap) can raise your reputation higher.

Thanks for the reports.

 

[Aklackadaka]

What energy rating is this? Flat 0? Why is it purple? She was feeble and I got her a spa + massage at the salon.

Edit: Turns out that it was 1.

 

[Aklackadaka]

I'm still not seeing how to win an absolute minimum playthrough. Here's my problem-solution list:​

• You need to get out of the slums, so you need a D+ slave with a specialization to sell to a resident.
• You need a massive amount of time to do this, so you need to be cash-positive.
• You can't train slaves quickly and profitably enough to pay off a debt.
• So you buy a $20 slave on the day of arena fights to have her win the first fight and then sell her to the butcher for an extra $20. So you could theoretically generate an infinite amount of money by doing this, but it's extremely slow.
• You could do guild contracts, but they won't raise your skills unless you train the slaves yourself and you can't.
• Slaves refusing to go to school costs them no energy, and the same goes for when they refuse to take your character's lessons (which they always will at first).
• You can drain their energy by making them spar in the arena.
• You have no way to get them to accept any lessons other than tutors.
• Tutors start to cost $10 per lesson as the skill gets closer to B+, so the costs become extremely high for your limited budget.
• You can't do anything other than verbal punishments since the slave will rebel and beat you.
• You can't beat the slaves since training combat higher than D- takes a huge investment and, even if you did that, you'd just be making your slave depressed and wounded.
• You inevitably wind up with a slave that has common skills but no obedience.
• Your only way of giving your slave a task to succeed in (and thereby earn reward) is to make the slave be tutored.
  
  So as far as I can tell, the best method would be to grind out a profit of ~$20 per decade until you have so much of a stockpile that you can afford the massive tutor investments necessary to fund the training of at least 1 D+ slave. I don't know if you need more since I've never been in this situation before. I hope that someone can point out something that solves even one of these bullet points.

 

[berzho]

Just downloaded this, I've read somewhere about image/animation packs. Are they included in the base game or do I need to download seperately? If so where? Thanks!

 

[30eruxa]

I'm still not seeing how to win an absolute minimum playthrough. Here's my problem-solution list:​

• You need to get out of the slums, so you need a D+ slave with a specialization to sell to a resident.
• You need a massive amount of time to do this, so you need to be cash-positive.
• You can't train slaves quickly and profitably enough to pay off a debt.
• So you buy a $20 slave on the day of arena fights to have her win the first fight and then sell her to the butcher for an extra $20. So you could theoretically generate an infinite amount of money by doing this, but it's extremely slow.
• You could do guild contracts, but they won't raise your skills unless you train the slaves yourself and you can't.
• Slaves refusing to go to school costs them no energy, and the same goes for when they refuse to take your character's lessons (which they always will at first).
• You can drain their energy by making them spar in the arena.
• You have no way to get them to accept any lessons other than tutors.
• Tutors start to cost $10 per lesson as the skill gets closer to B+, so the costs become extremely high for your limited budget.
• You can't do anything other than verbal punishments since the slave will rebel and beat you.
• You can't beat the slaves since training combat higher than D- takes a huge investment and, even if you did that, you'd just be making your slave depressed and wounded.
• You inevitably wind up with a slave that has common skills but no obedience.
• Your only way of giving your slave a task to succeed in (and thereby earn reward) is to make the slave be tutored.
  
  So as far as I can tell, the best method would be to grind out a profit of ~$20 per decade until you have so much of a stockpile that you can afford the massive tutor investments necessary to fund the training of at least 1 D+ slave. I don't know if you need more since I've never been in this situation before. I hope that someone can point out something that solves even one of these bullet points.

I barely manage to get it started but i had to save-scum a lot for a good guild contract who has low morale in combat(so I can beat them in combat when they rebel with my whip) and was decently easy to train. Used Isabella to train the slave completely, took out a loan when i was low on sparks. There are lot of points where i had to save-scum just to stop the slave from attempting suicide(cost like 50 spark to fix injuries). But I got her to D rank before she went insane. then I just train all her skills to the requirement and get some spark back. It is enough to pay off the loan, though you might have to do this maybe one or two more times to be loan free. Just sold my 4th slave and my teaching is still F rank

 

[Aklackadaka]

Just downloaded this, I've read somewhere about image/animation packs. Are they included in the base game or do I need to download seperately? If so where? Thanks!

If you downloaded 2.1 then they should be included. If you downloaded 2.2 then the images are included in the media link near the bottom of the OP. It's so you don't have to download the multiple gigabytes of images every time they update the code.

Just run the exe and see if everything is a white void. If not, then the media was installed properly.

 

[Aklackadaka]

I barely manage to get it started but i had to save-scum a lot for a good guild contract who has low morale in combat(so I can beat them in combat when they rebel with my whip) and was decently easy to train. Used Isabella to train the slave completely, took out a loan when i was low on sparks. There are lot of points where i had to save-scum just to stop the slave from attempting suicide(cost like 50 spark to fix injuries). But I got her to D rank before she went insane. then I just train all her skills to the requirement and get some spark back. It is enough to pay off the loan, though you might have to do this maybe one or two more times to be loan free. Just sold my 4th slave and my teaching is still F rank

But how did you get Isabella? I'm talking about a custom run where you start with nothing except the minimum of 200 sparks. Getting Isabella requires a house in the city which you can't get without faction reputation.

 

[Yukihirou]

But how did you get Isabella? I'm talking about a custom run where you start with nothing except the minimum of 200 sparks. Getting Isabella requires a house in the city which you can't get without faction reputation.

As long as you can make a total of 850 sparks, you can then get the biggest loan, afterward you will no longer worry about money for the rest of your playthrough.

 

[30eruxa]

But how did you get Isabella? I'm talking about a custom run where you start with nothing except the minimum of 200 sparks. Getting Isabella requires a house in the city which you can't get without faction reputation.

Ah my bad, I thought you were just talking about jonny basically

 

[drebin]

I'm still not seeing how to win an absolute minimum playthrough. Here's my problem-solution list:​

• You need to get out of the slums, so you need a D+ slave with a specialization to sell to a resident.
• You need a massive amount of time to do this, so you need to be cash-positive.
• You can't train slaves quickly and profitably enough to pay off a debt.
• So you buy a $20 slave on the day of arena fights to have her win the first fight and then sell her to the butcher for an extra $20. So you could theoretically generate an infinite amount of money by doing this, but it's extremely slow.
• You could do guild contracts, but they won't raise your skills unless you train the slaves yourself and you can't.
• Slaves refusing to go to school costs them no energy, and the same goes for when they refuse to take your character's lessons (which they always will at first).
• You can drain their energy by making them spar in the arena.
• You have no way to get them to accept any lessons other than tutors.
• Tutors start to cost $10 per lesson as the skill gets closer to B+, so the costs become extremely high for your limited budget.
• You can't do anything other than verbal punishments since the slave will rebel and beat you.
• You can't beat the slaves since training combat higher than D- takes a huge investment and, even if you did that, you'd just be making your slave depressed and wounded.
• You inevitably wind up with a slave that has common skills but no obedience.
• Your only way of giving your slave a task to succeed in (and thereby earn reward) is to make the slave be tutored.
  
  So as far as I can tell, the best method would be to grind out a profit of ~$20 per decade until you have so much of a stockpile that you can afford the massive tutor investments necessary to fund the training of at least 1 D+ slave. I don't know if you need more since I've never been in this situation before. I hope that someone can point out something that solves even one of these bullet points.

*Just for context for everyone else. We're talking zero to hero here. 200 sparks, no faction favor, no skills.*

I've been trying on and off in the past weeks and I have to agree with most of your points. Currently there's just too many things bottlenecking you, and in conjunction they just make it nearly impossible for you to get out of the slums.

You can actually find slaves that you can teach yourself, but that opens its own can of worms. High endurance without a backbone will almost always be willing to learn dancing, but no matter what you do their diligence is almost always -1. You can punish them all you want, even beat them 3 times in a row after they rebel, but they will still not take you seriously.

While we're on the topic of rebeling, it actually makes your life in the slums way worse than ever before. Even if you beat them, you barely gain anything from it, but it still eats up your stamina, which makes you either lose health if you did go to the hip to eat, or outright kills you if you didn't. This basically circles back to your health being limited to D- in the slums with bad food. From what I saw so far it's just not worth it to go to the hip to eat, you don't get enough of a bonus from C strength to make it worth the spark/stamina investment, since they won't do what you want anyway.

Back to the slave. So far, I only managed to rarely force out +1-+2s from normal lessons (not counting when a girl has a favorite activity), which only lasted a day or two, and because they simply aren't willing to try, their skills barely develop. In turn you can't grind your own skills either. I don't know the code, but it either takes way too much exp to get to D- in any of your skills or -1 diligence doesn't even give you skill exp. Even if mood is a bigger factor than before you can't keep them happy in the slums if you start with 200 sparks, especially if you try to punish them. So their mood almost always works against you.

Onto the arena. If you don't opt for buying a new slave for every arena run and you use your own spineless slaves, you might get that win money, but they also gain a level of pride/nature/temperament, which basically nulls any progress you had up to then. Most of my slaves simply refused anything they were willing to do before (at a -1 diligence of course) after they gained that level in pride.

All of this takes a very long time with barely any improvement, while you also need to stay afloat, which is made even harder by the clothing cost increase.
I really don't agree with the men's clothes cost increase. You need at least 2 of them to start out at the bare minimum, which since you can't really buy more locks you out of even trying to train half the slave's skills, and even with this disadvantage you pay 80 spark for them on top of the 40-50 you already spent on your slave. Loans are a no go since you can't repay them, and arena actively ruins your slaves willingness to cooperate.

Spoiling/Awerness is another issue. I get it that the slaver has no talking skills, but still nobody believing you anything you say is a bit much, and once they get a point of spoil, it takes too long to reduce it. While they have that point they refuse everything so it just becomes worse if you can't deal with it fast.

My best option so far was to buy a strong slave with high pride, put her in the freezer and have her fight in the arena, while I fiddle away with my spineless slave on other days. It's way too grindy and contrived.

TLDR:
Someone might be willing to savescum it out, but currently my stance is this, zero to hero without heavy savescumming and exploiting is simply not possible.

 

[drebin]

As long as you can make a total of 850 sparks, you can then get the biggest loan, afterward you will no longer worry about money for the rest of your playthrough.

You can't take a loan if you start with no skills, no faction and 200 sparks, you're actively screwing yourself over with it right now. You simply can't train slaves fast enough, and you wouldn't make 850 for a loooong time.

 

[Yukihirou]

You can't take a loan if you start with no skills, no faction and 200 sparks, you're actively screwing yourself over with it right now. You simply can't train slaves fast enough, and you wouldn't make 850 for a loooong time.

Actually, keep yourself afloat with the 20 sparks slave, keep buying them and selling them.
Make yourself rich with Arena money, 50 sparks every decade.
Keep at it till 850 sparks.
Save scumming make it faster, otherwise it just take around 15 decades in game.

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

What energy rating is this? Flat 0? Why is it purple? She was feeble and I got her a spa + massage at the salon.

Edit: Turns out that it was 1.

It's purple because she's exhausted. She becomes exhausted if her energy goes red or after she exerts herself with athletics, dance, martial arts, etc. several times (as her endurance increases, she can do more exercise per day).

When she's exhausted, high-impact activities make her lose endurance instead of gaining it. It's both a representation of over-exercise and a balance constraint on raising endurance too fast.

 

[drebin]

Actually, keep yourself afloat with the 20 sparks slave, keep buying them and selling them.
Make yourself rich with Arena money, 50 sparks every decade.
Keep at it till 850 sparks.
Save scumming make it faster, otherwise it just take around 15 decades in game.

So then what's even the point? You're basically saying to exploit the game until you get an almost normal start.

On another hand even if you get that loan, you still live in the slums and have 0 skills to train slaves.

 

[Celerarity]

TLDR:
Someone might be willing to savescum it out, but currently my stance is this, zero to hero without heavy savescumming and exploiting is simply not possible.

Well, to be fair, is it really so odd that a garbage-tier slaver with no skills, no reputation, no faction connections, and no starting capital is kind of screwed? Even Jonny - the game's hard mode - gives you faction connections, or he used to anyway. I remember being able to buy an apartment with him.

Living in the slums with no way out and shit prospects being a recipe for failure seems pretty in line with what we're told about Eternal Rome. It makes sense you'd have to resort to every tiny advantage you can get (making money slowly in the arena, pinching every penny) if you wanted even a chance for something greater.

Game's not supposed to be easy man, especially when you deliberately pick the hardest combination of factors imaginable beyond even what the hardest difficulty setting has to offer. That doesn't sound like a bug to me. If you don't want to scrape and struggle and grind just to get your way back up to a good starting position... just start with better standing. You have the options to customize every aspect of your game's difficulty. It being too hard is something you can easily just change for yourself.